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Waxangel
United States33192 Posts
![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/homestorycup/hsc24banner.jpg) Schedule December 1-2 start time is 12:00 GMT (+00:00) // December 3 is 13:30 GMT (+00:00)
English Streams: TakeTV + Steadfast Stream Schedule: Initial RO24 Groups ![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/homestorycup/hsc24groups.png) | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden656 Posts
 awesome event | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Cheering for Serral as always. Hope Skillous, Showtime and Heromarine will also have good runs. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10316 Posts
Wow cool to see Stephano playing. I hope Skillous, Astrea, trigger do well. | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden656 Posts
On December 01 2023 07:51 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Do KRs usually attend these? Wow cool to see Stephano playing. I hope Skillous, Astrea, trigger do well. Yes. Not this one though because: On December 01 2023 03:14 Waxangel wrote: From reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1853m77/hsc24_groups_starts_on_friday/kb00xe0/ | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10316 Posts
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karalinda
United States1 Post
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Philippe
349 Posts
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Antithesis
Germany1096 Posts
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gTank
Austria2551 Posts
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dysenterymd
1177 Posts
On December 01 2023 20:29 Philippe wrote: Astrea has a good chance of getting through. Scarlett and trigger vs HeroMarine on equal ping, not holding my breath ... Trigger has taken some big scalps against Terran (mainly online granted) and Scarlett occasionally shows up strong. I don't think it's impossible, though Gabe and Reynor are heavily favored in that group. | ||
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tigera6
3220 Posts
On December 01 2023 22:43 gTank wrote: The matches are really bad somehow. Maybe I expected more and I didnt watch any sc2 for some time but oof. Thats what happen when you have a 24 players tournament but around half of them arent expected to be doing anything meaningful imo. The prize distribution also reflect that, when only top 12 are making money, with the rest enjoy a free trip to HSC with food and drink. But to be fair, some of the PvZ have been pretty good to watch. | ||
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Philippe
349 Posts
On December 01 2023 22:43 dysenterymd wrote: Trigger has taken some big scalps against Terran (mainly online granted) and Scarlett occasionally shows up strong. I don't think it's impossible, though Gabe and Reynor are heavily favored in that group. Both of them have the ability to beat the very best players atm. The problem is wherever they can do so with enough consistency. For one series trigger wins against ByuN, Scarlett might lose against Gerald, and vice-versa. In comparison while HeroMarine does have a dip in form this season, I'll still favour him on the back of him being more reliable on average. | ||
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_fool
Netherlands675 Posts
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Crocolisk Dundee
870 Posts
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stilt
France2746 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10316 Posts
Also, CYCLONES hahaha Seriously though, it would be nice if we can find a way to make Cyclones slightly better at TvP mech rather than TvZ mech | ||
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Antithesis
Germany1096 Posts
HeroMarine's mass cyclone/mech strategy against Scarlett was neat to watch as well. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17912 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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darklycid
3375 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9132 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
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darklycid
3375 Posts
On December 04 2023 02:01 geokilla wrote: I'm not so sure if he did forget about that base.... His camera was over it multiple times near the end. I think he made a conscious decision not to get it. No way, he would have 100% won with it. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
On December 04 2023 02:01 geokilla wrote: I'm not so sure if he did forget about that base.... His camera was over it multiple times near the end. I think he made a conscious decision not to get it. no way, he was long distance mining from a nearly mined out base. There was no reason not to get that base, Reynor could've done nothing against it at the end | ||
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Luolis
Finland7098 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
On December 04 2023 02:03 darklycid wrote: No way, he would have 100% won with it. On December 04 2023 02:03 Charoisaur wrote: no way, he was long distance mining from a nearly mined out base. There was no reason not to get that base, Reynor could've done nothing against it at the end Then why didn't he take it despite the camera being over it multiple times? That removes the forgetting excuse cus he saw it. He must have thought it was too wide open for Zerglings to kill his Probes or something. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15878 Posts
On December 04 2023 02:12 geokilla wrote: Then why didn't he take it despite the camera being over it multiple times? That removes the forgetting excuse cus he saw it. He must have thought it was too wide open for Zerglings to kill his Probes or something. I don't know how, but he did forget. Until he sent his probes long-distance mining to a nearly mined out base where they had to travel halfway across the map each trip, I was given him the benefit of the doubt, but after that there was no other explanation | ||
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darklycid
3375 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
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Kreuger
Sweden656 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10316 Posts
Harstem vs Clem was very exciting, yes Harstem could have played slightlyy better and won, but that's also why Clem is a top player. Very great showing, was hype af. | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden656 Posts
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Topin
Peru10042 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9132 Posts
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9132 Posts
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dysenterymd
1177 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9132 Posts
On December 04 2023 06:33 geokilla wrote: Lol it's only map 3 of the first semi finals. The matches should have started 2 hours early. It'll be 3AM by the time the finals start. Will they even be allowed to stay that long? The second semifinal should be quick. There's no way they'll keep going to late game every game like Serral and Reynor did in the first two games. | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7967 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17610 Posts
On December 04 2023 06:12 Sent. wrote: Not that it's a huge deal but I don't like it how you can change races after the vetos are done in this tournament. yea I think choosing race per map should be disallowed | ||
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patermatrix
64 Posts
On December 04 2023 07:14 Die4Ever wrote: yea I think choosing race per map should be disallowed Yeah I'm fine with switching between series, but at the start of the series you should have to commit to a race. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
On December 04 2023 07:30 patermatrix wrote: Yeah I'm fine with switching between series, but at the start of the series you should have to commit to a race. Well it clearly didn't matter. Players are fine with it too. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9132 Posts
On December 04 2023 06:44 Sent. wrote: The second semifinal should be quick. There's no way they'll keep going to late game every game like Serral and Reynor did in the first two games. I was wrong, so wrong... | ||
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Hider
Denmark9362 Posts
After having watched Reynors PvZ, I want him to play PvZ as well vs Clem. Feels like he could do much better in many of these situations. EDIT: Again on map 4. 6 bases and 69 probes. While Clem has 80 + OC's. These protosses in this tournament likes to handicap themselves. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17610 Posts
On December 04 2023 07:58 geokilla wrote: Well it clearly didn't matter. Players are fine with it too. I mean Serral is Serral, I still think it's not quite fair in a way that could potentially cause issues with the map pool imagine a really cool map but it's broken for a single matchup, no problem you just veto it as long as the remaining maps are generally balanced, except you could have someone switch race just for 1 map | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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Antithesis
Germany1096 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
On December 04 2023 08:12 Hider wrote: Why did skillous stop at 68 probes? Could have taken all bases and be at 80 workers with constant trading. After having watched Reynors PvZ, I want him to play PvZ as well vs Clem. Feels like he could do much better in many of these situations. EDIT: Again on map 4. 6 bases and 69 probes. While Clem has 80 + OC's. These protosses in this tournament likes to handicap themselves. Most Protoss players play like that in general. Even MaxPax. Though he handicaps himself by never having enough gas. | ||
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TossHeroes
281 Posts
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tigera6
3220 Posts
Btw I am seeing Terran NOT vetoing Equilibrium , is there any reason for it? i thought the gold base mean Zerg got a free win here? | ||
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Antithesis
Germany1096 Posts
Fun fact: Serral dropped only two maps in this tournament, one of which was against Reynor's protoss. As always, really fun event. Many thanks to TakeTV for putting it together! | ||
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
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Glorfindelio
193 Posts
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Gescom
Canada3323 Posts
On December 04 2023 11:30 Glorfindelio wrote: Good crowd, super entertaining games--grats to Serral and huge thanks to Take and his crew for continuing to put together HSCs in these times! Absolutely. ^^ GG to all. | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1455 Posts
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Gescom
Canada3323 Posts
 Serral going 19-2 is frankly redonkulous. | ||
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Agh
United States899 Posts
Pretty much every single modern competitive game uses the format of: 1. First Map being neutral, pre-determined, or randomly selected after Veto. 2. Players Blind pick Units. 3. Loser's Map Choice (Stage/Zone/Field/Battleground/Map) [Before the next game, 1st to occur] 4. Winner's Unit Selection (Race/Character/Composition)** [Once the Map has been determined] 5.. Loser's Unit Selection. **From this some organizers choose to enforcer winner's to be bound to their choice until they lose, but that is up to whatever the TO wants for their event. Reasoning for this is pretty straight forward since it promotes the closest series possible. Race changing is fine if it happens in this manner. Finals being shortened is absolutely fine if both players agree to it. All a longer series does is increase the chance that the better player will win (unless they are incredibly fatigued). I enjoy watching Serral's games regardless of opponent, but the tournament didn't lose much value from omitting potentially one less than ideal competitive match. | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1455 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9362 Posts
On December 04 2023 09:36 geokilla wrote: Most Protoss players play like that in general. Even MaxPax. Though he handicaps himself by never having enough gas. Maxpax gets ton of probes. Maxpax likes to get a 4th base though after he scouts 2-base allin. | ||
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Azhrak
Finland1194 Posts
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MJG
United Kingdom830 Posts
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TaKeTV
Germany1198 Posts
On December 04 2023 13:37 CicadaSC wrote: tournament felt rushed. i also didnt like the finals being changed to bo5 even if both players agreed to it. i feel like if ur trying to save time u have to know where and when to do it. changing the finals is not it. In what sense did it feel rushed for you? | ||
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Javah
France739 Posts
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CicadaSC
United States1455 Posts
It felt rushed when clems semifinals winners interview was skipped, the finals was shortened and we kept having to hear the casters say production is telling them to hurry up. Again, most of that is understandable and I'm okay with, it was a long day and I imagine people have flights and etc they need to get to in the morning but those were the areas I would say I felt it. Overall though I don't want to make this post too negative, I really loved the event, I thought it came out beautifully and I have been watching for 10+ years and am incredibly grateful you guys and your passion continue to support starcraft! | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1455 Posts
 edit: found it! traidos posted in the other thread! | ||
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ZeroByte13
751 Posts
We really appreciate everything you're doing, HSC is a magical experience. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6805 Posts
On December 04 2023 18:17 Azhrak wrote: The GOAT strikes again! And now with the H5C title.. truly the best of the best! Is it really only 5 titles. Feels like more... I gotta check this :D | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6805 Posts
On December 06 2023 22:03 Harris1st wrote: Is it really only 5 titles. Feels like more... I gotta check this :D EDIT: Serral did in fact miss a bunch of HSCs (not sure why, especially in his dominance period) but has a bunch of Stay@HSC titles making it total of 7 titles + 2x 2nd place in about 12 attempts | ||
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