EPT[IEM] Katowice 2022 - Semi-finals & Grand Finals - Page 7
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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Poopi
France12887 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:19 Durnuu wrote: Glad to see the patchzergs still going strong 5 years after the baneling buff Don’t think it’s patch, these top zergs are just built different | ||
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Hider
Denmark9392 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:23 Hider wrote: Rewatching that sequence, I think Heromarine thought the same thing we thought at the time. "Ah weak queens i can do a lot of damage with my marines + medivacs" there. But the issue is that the queens on creep (+ one additional queen supported them) can kite the BC's. In hindsight he should have teleported to the main and he could have assisted back and forth with his marine-medivacs (between the 3rd and main Reynor had a very low drone-count and its very plausbile could have killed like 10 drones with the BC + marines bringing him into a favorable position. That said, I still think he would have lost the game regardless. Going mech was simply not the correct decision, but appeared like desperation through the following logic: 1. "I can't win in bio-macro games". 2. I can't win with all-ins anymore. --> Hence I need to mech. Even after he teleported to the 3rd, I have no idea why he didn't move the BC towards the right side edge between the main and the 3rd. He lost like half the HP retreating back across creep. To me it indicates that HM is not that practiced playing BC opener. And against Reynor you are not gonna win when you play a style you are relatively worse at. | ||
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sim999999
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sim999999
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:26 Poopi wrote: Don’t think it’s patch, these top zergs are just built different Sure, the same way 2010 Terrans were simply better  | ||
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Archerylady
277 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:30 sim999999 wrote: I mean its a good thing that there is katowice and the price pool is really great for a 10 years old game with this low viewer count. Sub 20K viewer I wonder how is this even possible I remember viewer counts near 100K 2-3 years ago. Quite a sharp decline. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:31 sim999999 wrote: also z v z is mostly coin flip anyone can win between rogue, reynor and serral It's pure skill, like what Oz said about PvP years ago | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:33 Archerylady wrote: I remember viewer counts near 100K 2-3 years ago. Quite a sharp decline. I don't honestly, unless we were piggy backing of Blizzcon or Katowice other esport streams. But yeah we lost a good 10k average in the last 2 years. The money vs viewers number is actually insane though, good for us  | ||
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sim999999
23 Posts
But yeah we lost a good 10k average in the last 2 years. The money vs viewers number is actually jnsane though It is actually insane how it is financially possible I dont know. Thanks Appollo :d I would not be surprised if tomorrow ESL be like well sc2 has a good run but now it's the end | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:41 sim999999 wrote: It is actually insane how it is financially possible I dont know. Thanks Appollo :d I would not be surprised if tomorrow ESL be like well sc2 has a good run but now it's the end I wouldn't be surprised if prize pools decrease for SC2 in the future but I doubt we're seeing the death of SC2 just yet. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:37 Nakajin wrote: I don't honestly, unless we were piggy backing of Blizzcon or Katowice other esport streams. But yeah we lost a good 10k average in the last 2 years. The money vs viewers number is actually insane though, good for us To be fair the game is in stagnation if not decline, for the past 2 years, so it was to be expected. | ||
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darklycid
3511 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:41 sim999999 wrote: It is actually insane how it is financially possible I dont know. Thanks Appollo :d I would not be surprised if tomorrow ESL be like well sc2 has a good run but now it's the end I mean current meta + e.g. NA viewer Magnets not performing well + in case if this finals somewhat of a bad time slot, I'm also more often than not losing a bit of interest in tournaments (also many players retired that probably took a fan base sort of with them). | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:41 sim999999 wrote: It is actually insane how it is financially possible I dont know. Thanks Appollo :d I would not be surprised if tomorrow ESL be like well sc2 has a good run but now it's the end We're still guarantee for next year, after that... we'll see Edit: I would still take fewer viewers, than the non-stop"Dead game"/ here's my 20 page essay on how to save Starcraft of the mid-2010 in an heartbeat | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
Not that I blame the other casters since they seem to be friends with most of the European players. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On February 27 2022 20:51 Andi_Goldberger wrote: I feel crazy for saying this but I enjoy the roach fest so much more than lurkér viper camping lol 5 games of Viper/Lurker would definitely be frustrating but I don't mind if we get 1 or 2 of those games. | ||
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