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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 11 2024 19:52 GMT
#1541
Jokes aside, this really looks like Maru-Rogue GSL final, albeit with Maru playing much better after dying to roaches.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
February 11 2024 19:52 GMT
#1542
i believe in Maru
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 11 2024 19:52 GMT
#1543
On February 12 2024 04:51 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 04:46 Solio wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:43 Nasigil wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Maru has been the better player for this entire game, but it's just too big of a map advantage for Serral to overcome.


Maru got caught with like 10 supposedly "singlehandedly game ending" fungal but was still able to drag it all the way to the end. How does that make him a better player?


Because burrowed infestors fungals = bullshit

So much easier to get them than to catch them and defend against them, the fact that Maru was able to make the game close while playing on this difficult map and against this stupid unit clearly shows he is better, like every single engagement that serral won was because of that, without that it would not even be close

Build a raven?

Ravens are way to slow to play on a map that big. The only option is mass orbitals and constant scans, but even then they stayed hidden
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
yezzir88
Profile Joined January 2024
31 Posts
February 11 2024 19:53 GMT
#1544
On February 12 2024 04:51 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 04:46 Solio wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:43 Nasigil wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Maru has been the better player for this entire game, but it's just too big of a map advantage for Serral to overcome.


Maru got caught with like 10 supposedly "singlehandedly game ending" fungal but was still able to drag it all the way to the end. How does that make him a better player?


Because burrowed infestors fungals = bullshit

So much easier to get them than to catch them and defend against them, the fact that Maru was able to make the game close while playing on this difficult map and against this stupid unit clearly shows he is better, like every single engagement that serral won was because of that, without that it would not even be close

Build a raven?


A decent player like Serral would just fly in with a few corrupters and snipe it. Easy.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 11 2024 19:53 GMT
#1545
4-0?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 11 2024 19:53 GMT
#1546
On February 12 2024 04:51 Sent. wrote:
Non ZvZ Serral is untouchable

Yeah well, Serral said ZvT is his best match up. That should tell you enough!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
February 11 2024 19:54 GMT
#1547
On February 12 2024 04:52 Argonauta wrote:
i believe in Maru

We gotta pray
Go maru
WriterMaru
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1277 Posts
February 11 2024 19:54 GMT
#1548
On February 12 2024 04:52 Solio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 04:48 Balnazza wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:46 Solio wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:43 Nasigil wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Maru has been the better player for this entire game, but it's just too big of a map advantage for Serral to overcome.


Maru got caught with like 10 supposedly "singlehandedly game ending" fungal but was still able to drag it all the way to the end. How does that make him a better player?


Because burrowed infestors fungals = bullshit

So much easier to get them than to catch them and defend against them, the fact that Maru was able to make the game close while playing on this difficult map and against this stupid unit clearly shows he is better, like every single engagement that serral won was because of that, without that it would not even be close


Almost like burrowed infestors are Zergs only real option to catch Ghosts who otherwise completly outrun their army and kill it in the process?


No, other option = just fungal them normally and be the quicker player, normal interactions between spellcasters, thats how it should be


Yes, please work your slow-ass, short-ranged spellcasters into a ball of "spellcasters" with stupid amount of DPS that can cloak...
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 11 2024 19:55 GMT
#1549
On February 12 2024 04:52 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 04:51 Gescom wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:46 Solio wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:43 Nasigil wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Maru has been the better player for this entire game, but it's just too big of a map advantage for Serral to overcome.


Maru got caught with like 10 supposedly "singlehandedly game ending" fungal but was still able to drag it all the way to the end. How does that make him a better player?


Because burrowed infestors fungals = bullshit

So much easier to get them than to catch them and defend against them, the fact that Maru was able to make the game close while playing on this difficult map and against this stupid unit clearly shows he is better, like every single engagement that serral won was because of that, without that it would not even be close

Build a raven?

Ravens are way to slow to play on a map that big. The only option is mass orbitals and constant scans, but even then they stayed hidden


Not just that, but Maru's army is never moving in one large group, it's always moving in pieces. Ravens cost 150gas a piece, they build slowly, they move slowly, and they require a dedicated Starport to build.

It simply doesn't make sense to use them for detection when you are playing a mobile Bio style. A slower Mech style sure, but they just don't work with a Bio.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 11 2024 19:55 GMT
#1550
On February 12 2024 04:53 lolfail9001 wrote:
4-0?


IDK, I feel like we need a 45 minutes split map game before Maru get roach-rush again
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
February 11 2024 19:55 GMT
#1551
On February 12 2024 04:52 dysenterymd wrote:
Radhuset is bullshit, but Maru is the favorite against any other Zerg on the planet lol. The whining is ridiculous.

It’s unreal. You’d think there were zero Terran players in the top 8 or something at this point.
It appears I have been chosen.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12427 Posts
February 11 2024 19:55 GMT
#1552
On February 12 2024 04:54 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 04:52 Solio wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:48 Balnazza wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:46 Solio wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:43 Nasigil wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Maru has been the better player for this entire game, but it's just too big of a map advantage for Serral to overcome.


Maru got caught with like 10 supposedly "singlehandedly game ending" fungal but was still able to drag it all the way to the end. How does that make him a better player?


Because burrowed infestors fungals = bullshit

So much easier to get them than to catch them and defend against them, the fact that Maru was able to make the game close while playing on this difficult map and against this stupid unit clearly shows he is better, like every single engagement that serral won was because of that, without that it would not even be close


Almost like burrowed infestors are Zergs only real option to catch Ghosts who otherwise completly outrun their army and kill it in the process?


No, other option = just fungal them normally and be the quicker player, normal interactions between spellcasters, thats how it should be


Yes, please work your slow-ass, short-ranged spellcasters into a ball of "spellcasters" with stupid amount of DPS that can cloak...


It's good that you're not letting the easy victory of your race derail you away from what's important
No will to live, no wish to die
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 11 2024 19:55 GMT
#1553
On February 12 2024 04:52 dysenterymd wrote:
Radhuset is bullshit, but Maru is the favorite against any other Zerg on the planet lol. The whining is ridiculous.


Agreed. This and Maru not ready for early game aggression g3 when he's clearly made Serral sweat lategame prev game shows more of the same stubbornness that usually gets him.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
February 11 2024 19:55 GMT
#1554
On February 12 2024 04:51 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 04:46 Solio wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:43 Nasigil wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Maru has been the better player for this entire game, but it's just too big of a map advantage for Serral to overcome.


Maru got caught with like 10 supposedly "singlehandedly game ending" fungal but was still able to drag it all the way to the end. How does that make him a better player?


Because burrowed infestors fungals = bullshit

So much easier to get them than to catch them and defend against them, the fact that Maru was able to make the game close while playing on this difficult map and against this stupid unit clearly shows he is better, like every single engagement that serral won was because of that, without that it would not even be close

Build a raven?


it will just get killed/sniped, and it would be way too expensive to continuously produce them, you think maru and the other top terrans never thought of that LOL ?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 11 2024 19:56 GMT
#1555
On February 12 2024 04:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
Jokes aside, this really looks like Maru-Rogue GSL final, albeit with Maru playing much better after dying to roaches.

Serral is too smart, going for allins on the maps that aren't guaranteed wins for Zerg lategame. Few have as deep a bag as Serral or Rogue to play like that, those guys are untouchable in this series.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3510 Posts
February 11 2024 19:56 GMT
#1556
Proxy completely shut down. Getting spooky on the 4-0.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
youaremysin
Profile Joined August 2015
119 Posts
February 11 2024 19:56 GMT
#1557
that opening wasn't really good
yezzir88
Profile Joined January 2024
31 Posts
February 11 2024 19:57 GMT
#1558
On February 12 2024 04:55 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 04:52 dysenterymd wrote:
Radhuset is bullshit, but Maru is the favorite against any other Zerg on the planet lol. The whining is ridiculous.


Agreed. This and Maru not ready for early game aggression g3 when he's clearly made Serral sweat lategame prev game shows more of the same stubbornness that usually gets him.


One of the reasons he lost to Serral. Cockiness. In terms of actual raw skill, I think even the biggest blindest Serral fanboys can admit that Maru is lightyears ahead in skill.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1277 Posts
February 11 2024 19:57 GMT
#1559
On February 12 2024 04:55 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 04:54 Balnazza wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:52 Solio wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:48 Balnazza wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:46 Solio wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:43 Nasigil wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Maru has been the better player for this entire game, but it's just too big of a map advantage for Serral to overcome.


Maru got caught with like 10 supposedly "singlehandedly game ending" fungal but was still able to drag it all the way to the end. How does that make him a better player?


Because burrowed infestors fungals = bullshit

So much easier to get them than to catch them and defend against them, the fact that Maru was able to make the game close while playing on this difficult map and against this stupid unit clearly shows he is better, like every single engagement that serral won was because of that, without that it would not even be close


Almost like burrowed infestors are Zergs only real option to catch Ghosts who otherwise completly outrun their army and kill it in the process?


No, other option = just fungal them normally and be the quicker player, normal interactions between spellcasters, thats how it should be


Yes, please work your slow-ass, short-ranged spellcasters into a ball of "spellcasters" with stupid amount of DPS that can cloak...


It's good that you're not letting the easy victory of your race derail you away from what's important


1)Rathuset has a 50/50 split between Terran and Zerg (according to Liquipedia)
2)I wouldn't exactly call a 45min game down to the last mineral patch "easy"...
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 11 2024 19:57 GMT
#1560
On February 12 2024 04:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 04:52 Fango wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:51 Gescom wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:46 Solio wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:43 Nasigil wrote:
On February 12 2024 04:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Maru has been the better player for this entire game, but it's just too big of a map advantage for Serral to overcome.


Maru got caught with like 10 supposedly "singlehandedly game ending" fungal but was still able to drag it all the way to the end. How does that make him a better player?


Because burrowed infestors fungals = bullshit

So much easier to get them than to catch them and defend against them, the fact that Maru was able to make the game close while playing on this difficult map and against this stupid unit clearly shows he is better, like every single engagement that serral won was because of that, without that it would not even be close

Build a raven?

Ravens are way to slow to play on a map that big. The only option is mass orbitals and constant scans, but even then they stayed hidden


Not just that, but Maru's army is never moving in one large group, it's always moving in pieces. Ravens cost 150gas a piece, they build slowly, they move slowly, and they require a dedicated Starport to build.

It simply doesn't make sense to use them for detection when you are playing a mobile Bio style. A slower Mech style sure, but they just don't work with a Bio.

No Maru should have built as many ravens as infestors and have them everywhere clearly
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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