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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 14:37:59
February 10 2023 14:36 GMT
#101
On February 10 2023 23:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 23:20 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's going to come down to Ragnarok's shaky TvZ to play kingmaker in this group. If he wins outright he advances and Cure is out. If he loses to Cure and beats TIME then I think TIME will be out. Neeb can also ruin TIME's run and save Cure if he beats TIME head to head, but Neeb is out now I don't see anyway he survives.

Noone is out yet, and cure also wouldn't be 100% out if he loses (though he has to win at least a map).
There are theoretical ways yet for a lot of drama.


Neeb needs to beat Dark and TIME 2-0 and he needs both of them to lose all of their remaining matches 0-2 for him to have a chance and he needs Ragnarok to 2-0 Cure.

He basically needs Ragnarok to beast the rest of the way, and he needs Clem to beat Dark.

He's not at 0% but he's basically dead.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 10 2023 14:40 GMT
#102
On February 10 2023 23:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 23:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 10 2023 23:20 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's going to come down to Ragnarok's shaky TvZ to play kingmaker in this group. If he wins outright he advances and Cure is out. If he loses to Cure and beats TIME then I think TIME will be out. Neeb can also ruin TIME's run and save Cure if he beats TIME head to head, but Neeb is out now I don't see anyway he survives.

Noone is out yet, and cure also wouldn't be 100% out if he loses (though he has to win at least a map).
There are theoretical ways yet for a lot of drama.


Neeb needs to beat Dark and TIME 2-0 and he needs both of them to lose all of their remaining matches 0-2 for him to have a chance and he needs Ragnarok to 2-0 Cure.

He basically needs Ragnarok to beast the rest of the way, and he needs Clem to beat Dark.

He's not at 0% but he's basically dead.

Not even that is 100% correct But yeah ofc the likelihood of neeb advancing is very slim
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Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States446 Posts
February 10 2023 14:45 GMT
#103
Really feel like Neeb should have just given up that base after all the scvs he had killed
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33423 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 14:48:07
February 10 2023 14:47 GMT
#104
Wouldn't mind if they just sat around doing the laptop casts for longer during delays. Didn't they do that more in previous events?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 10 2023 14:53 GMT
#105
That was such a bad atack from Neeb, he only needed 1 stalker to focus the SCV building the bunker to win right there, zzz
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
February 10 2023 15:00 GMT
#106
Cure is dead
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 10 2023 15:01 GMT
#107
Terran can take forever to die, but I can't see how Cure comes back in this game.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33423 Posts
February 10 2023 15:03 GMT
#108
I'm a bit concerned about RagnaroK's turtle-busting ability. Cure has a way back into this?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
February 10 2023 15:05 GMT
#109
On February 11 2023 00:03 Waxangel wrote:
I'm a bit concerned about RagnaroK's turtle-busting ability. Cure has a way back into this?

Yep Ragnarok dropped the ball
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
February 10 2023 15:05 GMT
#110
On February 11 2023 00:03 Waxangel wrote:
I'm a bit concerned about RagnaroK's turtle-busting ability. Cure has a way back into this?


If Cure plays as well as he did against Dark, he has a chance.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 10 2023 15:06 GMT
#111
On February 11 2023 00:03 Waxangel wrote:
I'm a bit concerned about RagnaroK's turtle-busting ability. Cure has a way back into this?


I still think he's just taking forever to die, but TvZ isn't my matchup.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
February 10 2023 15:09 GMT
#112
Nah. Cure wasn't ready for the Broods. This is what happens when Broods surprise someone that has no Vikings ready for them. In the game vs Dark, by the time the Broods came out Cure was already ready for them because Dark went Ultralisks first.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
February 10 2023 15:14 GMT
#113
lol Neeb just took down Olivera. Who head to number 1 position?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 10 2023 15:15 GMT
#114
Neeb over time. Big win for Clem there.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
February 10 2023 15:19 GMT
#115
Clem's fate is in his hands now. If he beats Dark he's almost sure to qualify.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States446 Posts
February 10 2023 15:26 GMT
#116
Hydras are so fast now lmao. Theyre zooming off creep
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
February 10 2023 15:27 GMT
#117
I am really enjoying group A. It was already the most competitive group in the tournament on first glance and with Cure here it's even more so.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
February 10 2023 15:27 GMT
#118
On February 11 2023 00:26 Moonerz wrote:
Hydras are so fast now lmao. Theyre zooming off creep


They've evolved so much from how pathetic they were in Wings of Liberty.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Tyrrhus
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands52 Posts
February 10 2023 15:31 GMT
#119
That Ragnarok laugh:')
Tuturuu, team only macro, no micro.
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1122 Posts
February 10 2023 15:34 GMT
#120
On February 10 2023 21:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
That just tilted me. Reynor just broke the meta with that bullshit. It never occured to me that Queens only take up 1/4 of a Drop Overlord, that COMPLETELY changes the timing that you can queen walk, and Overlords can drop creep which eliminates the nerf to transfuse that we had a few patches ago.

He just brought evolved Queen walk back to the meta.


dropperlord queens shutting down mech is nothing new. it's been like this since the start of LotV. there is no safe and secure mech opening.

battlecruisers seemed like a semi-solid opening for a brief spell, while zergs were still figuring out how to deal with it. now it gets deflected and crushed every time by a corruptor timing with queens and roaches. mech can't defend these timings because the sheer amount of zerg units and sustain from queens is insurmountable. maybe if battlecruisers had a cooldown that increased their DPS by 100% for 20 seconds

if you want to play mech and be safe against the queen drop timing, you have to pre-emptively build marine / tank instead of hellions. however, if Z just macros or does anything else, you lose because you built marine tank instead of hellions lol. it's absolutely stupid, but there it is. playing mech vZ is just gambling. the best way to play mech is to play bio 99% of your games and not have a reputation for playing mech like GuMiho does.

this is why the best mech player is, in fact, Byun or Clem
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