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Starcloud
Profile Joined September 2018
138 Posts
July 23 2023 16:55 GMT
#167
On July 24 2023 01:46 Antithesis wrote:
Congraluations to Serral!

Yeah, Serral's present level of play is ridiculous even by his own standards. Systematic and meticulous, and sometimes virtually flawless. You could see the frustration in Cure's face. None of the other current top-tier zergs, neither Dark nor Reynor, can make Cure look like he's running against a wall.


Yeah, it looked so effortless to Serral, that it seemed that he was "cheating" somehow. Even at the end when he won, he just smiled and was so relaxed. Prolly didnt have to bring even near 100% today. And that is really scary. He makes many other pros look like a ladder scrubs in comparison.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-23 17:08:56
July 23 2023 17:05 GMT
#168
On July 24 2023 01:46 Antithesis wrote:
Congraluations to Serral!

Yeah, Serral's present level of play is ridiculous even by his own standards. Systematic and meticulous, and sometimes virtually flawless. You could see the frustration in Cure's face. None of the other current top-tier zergs, neither Dark nor Reynor, can make Cure look like he's running against a wall.

Isn’t Serral something ridiculous now like 50/60-5 or something since Katowice?

Guy just doesn’t really have any weaknesses seemingly, a pretty scary prospect right now indeed. His ZvT looks off the charts and isn’t even his most dominant matchup

GGWP and a pretty fun wee tournament, stream issues aside!

Really interested to see if Cure brings this level when Code S resumes
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden819 Posts
July 23 2023 17:09 GMT
#169
On July 24 2023 02:05 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2023 01:46 Antithesis wrote:
Congraluations to Serral!

Yeah, Serral's present level of play is ridiculous even by his own standards. Systematic and meticulous, and sometimes virtually flawless. You could see the frustration in Cure's face. None of the other current top-tier zergs, neither Dark nor Reynor, can make Cure look like he's running against a wall.

Isn’t Serral something ridiculous now like 50/60-5 or something since Katowice?

GGWP and a pretty fun wee tournament, stream issues aside


Serrals stats on Aligulac since Katowice:

Under these filters, Serral is 160–27 (85.56%) in games and 69–3 (95.83%) in matches.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
July 23 2023 17:12 GMT
#170
On July 24 2023 02:09 Kreuger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2023 02:05 WombaT wrote:
On July 24 2023 01:46 Antithesis wrote:
Congraluations to Serral!

Yeah, Serral's present level of play is ridiculous even by his own standards. Systematic and meticulous, and sometimes virtually flawless. You could see the frustration in Cure's face. None of the other current top-tier zergs, neither Dark nor Reynor, can make Cure look like he's running against a wall.

Isn’t Serral something ridiculous now like 50/60-5 or something since Katowice?

GGWP and a pretty fun wee tournament, stream issues aside


Serrals stats on Aligulac since Katowice:

Under these filters, Serral is 160–27 (85.56%) in games and 69–3 (95.83%) in matches.

That’s obscene
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33559 Posts
July 23 2023 17:28 GMT
#171
On July 24 2023 02:09 Kreuger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2023 02:05 WombaT wrote:
On July 24 2023 01:46 Antithesis wrote:
Congraluations to Serral!

Yeah, Serral's present level of play is ridiculous even by his own standards. Systematic and meticulous, and sometimes virtually flawless. You could see the frustration in Cure's face. None of the other current top-tier zergs, neither Dark nor Reynor, can make Cure look like he's running against a wall.

Isn’t Serral something ridiculous now like 50/60-5 or something since Katowice?

GGWP and a pretty fun wee tournament, stream issues aside


Serrals stats on Aligulac since Katowice:

Under these filters, Serral is 160–27 (85.56%) in games and 69–3 (95.83%) in matches.


Yeah it's a pretty sick stretch for Serral, prolly the most dominant he's looked since like... Mid/late 2021?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden819 Posts
July 23 2023 17:51 GMT
#172
Crowning this run with a win at gamers8 would make it even more ridicoulus
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
July 23 2023 17:58 GMT
#173
Goat Serral destroying the field as usual

There’s a reason why Serral doesn’t need to waste his time with b tier GSL

User was temp banned for this post.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7088 Posts
July 23 2023 19:08 GMT
#174
On July 24 2023 02:58 TossHeroes wrote:
Goat Serral destroying the field as usual

There’s a reason why Serral doesn’t need to waste his time with b tier GSL


You know, you can be a fan of Serrals and still be respectful right? It is possible. Ive seen it
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
July 23 2023 20:19 GMT
#175
Very interesting considering how much everyone has been hyping Cure right now after his GSL performance. GG to Serral. Beating all 3 races in the quarter-semi-final always feels good.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
July 23 2023 20:40 GMT
#176
On July 24 2023 05:19 Gescom wrote:
Very interesting considering how much everyone has been hyping Cure right now after his GSL performance. GG to Serral. Beating all 3 races in the quarter-semi-final always feels good.

Well he delivered beating Classic and Dark, I did not expect him to beat Serral, even less so cross server
Congrats Serral, on top of the world atm
WriterMaru
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
July 23 2023 21:43 GMT
#177
On July 24 2023 05:19 Gescom wrote:
Very interesting considering how much everyone has been hyping Cure right now after his GSL performance. GG to Serral. Beating all 3 races in the quarter-semi-final always feels good.

Fairly so and way the bracket worked out think you saw the two best performers this particular tourney meet in the grand finals

Outside of Mary playing his absolute best I mean who’s taking Serral out TvZ when he’s playing like he did in the finals?

Cure’s looking really good lately for sure and he’s got a lot of different stuff in his locker too, compared to say Byun who can give stellar TvZ clinics but if his relentless aggression fails he can run out of steam
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1149 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-24 01:36:49
July 24 2023 01:29 GMT
#178
ggs. Serral looked unbreakable there

On July 24 2023 06:43 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2023 05:19 Gescom wrote:
Very interesting considering how much everyone has been hyping Cure right now after his GSL performance. GG to Serral. Beating all 3 races in the quarter-semi-final always feels good.

Fairly so and way the bracket worked out think you saw the two best performers this particular tourney meet in the grand finals

Outside of Mary playing his absolute best I mean who’s taking Serral out TvZ when he’s playing like he did in the finals?

Cure’s looking really good lately for sure and he’s got a lot of different stuff in his locker too, compared to say Byun who can give stellar TvZ clinics but if his relentless aggression fails he can run out of steam


I don't think there is any terran who can take him out in a bo7 finals (not even Maru). your only chance is to kill him in the earlier rounds. I'd still throw a cheeky bet on GuMiho like aye. he has upset Serral numerous times before in bo3s. sometimes he goes super saiyan with the drops and parade pushes. same with Cure and and ByuN. playing at their best, I think they can bring it to him in a bo3. vs terran, Serral seems to be at his weakest in the first 2 sets of a series, and then tightens up the longer the series goes on

you can expect all these top terrans to burn bright against zerg for 2 or 3 sets, then exhaustion sets in and it becomes impossible
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-24 03:23:23
July 24 2023 03:20 GMT
#179
On July 24 2023 10:29 SHODAN wrote:
ggs. Serral looked unbreakable there

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2023 06:43 WombaT wrote:
On July 24 2023 05:19 Gescom wrote:
Very interesting considering how much everyone has been hyping Cure right now after his GSL performance. GG to Serral. Beating all 3 races in the quarter-semi-final always feels good.

Fairly so and way the bracket worked out think you saw the two best performers this particular tourney meet in the grand finals

Outside of Mary playing his absolute best I mean who’s taking Serral out TvZ when he’s playing like he did in the finals?

Cure’s looking really good lately for sure and he’s got a lot of different stuff in his locker too, compared to say Byun who can give stellar TvZ clinics but if his relentless aggression fails he can run out of steam


I don't think there is any terran who can take him out in a bo7 finals (not even Maru). your only chance is to kill him in the earlier rounds. I'd still throw a cheeky bet on GuMiho like aye. he has upset Serral numerous times before in bo3s. sometimes he goes super saiyan with the drops and parade pushes. same with Cure and and ByuN. playing at their best, I think they can bring it to him in a bo3. vs terran, Serral seems to be at his weakest in the first 2 sets of a series, and then tightens up the longer the series goes on

you can expect all these top terrans to burn bright against zerg for 2 or 3 sets, then exhaustion sets in and it becomes impossible

Aye it’s like the opposite of Protoss players for the past while in PvZ with Serral. Bo3s yeah they can pull it off but that drops off with Bo5s, 7s etc.

Much less daunting to prep one sneaky fast one, play out of your skin one other game and the beast is slain than pulling it off 4 times

Actually was Aligulacing and Gumigod does have a better record than many against Serral, perhaps he’s the man to do it
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1149 Posts
July 24 2023 05:13 GMT
#180
On July 24 2023 12:20 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2023 10:29 SHODAN wrote:
ggs. Serral looked unbreakable there

On July 24 2023 06:43 WombaT wrote:
On July 24 2023 05:19 Gescom wrote:
Very interesting considering how much everyone has been hyping Cure right now after his GSL performance. GG to Serral. Beating all 3 races in the quarter-semi-final always feels good.

Fairly so and way the bracket worked out think you saw the two best performers this particular tourney meet in the grand finals

Outside of Mary playing his absolute best I mean who’s taking Serral out TvZ when he’s playing like he did in the finals?

Cure’s looking really good lately for sure and he’s got a lot of different stuff in his locker too, compared to say Byun who can give stellar TvZ clinics but if his relentless aggression fails he can run out of steam


I don't think there is any terran who can take him out in a bo7 finals (not even Maru). your only chance is to kill him in the earlier rounds. I'd still throw a cheeky bet on GuMiho like aye. he has upset Serral numerous times before in bo3s. sometimes he goes super saiyan with the drops and parade pushes. same with Cure and and ByuN. playing at their best, I think they can bring it to him in a bo3. vs terran, Serral seems to be at his weakest in the first 2 sets of a series, and then tightens up the longer the series goes on

you can expect all these top terrans to burn bright against zerg for 2 or 3 sets, then exhaustion sets in and it becomes impossible

Aye it’s like the opposite of Protoss players for the past while in PvZ with Serral. Bo3s yeah they can pull it off but that drops off with Bo5s, 7s etc.

Much less daunting to prep one sneaky fast one, play out of your skin one other game and the beast is slain than pulling it off 4 times

Actually was Aligulacing and Gumigod does have a better record than many against Serral, perhaps he’s the man to do it


if nothing else, the Gumigod plays confidently against Serral and confidence goes a long way, whereas ByuN seems too intimidated to realistically pull it off. if Serral is the Undertaker, GuMiho is Mankind ready to break his neck for our entertainment: being choke-slammed through a steel cage, breaking all his teeth in the process, and still having the balls to reach for a bag full of steel tacks in game 2. feels like it's been a while since I saw any terrans try to test Serral with a super crazy hellbat all-in or double battlecruiser rush. he does tend to play greedy from time to time, so maybe that's what you need to get a leg up in a boX. anything to avoid back-to-back exhaust plays multiple games in a row and driving yourself mentally insane in the process
Herringbone
Profile Joined February 2023
33 Posts
July 24 2023 06:07 GMT
#181
He's the greatest. And I think he's better then ever.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7088 Posts
July 24 2023 10:48 GMT
#182
The playerpool of this tournament and Gamers8 is like 90% identical. Let's see if the results will be as well.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-24 13:53:55
July 24 2023 13:36 GMT
#183
On July 24 2023 19:48 Harris1st wrote:

The playerpool of this tournament and Gamers8 is like 90% identical. Let's see if the results will be as well.

AFAIK the format hasn't been announced yet, I'm guessing it will be group stage into playoffs but who knows.Something like a single elim bracket the whole way or double elim could alter the results a lot.

It's hard to see Serral losing a non ZvZ, and even in ZvZ Serral looks half a step ahead of everyone else. SC2 is volatile though, and Dark or Reynor could easily knock Serral out.

I'm curious to see how well Cure does at Gamers8. I don't think he lived up to the hype at ESL Summer despite looking amazing in the leadup, though to be fair he was a victim of Gumigod's rampage.

Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
July 24 2023 14:12 GMT
#184
On July 24 2023 22:36 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2023 19:48 Harris1st wrote:

The playerpool of this tournament and Gamers8 is like 90% identical. Let's see if the results will be as well.

AFAIK the format hasn't been announced yet, I'm guessing it will be group stage into playoffs but who knows.Something like a single elim bracket the whole way or double elim could alter the results a lot.

It's hard to see Serral losing a non ZvZ, and even in ZvZ Serral looks half a step ahead of everyone else. SC2 is volatile though, and Dark or Reynor could easily knock Serral out.

I'm curious to see how well Cure does at Gamers8. I don't think he lived up to the hype at ESL Summer despite looking amazing in the leadup, though to be fair he was a victim of Gumigod's rampage.


Rare you see a proper single elim gauntlet these days, I wonder if they might go with something like that, or a straight double elim to differentiate the tournament?

There’s pluses and minuses to both. Groups into single or even double elim generally keep the top dogs from getting sniped and generally deliver the big big matchups in the latter stages. But ‘one mistake and you’re out’ does aid itself to upsets and make the early stages more exciting

A lot of things I’m curious about with it really, will it be considered IEM/Blizzcon levels of prestige or WESG (at least for the Western audience)?

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
EmoBacon
Profile Blog Joined February 2018
41 Posts
July 25 2023 20:34 GMT
#185
Does anyone know where i can find the last part of the dark vs cure on gresvan game? the matcherino vod cut out and the rest is no where to be found, I don't mind if it's korean casting thank you.
SnoopySC2
Profile Joined May 2012
United States46 Posts
July 25 2023 22:18 GMT
#186
On July 26 2023 05:34 EmoBacon wrote:
Does anyone know where i can find the last part of the dark vs cure on gresvan game? the matcherino vod cut out and the rest is no where to be found, I don't mind if it's korean casting thank you.

The Gresvan game starts at around the 03:56:30 mark - https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/105050929
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