EPTOn February 10 2024 02:59 tigera6 wrote:
Obviously we are counting on Shin to knock Serral off again.
Obviously we are counting on Shin to knock Serral off again.
Don't even speak this kind of evil. Haha.
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Gescom
Canada3511 Posts
Don't even speak this kind of evil. Haha. | ||
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Durnuu
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On February 10 2024 03:08 geokilla wrote: I never expected the Chinese Protoss players to be this strong. How'd they get so good? WTL probably helped, and perhaps a bit more motivated after seeing Oliveira last year too. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
On February 10 2024 03:18 Durnuu wrote: WTL probably helped, and perhaps a bit more motivated after seeing Oliveira last year too. I take that back. What a blunder. | ||
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Durnuu
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Never forget: the foreigner is always half full. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 10 2024 02:58 allmotor1 wrote: And Reynor has beaten Serral plenty of times, it ebbs and flows. The skill difference between those top z's isnt massive, a small difference is enough to make difference. Not recently he hasn't. Serral is 20-4 against Reynor in the last year. And since last Katowice Serral is 36–4 (90%) in ZvZ matches . Granted he hasn't played Dark that many times, but I do think he is levels above the other zergs right now. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26742 Posts
On February 10 2024 03:07 Ciaus237 wrote: Serral with a pretty sick comeback against Skillous. As per usual, even with a huge disadvantage Serral basically plays it out close to perfect, or as perfect as you can from such a deficit. And it’s rare he even makes an error to give such a huge lead away. Why he’s so bloody hard to beat, although Skillous really should have put him away. Oof Byun if you play remotely as sloppy as that second set against Kelazhur, against one of the eliteTerrans, there’s just no way man. | ||
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tigera6
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Thats probably why Maru has tried to slow it down by playing the more Tech heavy style of Viking-Libs-Ravens whenever he can. | ||
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Durnuu
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Poopi
France12912 Posts
On February 10 2024 03:30 WombaT wrote: As per usual, even with a huge disadvantage Serral basically plays it out close to perfect, or as perfect as you can from such a deficit. And it’s rare he even makes an error to give such a huge lead away. Why he’s so bloody hard to beat, although Skillous really should have put him away. Oof Byun if you play remotely as sloppy as that second set against Kelazhur, against one of the eliteTerrans, there’s just no way man. ByuN played that pretty well, his style is particularly hectic but he was overall in control. He can beat any elite terran but it'll probably look close either way | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26742 Posts
On February 10 2024 03:27 Fango wrote: Not recently he hasn't. Serral is 20-4 against Reynor in the last year. And since last Katowice Serral is 36–4 (90%) in ZvZ matches . Granted he hasn't played Dark that many times, but I do think he is levels above the other zergs right now. Serral’s numbers all-round this past year are just, ridiculous. You almost just assume Serral’s doing his thing as per usual and almost underestimate quite how ridiculous some of his stats actually are when you check them. That’s his ’weak matchup too. It’s looking as strong as any time as when he was the king of ZvZ when he would win roach wars or the lurker/viper stage most times. It’s no guarantee of winning this tournament, but I feel there’s this perception that Serral and Reynor are kind of neck and neck when Serral’s a touch above when you dive into it, least at this juncture. Or the other Zergs. Reynor and Dark can still beat any Toss but their ZvP isn’t bulletproof as Serral’s has been for years now. | ||
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JJH777
United States4417 Posts
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Solio
France145 Posts
On February 10 2024 04:01 JJH777 wrote: It's crazy that Korea is going into the final day with a very legitimate shot at clutching out 8-9 spots in the top 12 despite no open bracket, a qualification format that was extremely biased against them, and the 3 best Koreans being lumped into a single group with the 2nd and 5th best EU players. With fairer groups, better qualifiers and the forms Clem/Reynor showed up in it seems like this could have ended with 11 Koreans and Serral. So was harstem right 👀 | ||
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Gescom
Canada3511 Posts
On February 10 2024 04:01 JJH777 wrote: It's crazy that Korea is going into the final day with a very legitimate shot at clutching out 8-9 spots in the top 12 despite no open bracket, a qualification format that was extremely biased against them, and the 3 best Koreans being lumped into a single group with the 2nd and 5th best EU players. With fairer groups, better qualifiers and the forms Clem/Reynor showed up in it seems like this could have ended with 11 Koreans and Serral. Erm... given the way the EU and NA qualifiers were completely open and allowed a ton of Koreans to stream thru the NA region, it was pretty much an open bracket that I don't think was biased against them at all. =/ Looking at the brackets, the only "upset" I can potentially see would be if Clem doesn't make it through tomorrow. Reynor's performance is disappointing, but its Group D. On the flip side, Scarlett, Oliveira or ShowTime could all make big moves tomorrow. | ||
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Poopi
France12912 Posts
On February 10 2024 04:01 JJH777 wrote: It's crazy that Korea is going into the final day with a very legitimate shot at clutching out 8-9 spots in the top 12 despite no open bracket, a qualification format that was extremely biased against them, and the 3 best Koreans being lumped into a single group with the 2nd and 5th best EU players. With fairer groups, better qualifiers and the forms Clem/Reynor showed up in it seems like this could have ended with 11 Koreans and Serral. It’s not surprising, Serral and Reynor usually hang out well and Clem does online (he was expected to show up after his Atlanta win, he can still qualify). Since MaxPax doesn’t play offline, it’s then HeroMarine, maybe ShoWTimE or Oliveira. The next tier of players rarely qualify unless they get extremely lucky | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
Honestly cyan played very against maru He is legit good | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
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Ciaus237
South Africa288 Posts
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JJH777
United States4417 Posts
On February 10 2024 04:14 Gescom wrote: Erm... given the way the EU and NA qualifiers were completely open and allowed a ton of Koreans to stream thru the NA region, it was pretty much an open bracket that I don't think was biased against them at all. =/ Looking at the brackets, the only "upset" I can potentially see would be if Clem doesn't make it through tomorrow. Reynor's performance is disappointing, but its Group D. On the flip side, Scarlett, Oliveira or ShowTime could all make big moves tomorrow. EU server only getting 1 less slot than Korea/CN combined is blatant favoring of EU in the qualifiers. They weren't actual global qualifiers because KR was forced to play on EU. There is literally no chance EU end up with this many slots with a true global qualifier system. | ||
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