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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:47 Durnuu wrote: Trap was still mostly macro, I'd say Classic was the best "middle ground" protoss, as in the one sitting right in the middle between aggressive and macro Classic was also the best build-smith protoss had. It's hard to imagine anyone else coming out with as many surprise builds | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:34 Charoisaur wrote: I think there's a middle ground between playing ultra conservative like Showtime and playing hyper aggressive like herO. Probably how Trap played seems to be the best approach Stylistically, if not talking pure raw skill (although he had plenty) Trap probably had the best playstyle for the race by adapting to his shape and the meta. When his PvT was at its peak, which was damn good indeed he’d play straight up games a lot, but mix in some non-committal or committal aggression. He tried and failed to replicate that in PvZ and basically rebuilt it to be focused around crisp timing attacks, and made hay in the year where he was winning tournies and taking out even the likes of Serral in extended series. He didn’t really have a ‘style’ like a herO and Stats clearly do, at opposite ends of the aggressive/defensive spectrum | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Ludwigvan
Germany2371 Posts
 they get fixed fast, but it is quite odd. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:57 Fango wrote: It's weird to think that their match tomorrow will be worth $500 for Reynor and maybe $10K for Dark. Round Robins can be wild They're playing on the B stream right now. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 10 2024 02:02 TheLordofAwesome wrote: They're playing on the B stream right now. My bad, although it's still a funny interaction now where Dark is going for 1st and Reynor is playing a showmatch | ||
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 10 2024 02:08 Durnuu wrote: Gonna have to step up that ZvZ if you wanna win before military, Dark Dark isn't ever beating Serral. I think his ZvZ will only be a factor if he faces Solar in the playoffs | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On February 10 2024 01:50 Fango wrote: Classic was also the best build-smith protoss had. It's hard to imagine anyone else coming out with as many surprise builds He did have some damn nice tailored builds. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16024 Posts
On February 10 2024 02:10 Fango wrote: Dark isn't ever beating Serral. I think his ZvZ will only be a factor if he faces Solar in the playoffs He has basically an even record against Serral (24-26). In good ZvZ form he can definitely beat him | ||
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ekojs
16 Posts
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On February 10 2024 02:30 ekojs wrote: Maru vs Dark for 1st place. Hero vs Showtime for qualification. Nice games tomorrow. and Reynor vs Cyan for who has the ignominy of finishing dead last! | ||
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Sent.
Poland9269 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On February 10 2024 02:29 Charoisaur wrote: He has basically an even record against Serral (24-26). In good ZvZ form he can definitely beat him Huh, I didn't realise Dark actually wins their h2h in online matches. Although Serral hasn't lost to Dark offline in 7 years, and that was before he was even a full-time player. As much as I love Dark I think he's cooked if he matches Serral. Dark struggles against Reynor, and Serral has either 3-0 or 4-0'd Reynor almost every time they've met for the last year. The skill difference between them isn't even close. | ||
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dysenterymd
1250 Posts
On February 10 2024 02:46 Fango wrote: Huh, I didn't realise Dark actually wins their h2h in online matches. Although Serral hasn't lost to Dark offline in 7 years, and that was before he was even a full-time player. As much as I love Dark I think he's cooked if he matches Serral. Dark struggles against Reynor, and Serral has either 3-0 or 4-0'd Reynor almost every time they've met for the last year. The skill difference between them isn't even close. Eh, I don't think it's as clear cut as Serral beats Reynor and Reynor beats Dark so Serral beats Dark, though I do agree that Serral is heavily favored. I mainly believe that because Serral has looked monstrous in ZvZ for the past few months, he's beaten Solar multiple times and crushed Reynor. I honestly think Maru/Clem are more dangerous to Serral right now than Dark/Solar (or Reynor, but he's out already) | ||
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allmotor1
153 Posts
On February 10 2024 02:46 Fango wrote: Huh, I didn't realise Dark actually wins their h2h in online matches. Although Serral hasn't lost to Dark offline in 7 years, and that was before he was even a full-time player. As much as I love Dark I think he's cooked if he matches Serral. Dark struggles against Reynor, and Serral has either 3-0 or 4-0'd Reynor almost every time they've met for the last year. The skill difference between them isn't even close. And Reynor has beaten Serral plenty of times, it ebbs and flows. The skill difference between those top z's isnt massive, a small difference is enough to make difference. | ||
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tigera6
3455 Posts
Firefly throwing the game by not making Archon against Chargelot | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
On February 10 2024 02:59 tigera6 wrote: Obviously we are counting on Shin to knock Serral off again. Firefly throwing the game by not making Archon against Chargelot or even just a few zealots vs zealots | ||
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Ciaus237
South Africa286 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8245 Posts
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