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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7162 Posts
February 09 2024 14:04 GMT
#341
Big bigger Gabe
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
February 09 2024 14:05 GMT
#342
First player to make Ro8 in IEM, hes a legend.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7166 Posts
February 09 2024 14:05 GMT
#343
Trigger clutched defeat from the jaws of victory in that g2. Have to wonder about his mental going into g3.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26703 Posts
February 09 2024 14:08 GMT
#344
On February 09 2024 22:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 22:33 Zzzapper wrote:
On February 09 2024 22:26 Fango wrote:
On February 09 2024 22:23 darklycid wrote:
On February 09 2024 22:20 Fango wrote:
Odds on a zero protoss ro12?

Eh Not that high group c should have 1 and group D still has a good Chance as Well.

Group C will have 1 toss advance but D is 50/50.

Hopefully the big dogs didn't bother practicing vs protoss

Wouldn't call D 50/50. Reynor most likely has to win all of his matches to overtake every protoss. He hasn't looked that great and he's facing herO and Dark today. Given what he showed yesterday, I'd put him at 10-15% to advance

I have a hard time counting Reynor out until he's actually eliminated. When he won Katowice in 2021 he won 7 elimination games. He's too clutch.

I feel his clutchness starts to increase the deeper he goes, I’d fancy his chances to pull off a reverse sweep in playoffs more than him pulling off a recovery from 0-2 here.

Especially when just winning may prove insufficient, with score differential also coming into play. As well as the complication that players will have already qualified by the time he’ll have clawed back a deficit.

It can go both ways to be fair, with this format you can see more on-paper upsets when players start to qualify and take their foot off the gas a bit.

Although I’m looking at the match order, it’s not too bad for Reynor. If he can navigate herO next up, Maru and herO will still be fighting to get out. After that he’s got Dark, who may be 3-0 and 6-1 at that point. He should be close to mathematically qualified, although maybe not as group winner. Never easy playing Dark, but I think easier than fighting a Dark who’s trying to cling to his tournament life.

But yeah he definitely has the ability to do it.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7162 Posts
February 09 2024 14:08 GMT
#345
Damn these player cards are awesome!

I want a Panini (is that something known in other countries as well?) sticker collection of these
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 09 2024 14:15 GMT
#346
On February 09 2024 21:27 Vindicare605 wrote:
Bunny needs to beat Clem to have a chance, but Clem's already beaten both of the Terrans he's lost to. Doesn't look good for him.

If I'm not mistaken:

Shin guaranteed top2, top 1 if he beats Oliveira.
Cure guaranteed top3, top 1 if he beats Stats and Shin loses.

For Bunny to advance, he needs:
-Beat Clem, SHIN beats Oliveira
-Beat Clem 2-0, Oliveira 2-1 SHIN

For Oliveira to advance, he needs:
-Beat SHIN, Bunny beats Clem. Needs to beat SHIN with at least equal map score as Bunny beats Oliveira.

For Clem to advance, he needs
-Any victory.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26703 Posts
February 09 2024 14:16 GMT
#347
On February 09 2024 23:01 Harris1st wrote:
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On February 09 2024 22:53 Pandain wrote:
On February 09 2024 22:48 Faruko wrote:
I've been totally out of the loop but who's this spirit guy and why he was kinda hyped?

Dude looks really mediocre so far, not great micro, bad build decisions, super passive...


Spirit has been a perenniel "very good" foreign terran player, but never a championship-contender or someone who looked like he could challenge the top dogs.

But I think starting at the beginning of 2023 he was playing very good, taking series off of Reynor, Clem e.g. and regularly beating heromarine. But he hasn't been playing at that level for like 6 months or so now


Also he was Serrals goto TvZ practise partner and was praised a lot for having very good macro and endgame control in TvZ. The caveat beeing to enter endgame somewhat even

He’s clearly a very good player at that kind of game.

There’s that old saying that a musician is a ‘musician’s musician’, Spirit strikes me as a ‘StarCraft’s Starcraft player’, EU pros seem to rate him more than the average viewer, they must see something in their endless practice games.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 09 2024 14:24 GMT
#348
Liquipedia says there's a thereoetical way for Trigger to advance but I'm scratching my head trying to figure that one out
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 09 2024 14:26 GMT
#349
On February 09 2024 23:24 Pandain wrote:
Liquipedia says there's a thereoetical way for Trigger to advance but I'm scratching my head trying to figure that one out


I think it's Gumi 2-0 Solar, Gumi beat Scarlett, Trigger 2-0 Heromarine and Spirit 2-0 Solar

I might have my map score math wrong
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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
February 09 2024 14:27 GMT
#350
On February 09 2024 23:24 Pandain wrote:
Liquipedia says there's a thereoetical way for Trigger to advance but I'm scratching my head trying to figure that one out

I don't think there is, he can't pass Scarlett since she won h2h and either Gumiho or Solar is gonna be 3-1 after the next match
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 09 2024 14:28 GMT
#351
On February 09 2024 23:26 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 23:24 Pandain wrote:
Liquipedia says there's a thereoetical way for Trigger to advance but I'm scratching my head trying to figure that one out


I think it's Gumi 2-0 Solar, Gumi beat Scarlett, Trigger 2-0 Heromarine and Spirit 2-0 Solar

I might have my map score math wrong

Scarlett would advance over Trigger due to the H2H as they'd both be at 5-7 map score.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
February 09 2024 14:29 GMT
#352
On February 09 2024 23:24 Pandain wrote:
Liquipedia says there's a thereoetical way for Trigger to advance but I'm scratching my head trying to figure that one out

I don't see a way either, because at best he could be tied with Scarlett but he lost head2head so he would lose the mini league...
WriterMaru
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
February 09 2024 14:30 GMT
#353
On February 09 2024 23:24 Pandain wrote:
Liquipedia says there's a thereoetical way for Trigger to advance but I'm scratching my head trying to figure that one out

More likely it's just that the liquipedia editor wasn't sure if there was a way, so (s)he didn't put trigger's name red just in case
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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-09 14:31:31
February 09 2024 14:30 GMT
#354
On February 09 2024 23:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 23:26 Nakajin wrote:
On February 09 2024 23:24 Pandain wrote:
Liquipedia says there's a thereoetical way for Trigger to advance but I'm scratching my head trying to figure that one out


I think it's Gumi 2-0 Solar, Gumi beat Scarlett, Trigger 2-0 Heromarine and Spirit 2-0 Solar

I might have my map score math wrong

Scarlett would advance over Trigger due to the H2H as they'd both be at 5-7 map score.

Yeah, there's also some scenario where it's 3-way 2-3/5-7 map score with Solar/Scarlett/Trigger but then head to head is Solar 2-0, Scarlett 1-1, Trigger 0-2
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7166 Posts
February 09 2024 14:31 GMT
#355
Nice win by Trigger but i believe hes mathematically out anyway. He cant win a threewaytie because he lost to Gumi, Solar and Scarlett and cant have better mapscore than Scarlett.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 09 2024 14:31 GMT
#356
Best case scenario for the broadcast tomorrow is if Solar beats Gumi. We'll have a direct qualification battle between Scarlett and Gumi
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 09 2024 14:36 GMT
#357
Looks like the liquipedia editors agree with us now haha. Poor Trigger, but great he got a win on the main stage.
yezzir88
Profile Joined January 2024
31 Posts
February 09 2024 14:43 GMT
#358
On February 09 2024 15:27 Neptuneajax wrote:
Are you insinuating something? Because if you are please back that up with with something factual.


I would never ever in my life insinuate such a thing. You're reading way too much into what I said. Get out of your own head bro. All I'm saying is that Serral just so happens to get weak groups (weak compared to his skill level) every year and has never had to play in a group of death therefore less stress and better performance later down in the tournament giving him a higher chance of winning. Its just good luck. It can't possibly be anything else. I am just simply wondering why. No need to project bro.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-09 14:50:36
February 09 2024 14:45 GMT
#359
On February 09 2024 23:43 yezzir88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 15:27 Neptuneajax wrote:
Are you insinuating something? Because if you are please back that up with with something factual.


I would never ever in my life insinuate such a thing. You're reading way too much into what I said. Get out of your own head bro. All I'm saying is that Serral just so happens to get weak groups (weak compared to his skill level) every year and has never had to play in a group of death therefore less stress and better performance later down in the tournament giving him a higher chance of winning. Its just good luck. It can't possibly be anything else. I am just simply wondering why. No need to project bro.


Blizzcon 2019 had him in a four person group with Stats, Maru, and Time.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7166 Posts
February 09 2024 14:59 GMT
#360
Death, taxes, Gumi losing a bio TvZ.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
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