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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
April 18 2022 12:52 GMT
#61
Ragnagod is the GOAT, my friends
Year of MaxPax
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
April 18 2022 12:52 GMT
#62
Maru last terran hope. I for one, i am happy Ragnna advanced!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 18 2022 12:54 GMT
#63
On April 18 2022 21:52 Argonauta wrote:
Maru last terran hope. I for one, i am happy Ragnna advanced!

Last Terran hope who's only hope is that other players do half his work for him.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
April 18 2022 12:54 GMT
#64
On April 18 2022 21:35 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 21:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ryung needs serious coaching about how to play Mech late game vs Zerg. Does he really expect just massing Thors to work at the GSL level? That's the sort of shit that wins games on ladder against Diamond and low Master's Zergs but this doesn't work at Code S.

Mech, in general, doesn't work at a high level


If Maru had taken that game over 2/3rds of the way through when Ryung was already losing. He would have won it.

Ryung for as good as he is in positional play in TvT, played that terribly vs Zerg. Didn't challenge air control, integrated ghosts far too late, didn't add static defense on outlying bases. Didn't use Liberators.

Just bad. It was just bad.

Mech vs Zerg can win vs just about any Zerg depending on the map and that map isn't the worst for it. But it's SUPER fucking hard to play that's why only Maru can really do it. Ryung has no business playing it if that's what his game plan is going to be.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
April 18 2022 12:55 GMT
#65
On April 18 2022 21:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 21:35 Durnuu wrote:
On April 18 2022 21:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ryung needs serious coaching about how to play Mech late game vs Zerg. Does he really expect just massing Thors to work at the GSL level? That's the sort of shit that wins games on ladder against Diamond and low Master's Zergs but this doesn't work at Code S.

Mech, in general, doesn't work at a high level


If Maru had taken that game over 2/3rds of the way through when Ryung was already losing. He would have won it.

Ryung for as good as he is in positional play in TvT, played that terribly vs Zerg. Didn't challenge air control, integrated ghosts far too late, didn't add static defense on outlying bases. Didn't use Liberators.

Just bad. It was just bad.

Mech vs Zerg can win vs just about any Zerg depending on the map and that map isn't the worst for it. But it's SUPER fucking hard to play that's why only Maru can really do it. Ryung has no business playing it if that's what his game plan is going to be.

All I'll say is that there is a reason only Maru has won with mech in the past 3+ years.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 18 2022 13:01 GMT
#66
On April 18 2022 21:55 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 21:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 18 2022 21:35 Durnuu wrote:
On April 18 2022 21:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ryung needs serious coaching about how to play Mech late game vs Zerg. Does he really expect just massing Thors to work at the GSL level? That's the sort of shit that wins games on ladder against Diamond and low Master's Zergs but this doesn't work at Code S.

Mech, in general, doesn't work at a high level


If Maru had taken that game over 2/3rds of the way through when Ryung was already losing. He would have won it.

Ryung for as good as he is in positional play in TvT, played that terribly vs Zerg. Didn't challenge air control, integrated ghosts far too late, didn't add static defense on outlying bases. Didn't use Liberators.

Just bad. It was just bad.

Mech vs Zerg can win vs just about any Zerg depending on the map and that map isn't the worst for it. But it's SUPER fucking hard to play that's why only Maru can really do it. Ryung has no business playing it if that's what his game plan is going to be.

All I'll say is that there is a reason only Maru has won with mech in the past 3+ years.

Well that ain't fair, TY didn't retire that long ago. Even beat Protoss with it.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-18 13:06:24
April 18 2022 13:03 GMT
#67
last note on mech vs Zerg. The only reason Maru breaks that style out is to counter heavy Lurker play that became meta last year. If Zerg isn't going to go for that style, then there isn't much reason to play it vs the other more standard styles.

It's still viable but it's weaker.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
April 18 2022 13:03 GMT
#68
On April 18 2022 22:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 21:55 Durnuu wrote:
On April 18 2022 21:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 18 2022 21:35 Durnuu wrote:
On April 18 2022 21:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ryung needs serious coaching about how to play Mech late game vs Zerg. Does he really expect just massing Thors to work at the GSL level? That's the sort of shit that wins games on ladder against Diamond and low Master's Zergs but this doesn't work at Code S.

Mech, in general, doesn't work at a high level


If Maru had taken that game over 2/3rds of the way through when Ryung was already losing. He would have won it.

Ryung for as good as he is in positional play in TvT, played that terribly vs Zerg. Didn't challenge air control, integrated ghosts far too late, didn't add static defense on outlying bases. Didn't use Liberators.

Just bad. It was just bad.

Mech vs Zerg can win vs just about any Zerg depending on the map and that map isn't the worst for it. But it's SUPER fucking hard to play that's why only Maru can really do it. Ryung has no business playing it if that's what his game plan is going to be.

All I'll say is that there is a reason only Maru has won with mech in the past 3+ years.

Well that ain't fair, TY didn't retire that long ago. Even beat Protoss with it.

This thing got figured out pretty quickly, iirc he lost to even Creator right before BlizzCon and it wasn’t 2022 creator.
I hope Maru 4-0 DRG and herO so we have a terran advancing, as usual Maru stands last for terran
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-18 13:06:47
April 18 2022 13:06 GMT
#69
On April 18 2022 21:54 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 21:52 Argonauta wrote:
Maru last terran hope. I for one, i am happy Ragnna advanced!

Last Terran hope who's only hope is that other players do half his work for him.

If Maru can go 4-0 or 4-1 in the last 2 matches, I think he would get in with strong map difference score.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-18 13:09:44
April 18 2022 13:07 GMT
#70
On April 18 2022 22:03 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On April 18 2022 21:55 Durnuu wrote:
On April 18 2022 21:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 18 2022 21:35 Durnuu wrote:
On April 18 2022 21:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ryung needs serious coaching about how to play Mech late game vs Zerg. Does he really expect just massing Thors to work at the GSL level? That's the sort of shit that wins games on ladder against Diamond and low Master's Zergs but this doesn't work at Code S.

Mech, in general, doesn't work at a high level


If Maru had taken that game over 2/3rds of the way through when Ryung was already losing. He would have won it.

Ryung for as good as he is in positional play in TvT, played that terribly vs Zerg. Didn't challenge air control, integrated ghosts far too late, didn't add static defense on outlying bases. Didn't use Liberators.

Just bad. It was just bad.

Mech vs Zerg can win vs just about any Zerg depending on the map and that map isn't the worst for it. But it's SUPER fucking hard to play that's why only Maru can really do it. Ryung has no business playing it if that's what his game plan is going to be.

All I'll say is that there is a reason only Maru has won with mech in the past 3+ years.

Well that ain't fair, TY didn't retire that long ago. Even beat Protoss with it.

This thing got figured out pretty quickly, iirc he lost to even Creator right before BlizzCon and it wasn’t 2022 creator.
I hope Maru 4-0 DRG and herO so we have a terran advancing, as usual Maru stands last for terran

Bro you're not even close to getting the timeline right on that.

Also even if Maru goes 2-0, 4-0 he has to rely on all the other results working in his favor. All things considered that doesn't seem likely.

E: Actually 2-0, 4-0 should be enough with the remaining matches and the current standings. But he's not guaranteed that after his week 1 performance, that's for sure.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
April 18 2022 13:10 GMT
#71
I love how as soon as we go back to some earlier maps Archon harassment comes back.

More evidence the biggest problem with PvZ in the current meta is the ridiculous Zerg favored maps.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 18 2022 13:11 GMT
#72
On April 18 2022 22:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
I love how as soon as we go back to some earlier maps Archon harassment comes back.

More evidence the biggest problem with PvZ in the current meta is the ridiculous Zerg favored maps.

Not like the most common PvZ opener was nerfed recently
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
April 18 2022 13:12 GMT
#73
On April 18 2022 22:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 22:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
I love how as soon as we go back to some earlier maps Archon harassment comes back.

More evidence the biggest problem with PvZ in the current meta is the ridiculous Zerg favored maps.

Not like the most common PvZ opener was nerfed recently


I don't know what you're talking about. All I saw get nerfed was Void/Shield All ins.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 18 2022 13:13 GMT
#74
On April 18 2022 22:12 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 22:11 Elentos wrote:
On April 18 2022 22:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
I love how as soon as we go back to some earlier maps Archon harassment comes back.

More evidence the biggest problem with PvZ in the current meta is the ridiculous Zerg favored maps.

Not like the most common PvZ opener was nerfed recently


I don't know what you're talking about. All I saw get nerfed was Void/Shield All ins.

Sure, making the unit cost more and take longer to build doesn't affect 2 stargate void openers at all.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
April 18 2022 13:15 GMT
#75
LOOOOOOOOL. As if I can't beat the drum any harder about how important maps are. This is why 4 player maps aren't a thing anymore.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
April 18 2022 13:15 GMT
#76
On April 18 2022 22:13 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 22:12 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 18 2022 22:11 Elentos wrote:
On April 18 2022 22:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
I love how as soon as we go back to some earlier maps Archon harassment comes back.

More evidence the biggest problem with PvZ in the current meta is the ridiculous Zerg favored maps.

Not like the most common PvZ opener was nerfed recently


I don't know what you're talking about. All I saw get nerfed was Void/Shield All ins.

Sure, making the unit cost more and take longer to build doesn't affect 2 stargate void openers at all.


I was being sarcastic.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
April 18 2022 13:15 GMT
#77
Some great games tonight
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 18 2022 13:16 GMT
#78
Four players maps, so fun.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 18 2022 13:16 GMT
#79
Zerg players are just more talented at scouting.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 18 2022 13:18 GMT
#80
tasteless i miss it too
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