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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
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dysenterymd
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
4 mining bases vs 1 right now and herO is up in resources lost | ||
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
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Durnuu
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:26 Durnuu wrote: Reynor going through midlife crisis with this hair lmao, I was thinking the same. and Reynor is almost certainly out of the tournament. | ||
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dysenterymd
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:23 dysenterymd wrote: Reynor has eaten so many storms, both in this series and against Showtime. If there were a storm-damage count I bet it would be gnarly. At the end herO had a dozen of ht but yeah, reynor engage during middle game was atrocious. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7166 Posts
Not looking good for The Italian Stallion... Eadit: Cyan has to beat Showtime 2-0 too. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:06 Fango wrote: Goes to show how impressive Stats is that he pulled off wins against Serral and Maru while barely dipping into the dirty protoss bag at all. At the same time, the protoss bag hasn't looked deep enough to actually win tournaments in a few years now. Maybe playing defensive is actually the best way to win? Can you expect protoss players to really enter tournaments with 25 surprise builds? I think there's a middle ground between playing ultra conservative like Showtime and playing hyper aggressive like herO. Probably how Trap played seems to be the best approach | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:33 Luolis wrote: If Reynor beats Cyan and Dark 2-0, Cyan beats Showtime and Showtime and Maru beat herO 2-0, that is how he makes ro12. Not looking good for The Italian Stallion... Eadit: Cyan has to beat Showtime 2-0 too. Showtime vs Cyan is about to go 1-1 so I don't think it's possible for Reynor to overtake both of them now | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
But he has a lot trouble to be consistently in shape since gamer8. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7166 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:33 Luolis wrote: If Reynor beats Cyan and Dark 2-0, Cyan beats Showtime and Showtime and Maru beat herO 2-0, that is how he makes ro12. Not looking good for The Italian Stallion... Eadit: Cyan has to beat Showtime 2-0 too. Cyan loses map 2 so Reynor is done. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:33 Luolis wrote: If Reynor beats Cyan and Dark 2-0, Cyan beats Showtime and Showtime and Maru beat herO 2-0, that is how he makes ro12. Not looking good for The Italian Stallion... Eadit: Cyan has to beat Showtime 2-0 too. Cyan and Showtime are 1-1 now, does that mean they've just eliminated Reynor? Funny how that happens in Round Robins. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26734 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:12 dysenterymd wrote: Defensive Protoss play doesn't actually look too bad these days against Zerg, as long as you get a few drone kills with your adepts/oracles. Still unwise for P to drag it out into the late game against the likes of Serral or Dark, but chilling until the later mid-game is viable. Yeah, the tricky part is stopping the Zerg exploding, but if you get there it looks pretty playable. I mean Zerg can just kill you, but not really with poking, they have to commit pretty hard. I’d say the tricky part for Toss these days if they’re trying to play defensively is in PvT there are so many ways to just die, or take crippling damage from Terran’s various tools. And Terran don’t have to deviate from their late-game plan and comps to do it, they can just exploit a small positional mistake and capitalise. The critical phase of macro PvT, when you’re getting that 3rd up, and thinking about getting a 4th and really supercharging your macro, is just damn hard to negotiate. When batteries were just that little bit stronger Toss way more reliably survived that phase in good shape, often ahead and they could get into the ‘super’ late game where they could leverage that to make things really tough for Terrans, if they could grab a couple of extra bases, be building a very technical army and have a load of extra cash to have Zealots and DTs harassing all over the place. | ||
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:34 Charoisaur wrote: I think there's a middle ground between playing ultra conservative like Showtime and playing hyper aggressive like herO. Probably how Trap played seems to be the best approach Trap was still mostly macro, I'd say Classic was the best "middle ground" protoss, as in the one sitting right in the middle between aggressive and macro | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:36 stilt wrote: Really sad for reynor, I really like him and think he is super skilled, you're not wc and twice vice wc without being good. But he has a lot trouble to be consistently in shape since gamer8. Agreed. And almost a 2x WC if you count Gamers8 | ||
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dysenterymd
1250 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:47 Durnuu wrote: Trap was still mostly macro, I'd say Classic was the best "middle ground" protoss, as in the one sitting right in the middle between aggressive and macro Yeah, every top P is able to throw in some cheeses here and there, but Classic was unique in having really good defense but also being willing to throw in the dirtiest/riskiest cheese imaginable. | ||
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