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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 25 2022 12:42 GMT
#61
Who's favoured Trap vs. Creator and Dark vs. Rogue?
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
April 25 2022 12:44 GMT
#62
On April 25 2022 21:42 opterown wrote:
Who's favoured Trap vs. Creator and Dark vs. Rogue?

I don't know.
All I know is that we will have a 4:0 finals
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 25 2022 12:46 GMT
#63
Holly shit, hope is still alive!
Congrats to Creator, the biggest baller in all of Starcraft!
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 25 2022 13:01 GMT
#64
On April 25 2022 21:44 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2022 21:42 opterown wrote:
Who's favoured Trap vs. Creator and Dark vs. Rogue?

I don't know.
All I know is that we will have a 4:0 finals


Close enough. But 4-1 seems more likely because: (a) Rogue is Bane - enjoys giving his enemies false hope; or (b) Dark is Joker - enjoys playing with his food.
gg no re thx
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
April 25 2022 14:02 GMT
#65
Protoss ground army looking great....until they face top Zerg with superior army control and tech, Ragnarok has lots of chance to transition into Lurker/Viper during the game on Blackburn, but he sticked with Roach Ravager Lingbane for the entire game, then the ggLord are made too late.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 25 2022 14:04 GMT
#66
On April 25 2022 22:01 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2022 21:44 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 25 2022 21:42 opterown wrote:
Who's favoured Trap vs. Creator and Dark vs. Rogue?

I don't know.
All I know is that we will have a 4:0 finals


Close enough. But 4-1 seems more likely because: (a) Rogue is Bane - enjoys giving his enemies false hope; or (b) Dark is Joker - enjoys playing with his food.


Yes but Creator is Batman... or at least like Robin
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
April 25 2022 14:45 GMT
#67
Such a joy to watch creator's run this season!! Guy has always played with his heart on his sleeve, impossible not to cheer for him especially given his wretched past 9 years. God I hope he makes the final
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
April 25 2022 16:48 GMT
#68
Creator confirmed top 4, that's awesome! Rogue and Dark are the two favorites but one of them is going down so there is still a bit of hope for any of Trap / Creator but we might have another G5L candidate pretty soon
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7298 Posts
April 25 2022 17:26 GMT
#69
If Creator wins Im considering him an honorary royal roader.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
314 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-25 17:32:21
April 25 2022 17:32 GMT
#70
I think trap might have a better shot against rogue than dark. Like maybe 15 percent v rogue and 10 percent v dark.
ImmortalGhost
Profile Joined April 2019
United States57 Posts
April 25 2022 19:17 GMT
#71
I hope Trap can finally clutch a GSL trophy this time round.
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
April 25 2022 20:17 GMT
#72
Creator to end the drought! \0/
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
April 25 2022 20:32 GMT
#73
On April 26 2022 02:32 angry_maia wrote:
I think trap might have a better shot against rogue than dark. Like maybe 15 percent v rogue and 10 percent v dark.

That sound like a difference between a 4-0 and 4-1 to me.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 25 2022 20:32 GMT
#74
Trap is favored against Rogue lol. People still don't recognize how bad Rogue is at ZvP in the last two years?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
April 25 2022 21:05 GMT
#75
On April 26 2022 05:32 Pandain wrote:
Trap is favored against Rogue lol. People still don't recognize how bad Rogue is at ZvP in the last two years?

How about the winrate of PvZ in the GSL finals over the past 7 years?
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SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2226 Posts
April 25 2022 22:27 GMT
#76
On April 26 2022 05:32 Pandain wrote:
Trap is favored against Rogue lol. People still don't recognize how bad Rogue is at ZvP in the last two years?


If you think a non-Zerg is favoured to win any big tournament, at all, you've been living under a rock for, what, the last 6 years?
Cogito, ergo Toss
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-26 00:03:05
April 26 2022 00:00 GMT
#77
On April 26 2022 06:05 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2022 05:32 Pandain wrote:
Trap is favored against Rogue lol. People still don't recognize how bad Rogue is at ZvP in the last two years?

How about the winrate of PvZ in the GSL finals over the past 7 years?


I'm sure Dark will be favored vs either but trap has like a 65% win rate vs rogue in the last two years. That's an insane statistic, and they've played a lot

On April 26 2022 07:27 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2022 05:32 Pandain wrote:
Trap is favored against Rogue lol. People still don't recognize how bad Rogue is at ZvP in the last two years?


If you think a non-Zerg is favoured to win any big tournament, at all, you've been living under a rock for, what, the last 6 years?



That's not what I said.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
April 26 2022 00:16 GMT
#78
On April 26 2022 09:00 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2022 06:05 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 26 2022 05:32 Pandain wrote:
Trap is favored against Rogue lol. People still don't recognize how bad Rogue is at ZvP in the last two years?

How about the winrate of PvZ in the GSL finals over the past 7 years?


I'm sure Dark will be favored vs either but trap has like a 65% win rate vs rogue in the last two years. That's an insane statistic, and they've played a lot

Show nested quote +
On April 26 2022 07:27 SharkStarcraft wrote:
On April 26 2022 05:32 Pandain wrote:
Trap is favored against Rogue lol. People still don't recognize how bad Rogue is at ZvP in the last two years?


If you think a non-Zerg is favoured to win any big tournament, at all, you've been living under a rock for, what, the last 6 years?



That's not what I said.

We are playing the odds that the GSL curse against Protoss far out weighs any statistics supporting Trap. You bring up a great point if this was anything but the GSL finals.
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1237 Posts
April 26 2022 00:51 GMT
#79
On April 26 2022 09:16 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2022 09:00 Pandain wrote:
On April 26 2022 06:05 BisuDagger wrote:
On April 26 2022 05:32 Pandain wrote:
Trap is favored against Rogue lol. People still don't recognize how bad Rogue is at ZvP in the last two years?

How about the winrate of PvZ in the GSL finals over the past 7 years?


I'm sure Dark will be favored vs either but trap has like a 65% win rate vs rogue in the last two years. That's an insane statistic, and they've played a lot

On April 26 2022 07:27 SharkStarcraft wrote:
On April 26 2022 05:32 Pandain wrote:
Trap is favored against Rogue lol. People still don't recognize how bad Rogue is at ZvP in the last two years?


If you think a non-Zerg is favoured to win any big tournament, at all, you've been living under a rock for, what, the last 6 years?



That's not what I said.

We are playing the odds that the GSL curse against Protoss far out weighs any statistics supporting Trap. You bring up a great point if this was anything but the GSL finals.


I don't put much stock in curses (even though they're fun to joke about), my concern for Trap is more how badly he played in his last GSL final against Dark. He went from winning most clashes with Dark in the few months leading up to the finals to looking hopelessly outmatched. Trap has shown some great mental strength and clutch performances in other grand finals (DHM Last Chance against Serral in 2020 and TSL7 against Reynor), but not in a GSL finals.

Trap is also pretty weak to Zerg cheese and I can see Rogue exploiting the hell out of that.

Still, I think Trap could beat Rogue or even Dark. I wouldn't bet on it but I don't think it's super unlikely. But if Trap loses, it'll be a 4-0 or a 4-1.

Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States832 Posts
April 26 2022 02:13 GMT
#80
Excellent play from Creator today wowza. I think in a rematch he could best Rogue with some luck. Otherwise I'm going to have to go with Trap beating either Zerg 4-2
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
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