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[Page 23] Balance whining will be aggressively moderated

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Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
February 11 2023 13:34 GMT
#161
Sad for Juanito he was so close...

@Wax: What do you mean about Clem? I must have missed it while on another stream.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6934 Posts
February 11 2023 13:34 GMT
#162
On February 11 2023 22:33 Acrofales wrote:
I don't see how the second vs third seed matters much. The third seed don't look worse.


For Serral it does. No Zerg and especially no Dark
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 11 2023 13:35 GMT
#163
On February 11 2023 22:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
Oh no, depending on how ESL draws up these brackets, cuz I can never be sure how they do it. But if it's in traditional ABCD format, then I think Reynor, Serral and Maru are all going to end up on the same side of the bracket.

e: assuming Maru takes 1st place in his group.


This sounds good for Protoss aka Hero though .
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 13:36:12
February 11 2023 13:35 GMT
#164
Korea goes 8 out of a possible 11 (12 players total) =72%
Zerg goes 5 out of a possible 7 (8 players total)= 71%

Coincidence? I think not. The cabal powers is larger than people assume
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18035 Posts
February 11 2023 13:36 GMT
#165
On February 11 2023 22:34 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 22:33 Acrofales wrote:
I don't see how the second vs third seed matters much. The third seed don't look worse.


For Serral it does. No Zerg and especially no Dark

Yeah, I guess avoiding even a potential ZvZ vs Dark is pretty big.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 13:37:24
February 11 2023 13:36 GMT
#166
5 Zerg
5 Terran
2 Protoss
For all the terran tears over the patch, they have nothing to complain about
MaxPax
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12889 Posts
February 11 2023 13:37 GMT
#167
Yeah when I spoke to Clem during signing session he seemed a bit nervous about having to beat Cure today, it still seems like he can’t bring up his A game in international offline tournaments :/.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3408 Posts
February 11 2023 13:37 GMT
#168
There is still a chance for them all to be on the same side of the bracket right? Serral-Dark-Reynor-Maru. Then herO has the whole other side of the bracket for himself.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18035 Posts
February 11 2023 13:38 GMT
#169
On February 11 2023 22:37 Poopi wrote:
Yeah when I spoke to Clem during signing session he seemed a bit nervous about having to beat Cure today, it still seems like he can’t bring up his A game in international offline tournaments :/.

I don't think offline is the only problem. Not as if he's beat lots of Korean Terrans online either...
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 11 2023 13:38 GMT
#170
On February 11 2023 22:36 dbRic1203 wrote:
5 Zerg
5 Terran
2 Protoss
For all the terran tears over the patch, they have nothing to complain about


I mean, protoss-wise, it's not shocking that back-to-school Neeb doesn't qualify, so that just left us with hoping for Classic making it 3.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
February 11 2023 13:39 GMT
#171
On February 11 2023 22:37 tigera6 wrote:
There is still a chance for them all to be on the same side of the bracket right? Serral-Dark-Reynor-Maru. Then herO has the whole other side of the bracket for himself.


Fuck! you're right. If they do the seedings in the order I'm thinking of that would put Serral, Dark, Reynor and Maru all on the bottom half of the bracket.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18035 Posts
February 11 2023 13:39 GMT
#172
So, Maru clobbers Lambo and secures first seed here, right? Or is there any chance of an upset?
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 11 2023 13:39 GMT
#173
On February 11 2023 22:38 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 22:37 Poopi wrote:
Yeah when I spoke to Clem during signing session he seemed a bit nervous about having to beat Cure today, it still seems like he can’t bring up his A game in international offline tournaments :/.

I don't think offline is the only problem. Not as if he's beat lots of Korean Terrans online either...


Indeed he got bopped hard by Dark on predictability alone, that 10min push is getting old.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 13:41:05
February 11 2023 13:40 GMT
#174
On February 11 2023 22:39 Acrofales wrote:
So, Maru clobbers Lambo and secures first seed here, right? Or is there any chance of an upset?


No. The most each of them can do is add 2 wins to their map total. Maru already has 7 map wins, so he'll have 9 as long as he beats Lambo. The best Byun and HM can get is 8.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3408 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 13:43:10
February 11 2023 13:41 GMT
#175
On February 11 2023 22:36 dbRic1203 wrote:
5 Zerg
5 Terran
2 Protoss
For all the terran tears over the patch, they have nothing to complain about

3 of them, who arguarble all top 5 Terran in the world, come from the group with 4 top Terran and 2 weaker P/Z. Meanwhile 2 other top Terran (Clem and Cure) got eliminated and a top Zerg (Ragnarok) took their place. Like you cant really say anything about the "balance complain" base on these result.

Edit: But Special did beat 3 Zerg in his group other than Serral, so that might be the case.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 11 2023 13:41 GMT
#176
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 11 2023 13:43 GMT
#177
5 Terrans but everyone knows only one has a shot. That or Byun shows that class is permanent.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
February 11 2023 13:43 GMT
#178
Creator and Bunny with no main stream appearances
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18035 Posts
February 11 2023 13:44 GMT
#179
On February 11 2023 22:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 22:39 Acrofales wrote:
So, Maru clobbers Lambo and secures first seed here, right? Or is there any chance of an upset?


No. The most each of them can do is add 2 wins to their map total. Maru already has 7 map wins, so he'll have 9 as long as he beats Lambo. The best Byun and HM can get is 8.

Yeah, and I guess as long as Byun wins he's guaranteed 2nd. Even if he only goes 2-1 and HM goes 2-0, they tie on mapscore, but Byun won the h2h. Still, beating Classic is not a given.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18035 Posts
February 11 2023 13:44 GMT
#180
On February 11 2023 22:43 Elentos wrote:
Creator and Bunny with no main stream appearances

Well, Creator at least made it through to the Ro12 and will be on the main stage in that match. But Bunny is getting shafted.
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