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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12974 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-10 11:39:29
October 10 2023 11:36 GMT
#81
On October 10 2023 20:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Can someone please list all the results so far?

(Z)Serral 3-2 (T)Cure
(Z)Serral 2-3 (Z)Solar
(Z)Solar 3-0 (P)Astrea
(Z)Solar 2-3 (P)MaxPax
(P)MaxPax 3-0 (T)Maru
(P)MaxPax 2-3 (Z)Dark

For detailed results (Wiki)World Team League/2023/Winter/Show Matches/1

Team World:
(Z)Serral - out
(P)Astrea - out
(P)MaxPax - out

(T)Clem - Did not play yet
Oliveira - Did not play yet

Team Korea:
(T)Cure - out
(Z)Solar - out
(T)Maru - out

(Z)Dark - current player for team KR
(P)herO - did not play yet
WriterMaru
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
October 10 2023 12:29 GMT
#82
If Dark would ve lost vs MaxPax there, it would be allready Game over for Team KR.
Now I would consider them slightly favoured against the remaining Terrans.
MaxPax
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19368 Posts
October 10 2023 13:31 GMT
#83
On October 10 2023 20:36 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2023 20:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Can someone please list all the results so far?

(Z)Serral 3-2 (T)Cure
(Z)Serral 2-3 (Z)Solar
(Z)Solar 3-0 (P)Astrea
(Z)Solar 2-3 (P)MaxPax
(P)MaxPax 3-0 (T)Maru
(P)MaxPax 2-3 (Z)Dark

For detailed results (Wiki)World Team League/2023/Winter/Show Matches/1

Team World:
(Z)Serral - out
(P)Astrea - out
(P)MaxPax - out

(T)Clem - Did not play yet
Oliveira - Did not play yet

Team Korea:
(T)Cure - out
(Z)Solar - out
(T)Maru - out

(Z)Dark - current player for team KR
(P)herO - did not play yet


Thanks! This is going to be neck and neck!
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Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
October 10 2023 14:18 GMT
#84
If Clem is sent first, I favour Korean. If Oliveira, then World.

For me it all comes down to defensive discipline. In that aspect, trusting the latter more than the former.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
Christof
Profile Joined June 2023
8 Posts
October 10 2023 15:36 GMT
#85
I still dont get why out of all people they bloody used astrea... i mean seriously
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
October 10 2023 15:43 GMT
#86
On October 11 2023 00:36 Christof wrote:
I still dont get why out of all people they bloody used astrea... i mean seriously

Honestly he was most likely going to get crushed no matter when they would use him
MaxPax
Christof
Profile Joined June 2023
8 Posts
October 10 2023 15:47 GMT
#87
Yea sorry i ment why pick astrea over like anyone else tbh.... waste of a spot
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
October 10 2023 16:04 GMT
#88
On October 11 2023 00:47 Christof wrote:
Yea sorry i ment why pick astrea over like anyone else tbh.... waste of a spot


Probably the first name who was available to replace Reynor on the fly. Plus the added name value
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
October 10 2023 16:13 GMT
#89
On October 11 2023 00:47 Christof wrote:
Yea sorry i ment why pick astrea over like anyone else tbh.... waste of a spot

Yea sorry i ment why pick maru over like anyone else tbh.... waste of a spot
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12974 Posts
October 10 2023 16:24 GMT
#90
On October 11 2023 00:47 Christof wrote:
Yea sorry i ment why pick astrea over like anyone else tbh.... waste of a spot

I mean since Reynor was not available there weren’t many foreigners better than Astrea to choose from.
HeroMarine is better offline but he doesn’t like cross server so his results are usually quite poor there. ShoWTimE is not necessarily better than Astrea these days. Other than these two I see no obvious pick
WriterMaru
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
October 10 2023 16:26 GMT
#91
On October 11 2023 01:13 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2023 00:47 Christof wrote:
Yea sorry i ment why pick astrea over like anyone else tbh.... waste of a spot

Yea sorry i ment why pick maru over like anyone else tbh.... waste of a spot


Bluntly put, a total Map score of 1-7 inside 24 hours is pretty bad look for somebody of Maru's calibre. And while I was hoping it would not happen, recent match history looked unfavourable too.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
October 10 2023 19:45 GMT
#92
On October 11 2023 00:47 Christof wrote:
Yea sorry i ment why pick astrea over like anyone else tbh.... waste of a spot


Who's a non Korean that's better than Astrea who's not already in this? Besides Reynor obviously since he forfeited. Maybe showtime and heromarine by a little? Astrea is definitely a top 8 non Korean at this point.
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
October 11 2023 04:47 GMT
#93
On October 11 2023 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2023 00:47 Christof wrote:
Yea sorry i ment why pick astrea over like anyone else tbh.... waste of a spot


Who's a non Korean that's better than Astrea who's not already in this? Besides Reynor obviously since he forfeited. Maybe showtime and heromarine by a little? Astrea is definitely a top 8 non Korean at this point.


Entertainment value of Astrea ? Top 4 at least, if not the best. Strictly by maps played or lost (not considering the tier of the tournaments played), he's only the 12th non-Korean with either Skillous in front of him or even Strange not that far behind.

If he performs well in Code S, I might revise my opinion. Until then, I'll keep it at that.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
October 11 2023 06:00 GMT
#94
Astrea is #12 non-Korean on Alligulac:
1 Serral
2 Clem
3 MaxPax
4 Reynor
5 Heromarine
6 Oliveira
7 Showtime
8 Lambo
9 Elazer
10 Spirit
11 Skillous
12 Astrea
There would have been plenty of options, but I would gues the organisers were also looking at representation of races and regions
MaxPax
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17738 Posts
October 11 2023 10:38 GMT
#95
with the way Maru played there are plenty of koreans that would've been better choices too lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17738 Posts
October 11 2023 10:41 GMT
#96
here's the Liquipedia page for this, next match is Oct 23rd

(Wiki)World Team League/2023/Winter/Show Matches/1
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7289 Posts
October 11 2023 10:57 GMT
#97
I would rate Showtime above Astrea but Astra is still a solid choice overall and in the short amount of time. Please stop hating on this and just enjoy
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
October 12 2023 05:02 GMT
#98
On October 11 2023 19:57 Harris1st wrote:
I would rate Showtime above Astrea but Astra is still a solid choice overall and in the short amount of time. Please stop hating on this and just enjoy


Prioritizing best expected level above ensuring regional representing, I do not see what is wrong there. If anything, the prize "split" is the bigger problem. If the losers had a share of it, then it would be less of a factor. Winner takes all ? Stack the deck.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7289 Posts
October 12 2023 08:59 GMT
#99
On October 12 2023 14:02 Philippe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2023 19:57 Harris1st wrote:
I would rate Showtime above Astrea but Astra is still a solid choice overall and in the short amount of time. Please stop hating on this and just enjoy


Prioritizing best expected level above ensuring regional representing, I do not see what is wrong there. If anything, the prize "split" is the bigger problem. If the losers had a share of it, then it would be less of a factor. Winner takes all ? Stack the deck.


I don't think regional representation was a thing. After all, Astrea filled in for Reynor, so NA was without representation from the start.
I just think they probably asked 2-3 people on short notice after Reynor couldn't participate and Astrea was the first top pro that said "yes let's do it"
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12974 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-12 09:27:31
October 12 2023 09:25 GMT
#100
On October 12 2023 17:59 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2023 14:02 Philippe wrote:
On October 11 2023 19:57 Harris1st wrote:
I would rate Showtime above Astrea but Astra is still a solid choice overall and in the short amount of time. Please stop hating on this and just enjoy


Prioritizing best expected level above ensuring regional representing, I do not see what is wrong there. If anything, the prize "split" is the bigger problem. If the losers had a share of it, then it would be less of a factor. Winner takes all ? Stack the deck.


I don't think regional representation was a thing. After all, Astrea filled in for Reynor, so NA was without representation from the start.
I just think they probably asked 2-3 people on short notice after Reynor couldn't participate and Astrea was the first top pro that said "yes let's do it"

Plus Astrea is in Korea afaik (he has qualified for code S) so he can play without ping which is a huge advantage.
It's not like there was another foreign player who had a good shot at beating a player from team KR cross server
Even offline, ShoWTimE and HeroMarine (who are the only two players with a real gap in terms of aligulac rating compared to Astrea, Spirit, Elazer, Lambo are closer within Astrea range) are not favored in bo5 vs players from team KR.
WriterMaru
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