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[GSL 2022] Code S - Ro10 Group B - Day 2 - Page 2
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
On April 21 2022 19:06 swarminfestor wrote: Why Maru build fourth base closer to DRG's bases? Normally it'd be a good idea because if you expand towards the Zerg it makes your attack distance shorter to the Zerg which as Mech is what you want. Unfortunately, DRG had a good Swarm Host count before Maru was firmly established at that position so it was impossible to build up the defenses he'd need there while Swarm Hosts were pummeling it. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17727 Posts
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tigera6
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Maru giving up on the traditional Bio-Tank-Mines push is just sad to watch. Oh well, he is bound to have shitty GSL season every year anyway, lets hope he can come back strong next season. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
On April 21 2022 19:09 Die4Ever wrote: RIP terran, but I think we all knew that most recent patch wasn't going to fix any of the problems with TvZ I mean Maru is the only consistently legit top Terran out there. He hasn't played particularly well this tournament and has had some tough breaks. So it's not a surprise that when he does poorly, Terran in general does poorly. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On April 21 2022 19:09 Die4Ever wrote: RIP terran, but I think we all knew that most recent patch wasn't going to fix any of the problems with TvZ The current terran problems with TvZ are solely the maps imo | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
Just add it to the list of Zerg dominated tournaments of the last 5 years. | ||
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Durnuu
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darklycid
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
On April 21 2022 19:13 Vindicare605 wrote: Wish I could say that I trusted Trap or Creator to free us from more Zerg domination, but I don't at all. not even close. Just add it to the list of Zerg dominated tournaments of the last 5 years. Let hope that besides Trap and Creator, herO will make magical run winning his first Code S title. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
On April 21 2022 19:16 darklycid wrote: Yeah classic problem, the vZ is problematic for some reason and then tvp swung more towards toss this time which leads to terran underperforming this time (recently tvp swung more often towards terran which led to the tournaments last year with worse toss performance). What kills me though, is that we had 2018-2019 and then Zerg got nerfed like 10x since then and they're STILL winning everything. So let me just ask the general audience. Why would ANYONE consider a title won during those 2 years legitimate if we know NOW that Zerg has received nothing but nerf after nerf from those power levels and are still dominating? We shouldn't right? Not enough people are calling out just how fucking broken Zerg obviously was in 2018 and 2019. I wonder why? It's probably because there were some players there that took advantage of those periods that people don't want to put asterisks next to. | ||
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
On April 21 2022 19:19 Vindicare605 wrote: What kills me though, is that we had 2018-2019 and then Zerg got nerfed like 10x since then and they're STILL winning everything. The thing is, the nerfs weren't that huge. Ravagers and banelings are still untouched, for example, but they kill literally everything on the ground (outside of ZvZ ) | ||
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Durnuu
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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darklycid
3541 Posts
On April 21 2022 19:20 Durnuu wrote: The thing is, the nerfs weren't that huge. Ravagers and banelings are still untouched, for example, but they kill literally everything on the ground (outside of ZvZ )Banelings got some nerfs. | ||
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
On April 21 2022 19:19 Vindicare605 wrote: What kills me though, is that we had 2018-2019 and then Zerg got nerfed like 10x since then and they're STILL winning everything. So let me just ask the general audience. Why would ANYONE consider a title won during those 2 years legitimate if we know NOW that Zerg has received nothing but nerf after nerf from those power levels and are still dominating? We shouldn't right? Not enough people are calling out just how fucking broken Zerg obviously was in 2018 and 2019. I wonder why? It's probably because there were some players there that took advantage of those periods that people don't want to put asterisks next to. Some of us are but there are people like XainOn arguing that zerg was perfectly fine in 2018 even though they started being the strongest race around 2017 and the hydra buff. 2019 reached epic proportions similar to 2012 broodlord infestor and then it was toned down a bit and the mappool / game being figured out favoring zerg overall was the main culprit instead of pure balance. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On April 21 2022 19:19 Vindicare605 wrote: What kills me though, is that we had 2018-2019 and then Zerg got nerfed like 10x since then and they're STILL winning everything. So let me just ask the general audience. Why would ANYONE consider a title won during those 2 years legitimate if we know NOW that Zerg has received nothing but nerf after nerf from those power levels and are still dominating? We shouldn't right? Not enough people are calling out just how fucking broken Zerg obviously was in 2018 and 2019. I wonder why? It's probably because there were some players there that took advantage of those periods that people don't want to put asterisks next to. You forget that there have been times in which Zerg could barely go past minute 8 because of Prisms or that TvZ looked nearly impossibile for Zerg in the lategame at least twice(broken Raven first then the rain of nukes)? I'd suggest to keep this overdramatic tone for your next piace, it would be more appropriate in a theater. As Charoisaur is saying, these maps favor Zerg. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
That isn't true though. We've had the Infestor completely reworked. Queens nerfed like 5-6 times, creep nerfed like 3-4x Broodlords nerfed severely. Just about the only things that WEREN'T touched were the Hydralisk, Lurker, Baneling, Ravager and curiously the Viper. The Viper hasn't been touched in years interestingly even though it still remains a stupidly powerful unit. Zerg has had some pretty severe nerfs over the last 4 years and yet still they dominate consistently. | ||
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