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Kashim
Poland1085 Posts
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Beelzebub1
1003 Posts
On July 24 2023 01:15 JJH777 wrote: Cure seems pretty dead to me. Down 1-3 and the last game Serral won was one sided despite some stellar trades from him early on. At one point the resources lost tab was shown and it was 3500 for Cure vs 6.5k for Serral and yet Serral was still ahead in every way. Bases, army and worker supply, tech. Seems like he's just unbeatable ZvT. Odd that the other top Zergs only seem 50-50 in it. Yea I feel the same way, I wanna scream OP but then I watch any other Zerg besides Serral play against Cure and it seems like a perfectly balanced MU. Kind of like watching Maru play TvZ, he makes Terran look so damn imbalanced in the match up. Serral and Maru and such really are just special cream of the crop players, hardly ever making a mistake. | ||
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-KG-
Denmark1203 Posts
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JJH777
United States4373 Posts
On July 24 2023 01:22 Beelzebub1 wrote: Yea I feel the same way, I wanna scream OP but then I watch any other Zerg besides Serral play against Cure and it seems like a perfectly balanced MU. Kind of like watching Maru play TvZ, he makes Terran look so damn imbalanced in the match up. Serral and Maru and such really are just special cream of the crop players, hardly ever making a mistake. This current run is the most impressive Serral's ever been imo and is the first time the things his fans like to say about him has actually been true. Everytime someone points out how much Zerg has won since 2018 it's inevitable that a Serral fan corrects Zerg to Serral*. Despite Zerg still winning the most even without his wins counted and that the large majority of Serral's wins being at times where Zerg was doing extremely well. A zerg 100% still would have won Blizzcon 18, IEM 22 and many of Serral's other wins with or without him around. At this moment though it does seem like Zerg performance in ZvT would take a nosedive without him around. Ragnarok would have gotten bopped here and Dark already lost today. Of course this may just be because Rogue retired. Who knows how this year would be going with him around. | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden610 Posts
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Antithesis
Germany1070 Posts
Yeah, Serral's present level of play is ridiculous even by his own standards. Systematic and meticulous, and sometimes virtually flawless. You could see the frustration in Cure's face. None of the other current top-tier zergs, neither Dark nor Reynor, can make Cure look like he's running against a wall. | ||
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Starcloud
137 Posts
On July 24 2023 01:46 Antithesis wrote: Congraluations to Serral! Yeah, Serral's present level of play is ridiculous even by his own standards. Systematic and meticulous, and sometimes virtually flawless. You could see the frustration in Cure's face. None of the other current top-tier zergs, neither Dark nor Reynor, can make Cure look like he's running against a wall. Yeah, it looked so effortless to Serral, that it seemed that he was "cheating" somehow. Even at the end when he won, he just smiled and was so relaxed. Prolly didnt have to bring even near 100% today. And that is really scary. He makes many other pros look like a ladder scrubs in comparison. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23317 Posts
On July 24 2023 01:46 Antithesis wrote: Congraluations to Serral! Yeah, Serral's present level of play is ridiculous even by his own standards. Systematic and meticulous, and sometimes virtually flawless. You could see the frustration in Cure's face. None of the other current top-tier zergs, neither Dark nor Reynor, can make Cure look like he's running against a wall. Isn’t Serral something ridiculous now like 50/60-5 or something since Katowice? Guy just doesn’t really have any weaknesses seemingly, a pretty scary prospect right now indeed. His ZvT looks off the charts and isn’t even his most dominant matchup GGWP and a pretty fun wee tournament, stream issues aside! Really interested to see if Cure brings this level when Code S resumes | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden610 Posts
On July 24 2023 02:05 WombaT wrote: Isn’t Serral something ridiculous now like 50/60-5 or something since Katowice? GGWP and a pretty fun wee tournament, stream issues aside Serrals stats on Aligulac since Katowice: Under these filters, Serral is 160–27 (85.56%) in games and 69–3 (95.83%) in matches. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23317 Posts
On July 24 2023 02:09 Kreuger wrote: Serrals stats on Aligulac since Katowice: Under these filters, Serral is 160–27 (85.56%) in games and 69–3 (95.83%) in matches. That’s obscene | ||
Waxangel
United States32986 Posts
On July 24 2023 02:09 Kreuger wrote: Serrals stats on Aligulac since Katowice: Under these filters, Serral is 160–27 (85.56%) in games and 69–3 (95.83%) in matches. Yeah it's a pretty sick stretch for Serral, prolly the most dominant he's looked since like... Mid/late 2021? | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden610 Posts
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TossHeroes
281 Posts
There’s a reason why Serral doesn’t need to waste his time with b tier GSL User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6657 Posts
On July 24 2023 02:58 TossHeroes wrote: Goat Serral destroying the field as usual There’s a reason why Serral doesn’t need to waste his time with b tier GSL You know, you can be a fan of Serrals and still be respectful right? It is possible. Ive seen it | ||
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Gescom
Canada3305 Posts
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Poopi
France12750 Posts
On July 24 2023 05:19 Gescom wrote: Very interesting considering how much everyone has been hyping Cure right now after his GSL performance. GG to Serral. Beating all 3 races in the quarter-semi-final always feels good. Well he delivered beating Classic and Dark, I did not expect him to beat Serral, even less so cross server Congrats Serral, on top of the world atm | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23317 Posts
On July 24 2023 05:19 Gescom wrote: Very interesting considering how much everyone has been hyping Cure right now after his GSL performance. GG to Serral. Beating all 3 races in the quarter-semi-final always feels good. Fairly so and way the bracket worked out think you saw the two best performers this particular tourney meet in the grand finals Outside of Mary playing his absolute best I mean who’s taking Serral out TvZ when he’s playing like he did in the finals? Cure’s looking really good lately for sure and he’s got a lot of different stuff in his locker too, compared to say Byun who can give stellar TvZ clinics but if his relentless aggression fails he can run out of steam | ||
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1060 Posts
On July 24 2023 06:43 WombaT wrote: Fairly so and way the bracket worked out think you saw the two best performers this particular tourney meet in the grand finals Outside of Mary playing his absolute best I mean who’s taking Serral out TvZ when he’s playing like he did in the finals? Cure’s looking really good lately for sure and he’s got a lot of different stuff in his locker too, compared to say Byun who can give stellar TvZ clinics but if his relentless aggression fails he can run out of steam I don't think there is any terran who can take him out in a bo7 finals (not even Maru). your only chance is to kill him in the earlier rounds. I'd still throw a cheeky bet on GuMiho like aye. he has upset Serral numerous times before in bo3s. sometimes he goes super saiyan with the drops and parade pushes. same with Cure and and ByuN. playing at their best, I think they can bring it to him in a bo3. vs terran, Serral seems to be at his weakest in the first 2 sets of a series, and then tightens up the longer the series goes on you can expect all these top terrans to burn bright against zerg for 2 or 3 sets, then exhaustion sets in and it becomes impossible | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23317 Posts
On July 24 2023 10:29 SHODAN wrote: ggs. Serral looked unbreakable there I don't think there is any terran who can take him out in a bo7 finals (not even Maru). your only chance is to kill him in the earlier rounds. I'd still throw a cheeky bet on GuMiho like aye. he has upset Serral numerous times before in bo3s. sometimes he goes super saiyan with the drops and parade pushes. same with Cure and and ByuN. playing at their best, I think they can bring it to him in a bo3. vs terran, Serral seems to be at his weakest in the first 2 sets of a series, and then tightens up the longer the series goes on you can expect all these top terrans to burn bright against zerg for 2 or 3 sets, then exhaustion sets in and it becomes impossible Aye it’s like the opposite of Protoss players for the past while in PvZ with Serral. Bo3s yeah they can pull it off but that drops off with Bo5s, 7s etc. Much less daunting to prep one sneaky fast one, play out of your skin one other game and the beast is slain than pulling it off 4 times Actually was Aligulacing and Gumigod does have a better record than many against Serral, perhaps he’s the man to do it | ||
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1060 Posts
On July 24 2023 12:20 WombaT wrote: Aye it’s like the opposite of Protoss players for the past while in PvZ with Serral. Bo3s yeah they can pull it off but that drops off with Bo5s, 7s etc. Much less daunting to prep one sneaky fast one, play out of your skin one other game and the beast is slain than pulling it off 4 times Actually was Aligulacing and Gumigod does have a better record than many against Serral, perhaps he’s the man to do it if nothing else, the Gumigod plays confidently against Serral and confidence goes a long way, whereas ByuN seems too intimidated to realistically pull it off. if Serral is the Undertaker, GuMiho is Mankind ready to break his neck for our entertainment: being choke-slammed through a steel cage, breaking all his teeth in the process, and still having the balls to reach for a bag full of steel tacks in game 2. feels like it's been a while since I saw any terrans try to test Serral with a super crazy hellbat all-in or double battlecruiser rush. he does tend to play greedy from time to time, so maybe that's what you need to get a leg up in a boX. anything to avoid back-to-back exhaust plays multiple games in a row and driving yourself mentally insane in the process | ||
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