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darklycid
3510 Posts
On October 05 2023 21:40 Harris1st wrote: lol banelings suck and Serral is dead Yea man they suck, zerg cant even hold a full terran army with an upgrade lead while a substantial part of the zerg army is counterattacking  | ||
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Glorfindelio
209 Posts
Yes, he split his army but come on, that would have been obliterated on the last patch. Wasn't even that committed of a timing push. | ||
Poopi
France12883 Posts
On October 05 2023 21:42 darklycid wrote: Yea man they suck, zerg cant even hold a full terran army with an upgrade lead while a substantial part of the zerg army is counterattacking I mean at this point people are so accustomed to zerg being able to hold everything and Serral beating the best terrans in the world 12-1 or so that him losing a single map to a top 2 terran makes the new patch instantly super T favored | ||
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Glorfindelio
209 Posts
On October 05 2023 21:44 Poopi wrote: I mean at this point people are so accustomed to zerg being able to hold everything and Serral beating the best terrans in the world 12-1 or so that him losing a single map to a top 2 terran makes the new patch instantly super T favored Laddering as Zerg below GM is just a blast right now. | ||
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darklycid
3510 Posts
On October 05 2023 21:43 Glorfindelio wrote: Haha. Ling Bane loses at equal supply loses against no tanks or mines on creep. Yes, he split his army but come on, that would have been obliterated on the last patch. Wasn't even that committed of a timing push. what? it was 8 rack3 base and he didnt even try to defend the counter it was a hard commit and zerg now just cant counter with like 30 supply while holding it. | ||
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darklycid
3510 Posts
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Glorfindelio
209 Posts
On October 05 2023 21:47 darklycid wrote: what? it was 8 rack3 base and he didnt even try to defend the counter it was a hard commit and zerg now just cant counter with like 30 supply while holding it. I mean, it wasn't like he killed Cure on the other side of the map. Even if he trades that army, he barely had tech, was behind an upgrade, and was close to equal on workers. Not an awful position. | ||
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Glorfindelio
209 Posts
On October 05 2023 21:53 darklycid wrote: Oh look banes can still work. The fact this game is as close as it is... | ||
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darklycid
3510 Posts
On October 05 2023 21:55 Glorfindelio wrote: I mean, it wasn't like he killed Cure on the other side of the map. Even if he trades that army, he barely had tech, was behind an upgrade, and was close to equal on workers. Not an awful position. he killed 22 workers, if he held that push at his 4th he would have been very far ahead and basically winning but you cannot just counter with so much supply now vs a full terran army. | ||
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Durnuu
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darklycid
3510 Posts
On October 05 2023 21:56 Glorfindelio wrote: The fact this game is as close as it is... also this game isnt really close after that one big cleanup cure just doesnt leave and does a all or nothing attack now. | ||
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Poopi
France12883 Posts
TvT might be either funnier or more annoying though, with interference matrix needing to be researched | ||
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darklycid
3510 Posts
On October 05 2023 22:01 Poopi wrote: Games look good so far, and cyclone doesn't seem broken. TvT might be either funnier or more annoying though, with interference matrix needing to be researched give it time cyclone still has time to become broken in some stupid builds :D | ||
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Poopi
France12883 Posts
On October 05 2023 22:04 darklycid wrote: give it time cyclone still has time to become broken in some stupid builds :D Yeah its potential seems to lie more in weird cheeses than in straight up macro games as a "core unit" like they intended initially | ||
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Durnuu
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darklycid
3510 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6929 Posts
On October 05 2023 22:22 darklycid wrote: Ya idk looks like zerg still works as usual but it looks to be more close at times rn. Need a bigger sample size than just the best player in the world making it work to make that call IMO | ||
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dysenterymd
1237 Posts
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Poopi
France12883 Posts
On October 05 2023 22:24 Harris1st wrote: Need a bigger sample size than just the best player in the world making it work to make that call IMO Maru hasn't played yet | ||
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Glorfindelio
209 Posts
On October 05 2023 22:22 Durnuu wrote: Geez can someone buff banelings already, they look so weak You do realize that ZvT (which was never an issue below the top 10 players, and even then it's debatable) is infinitely harder for Zergs on the ladder now, right? The baneling nerfs, Cyclone buffs--all of that makes getting into the mid-game in a good position economically with good creep exponentially harder. Granted, ghosts were nerfed, but it's not like you're spamming Serral v Maru endgames against normal humans. So sure, if you think that the greatest, or top 3 greatest players of all-time at a historic level of dominance struggling to close out games where he's been in clear positions of strength doesn't translate to something else for mere mortals, whatever. Good patch for you. | ||
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