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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-09 13:26:19
February 09 2024 13:25 GMT
#321
On February 09 2024 22:00 Antithesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 21:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 09 2024 21:41 Zzzapper wrote:
On February 09 2024 21:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 09 2024 21:30 WombaT wrote:
Man much as I love Stats (and who doesn’t), it’s a bit unfortunate for us Protoss that Classic got PvPed out of qualifiers. Stats has shown glimpses but he’s not quite at the shape to compete at this level yet after his return


Yea Classic would have done better at this tournament. Stats isn't ready yet, especially on this patch with these maps. It doesn't suit his style at all.

Add to it that he got put in the group of death. Just a bad draw for Stats.

At this point I'm afraid it's not a question of time with Stats. He's been back for a year and he legitimately doesn't look any better now than he did a month or two into his return. Not what we would hope for from one of the all time great protoss players

And yet somehow he keeps qualifying.

How did he qualify, actually? Him being in this tournament rather than Classic is surprising indeed given how the year went.

Stats had a fortuitous bracket, and also while his non-mirrors aren’t quite up to snuff he is still legitimately very good at PvP too.

But he beat like Lemon, Nightmare, coffee and sOs to qualify. Not his fault the bracket opened up that way for him, but compared to some others who didn’t make it it was an easy path.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4039 Posts
February 09 2024 13:26 GMT
#322
Gabe in his IEM form right there
Drone is a way of living
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 09 2024 13:26 GMT
#323
On February 09 2024 22:23 darklycid wrote:
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On February 09 2024 22:20 Fango wrote:
Odds on a zero protoss ro12?

Eh Not that high group c should have 1 and group D still has a good Chance as Well.

Group C will have 1 toss advance but D is 50/50.

Hopefully the big dogs didn't bother practicing vs protoss
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7040 Posts
February 09 2024 13:28 GMT
#324
On February 09 2024 22:24 Die4Ever wrote:
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On February 09 2024 22:22 Harris1st wrote:
On February 09 2024 22:20 Fango wrote:
Odds on a zero protoss ro12?


There will be two. One out of each C and D

well, a zero protoss ro8 then probably lol


1 max. Whoever is coming out of group D has a shot at Ro8. I predict the winner of herO vs Showtime will advance and when paired with A (Scarlett / Gumi rigjht now) or C ( Byun / Astrea) has a shot
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
February 09 2024 13:28 GMT
#325
On February 09 2024 22:02 Ciaus237 wrote:
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On February 09 2024 21:59 WombaT wrote:
On February 09 2024 21:58 Ciaus237 wrote:
I hate cyclones.

Who doesn’t?


Presumably someone with pull, otherwise we'd never have got them.

The fact that a highly mobile, reactorable unit with decent anti-air also kills roach / queen makes ZvT vs mech absolutely insufferable.

It is literally just some villain in the shadows who rubs their hands with glee every time they read an LR thread. I can think of no other explanation
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa286 Posts
February 09 2024 13:31 GMT
#326
On February 09 2024 22:28 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 22:02 Ciaus237 wrote:
On February 09 2024 21:59 WombaT wrote:
On February 09 2024 21:58 Ciaus237 wrote:
I hate cyclones.

Who doesn’t?


Presumably someone with pull, otherwise we'd never have got them.

The fact that a highly mobile, reactorable unit with decent anti-air also kills roach / queen makes ZvT vs mech absolutely insufferable.

It is literally just some villain in the shadows who rubs their hands with glee every time they read an LR thread. I can think of no other explanation


This does seem most plausible [thinking emoji]
The time that we kill keeps us alive
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
February 09 2024 13:33 GMT
#327
On February 09 2024 22:26 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 22:23 darklycid wrote:
On February 09 2024 22:20 Fango wrote:
Odds on a zero protoss ro12?

Eh Not that high group c should have 1 and group D still has a good Chance as Well.

Group C will have 1 toss advance but D is 50/50.

Hopefully the big dogs didn't bother practicing vs protoss

Wouldn't call D 50/50. Reynor most likely has to win all of his matches to overtake every protoss. He hasn't looked that great and he's facing herO and Dark today. Given what he showed yesterday, I'd put him at 10-15% to advance
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7040 Posts
February 09 2024 13:34 GMT
#328
On February 09 2024 22:33 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 22:26 Fango wrote:
On February 09 2024 22:23 darklycid wrote:
On February 09 2024 22:20 Fango wrote:
Odds on a zero protoss ro12?

Eh Not that high group c should have 1 and group D still has a good Chance as Well.

Group C will have 1 toss advance but D is 50/50.

Hopefully the big dogs didn't bother practicing vs protoss

Wouldn't call D 50/50. Reynor most likely has to win all of his matches to overtake every protoss. He hasn't looked that great and he's facing herO and Dark today. Given what he showed yesterday, I'd put him at 10-15% to advance


Yeah I see him going 2:3 at max. That means any Protoss has "just" to get 3:2
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
February 09 2024 13:35 GMT
#329
Harstem and Lambo are amazing on the C stream, by far the most enjoyable for me. I quite like how they go more in depth about the gameplay and are not only describing what's on screen.

Such a shame that they get the least amount of game.
It's good to be back
Nasigil
Profile Joined July 2023
137 Posts
February 09 2024 13:36 GMT
#330
Not much hope for any protoss in group C to overcome Byun, but Showtime and herO have a decent chance at group D.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 09 2024 13:39 GMT
#331
On February 09 2024 22:33 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 22:26 Fango wrote:
On February 09 2024 22:23 darklycid wrote:
On February 09 2024 22:20 Fango wrote:
Odds on a zero protoss ro12?

Eh Not that high group c should have 1 and group D still has a good Chance as Well.

Group C will have 1 toss advance but D is 50/50.

Hopefully the big dogs didn't bother practicing vs protoss

Wouldn't call D 50/50. Reynor most likely has to win all of his matches to overtake every protoss. He hasn't looked that great and he's facing herO and Dark today. Given what he showed yesterday, I'd put him at 10-15% to advance

I have a hard time counting Reynor out until he's actually eliminated. When he won Katowice in 2021 he won 7 elimination games. He's too clutch.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7040 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-09 13:40:45
February 09 2024 13:39 GMT
#332
On February 09 2024 22:36 Nasigil wrote:
Not much hope for any protoss in group C to overcome Byun, but Showtime and herO have a decent chance at group D.


Check out the LP (Wiki)IEM Katowice/2024
3 people advance from each group
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Nasigil
Profile Joined July 2023
137 Posts
February 09 2024 13:45 GMT
#333
On February 09 2024 22:39 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 22:36 Nasigil wrote:
Not much hope for any protoss in group C to overcome Byun, but Showtime and herO have a decent chance at group D.


Check out the LP (Wiki)IEM Katowice/2024
3 people advance from each group


Oh yeah my bad. Sorry. Somehow thought only two players advance from each group straight to ro.8.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
February 09 2024 13:48 GMT
#334
I've been totally out of the loop but who's this spirit guy and why he was kinda hyped?

Dude looks really mediocre so far, not great micro, bad build decisions, super passive...
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 09 2024 13:49 GMT
#335
Scarlett's about to die when this 3/3 kicks in.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
February 09 2024 13:53 GMT
#336
On February 09 2024 22:48 Faruko wrote:
I've been totally out of the loop but who's this spirit guy and why he was kinda hyped?

Dude looks really mediocre so far, not great micro, bad build decisions, super passive...

Spirit is souL
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 09 2024 13:53 GMT
#337
On February 09 2024 22:48 Faruko wrote:
I've been totally out of the loop but who's this spirit guy and why he was kinda hyped?

Dude looks really mediocre so far, not great micro, bad build decisions, super passive...


Spirit has been a perenniel "very good" foreign terran player, but never a championship-contender or someone who looked like he could challenge the top dogs.

But I think starting at the beginning of 2023 he was playing very good, taking series off of Reynor, Clem e.g. and regularly beating heromarine. But he hasn't been playing at that level for like 6 months or so now
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3455 Posts
February 09 2024 13:53 GMT
#338
On February 09 2024 22:48 Faruko wrote:
I've been totally out of the loop but who's this spirit guy and why he was kinda hyped?

Dude looks really mediocre so far, not great micro, bad build decisions, super passive...

Hes an EU Terran player and was taking some good games and even matches against top EU players like Reynor, HM and barely lost to Clem. Some might think he had a better year in 2023 than HM.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-09 13:54:50
February 09 2024 13:54 GMT
#339
On February 09 2024 22:48 Faruko wrote:
I've been totally out of the loop but who's this spirit guy and why he was kinda hyped?

Dude looks really mediocre so far, not great micro, bad build decisions, super passive...


Def not a T1 or T2 terran or anything, but he's close to T2 and he can take series off T2 players like Creator
That was def a bad game from him and Trigger though, it feels both didn't understand their position well
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7040 Posts
February 09 2024 14:01 GMT
#340
On February 09 2024 22:53 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2024 22:48 Faruko wrote:
I've been totally out of the loop but who's this spirit guy and why he was kinda hyped?

Dude looks really mediocre so far, not great micro, bad build decisions, super passive...


Spirit has been a perenniel "very good" foreign terran player, but never a championship-contender or someone who looked like he could challenge the top dogs.

But I think starting at the beginning of 2023 he was playing very good, taking series off of Reynor, Clem e.g. and regularly beating heromarine. But he hasn't been playing at that level for like 6 months or so now


Also he was Serrals goto TvZ practise partner and was praised a lot for having very good macro and endgame control in TvZ. The caveat beeing to enter endgame somewhat even
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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