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t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
182 Posts
February 27 2022 10:34 GMT
#41
Heromarine will win this and then lose 4-0 in the finals Vs Rogue.
What a cursed reality.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9362 Posts
February 27 2022 10:35 GMT
#42
On February 27 2022 19:31 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2022 19:29 Hider wrote:
If I had to guess it appears that players are just confused as to playing against someone that is so dedicated to to their game-plan like HM. Normally terrans have a fallback plan. E.g. let me kinda try out this attack; if it doesn't work I go back and built my 4th and defend it.

And as a response their opponents think they have time to tech up and drone. Again, Reynor probably didn't need Hive and 85 drones vs a 3-base all in. Seemed like he had a significant lack of banelings after holding of the initial attack and had too much money for him to be able to use.

Reynor is just far less safe than Serral, he is far too greedy whereas Serral tries to play perfect


He has said himself he plays by instincts. And the thing about playing by instincts is that they tend to be based of what usually happens. But usually terrans don't play like Heromarine. My prediction going into this series was that Reynor would have adjusted somewhat based on what he had seen of HM's play prior in the tournament - but besides the very cautious scouting in game 1, it doesn't seem to be the case.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 27 2022 10:35 GMT
#43
On February 27 2022 19:34 t5Fab wrote:
Heromarine will win this and then lose 4-0 in the finals Vs Rogue.
What a cursed reality.

Since you have the sight, are the games at least good?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 27 2022 10:36 GMT
#44
gabe forgot +2 armor...
~~~~~
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9362 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-27 10:39:21
February 27 2022 10:38 GMT
#45
What is better to research first +3 weapon vs + 2 armor
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
February 27 2022 10:38 GMT
#46
On February 27 2022 19:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2022 19:34 t5Fab wrote:
Heromarine will win this and then lose 4-0 in the finals Vs Rogue.
What a cursed reality.

Since you have the sight, are the games at least good?

Not with Rogue.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2949 Posts
February 27 2022 10:39 GMT
#47
I think Reynor should win this now?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3223 Posts
February 27 2022 10:40 GMT
#48
On February 27 2022 19:35 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2022 19:31 Poopi wrote:
On February 27 2022 19:29 Hider wrote:
If I had to guess it appears that players are just confused as to playing against someone that is so dedicated to to their game-plan like HM. Normally terrans have a fallback plan. E.g. let me kinda try out this attack; if it doesn't work I go back and built my 4th and defend it.

And as a response their opponents think they have time to tech up and drone. Again, Reynor probably didn't need Hive and 85 drones vs a 3-base all in. Seemed like he had a significant lack of banelings after holding of the initial attack and had too much money for him to be able to use.

Reynor is just far less safe than Serral, he is far too greedy whereas Serral tries to play perfect


He has said himself he plays by instincts. And the thing about playing by instincts is that they tend to be based of what usually happens. But usually terrans don't play like Heromarine. My prediction going into this series was that Reynor would have adjusted somewhat based on what he had seen of HM's play prior in the tournament - but besides the very cautious scouting in game 1, it doesn't seem to be the case.

When he was playing against Maru, Reynor always go with Overlord speed first and repeatedly sending them into the base to scout exactly what was done and build a counter to that. He just didnt do it in the first 2 games and just kinda looking over HM giant shoulder toward the Final or something.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 27 2022 10:41 GMT
#49
Lurkers have always been my favourite unit since BW but I can certainly see why they're frustrating to play against boy howdy
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
February 27 2022 10:41 GMT
#50
On February 27 2022 19:40 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2022 19:35 Hider wrote:
On February 27 2022 19:31 Poopi wrote:
On February 27 2022 19:29 Hider wrote:
If I had to guess it appears that players are just confused as to playing against someone that is so dedicated to to their game-plan like HM. Normally terrans have a fallback plan. E.g. let me kinda try out this attack; if it doesn't work I go back and built my 4th and defend it.

And as a response their opponents think they have time to tech up and drone. Again, Reynor probably didn't need Hive and 85 drones vs a 3-base all in. Seemed like he had a significant lack of banelings after holding of the initial attack and had too much money for him to be able to use.

Reynor is just far less safe than Serral, he is far too greedy whereas Serral tries to play perfect


He has said himself he plays by instincts. And the thing about playing by instincts is that they tend to be based of what usually happens. But usually terrans don't play like Heromarine. My prediction going into this series was that Reynor would have adjusted somewhat based on what he had seen of HM's play prior in the tournament - but besides the very cautious scouting in game 1, it doesn't seem to be the case.

When he was playing against Maru, Reynor always go with Overlord speed first and repeatedly sending them into the base to scout exactly what was done and build a counter to that. He just didnt do it in the first 2 games and just kinda looking over HM giant shoulder toward the Final or something.

He went overlord speed and saw everything in game 1.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9362 Posts
February 27 2022 10:42 GMT
#51
Was the secret just for reynor to build hydras before teching to tier 3 and then spending his money? If that's the case then I assume Reynor should be able to easily reflect Heromarines 3-base timings going forward.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3223 Posts
February 27 2022 10:42 GMT
#52
On February 27 2022 19:41 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2022 19:40 tigera6 wrote:
On February 27 2022 19:35 Hider wrote:
On February 27 2022 19:31 Poopi wrote:
On February 27 2022 19:29 Hider wrote:
If I had to guess it appears that players are just confused as to playing against someone that is so dedicated to to their game-plan like HM. Normally terrans have a fallback plan. E.g. let me kinda try out this attack; if it doesn't work I go back and built my 4th and defend it.

And as a response their opponents think they have time to tech up and drone. Again, Reynor probably didn't need Hive and 85 drones vs a 3-base all in. Seemed like he had a significant lack of banelings after holding of the initial attack and had too much money for him to be able to use.

Reynor is just far less safe than Serral, he is far too greedy whereas Serral tries to play perfect


He has said himself he plays by instincts. And the thing about playing by instincts is that they tend to be based of what usually happens. But usually terrans don't play like Heromarine. My prediction going into this series was that Reynor would have adjusted somewhat based on what he had seen of HM's play prior in the tournament - but besides the very cautious scouting in game 1, it doesn't seem to be the case.

When he was playing against Maru, Reynor always go with Overlord speed first and repeatedly sending them into the base to scout exactly what was done and build a counter to that. He just didnt do it in the first 2 games and just kinda looking over HM giant shoulder toward the Final or something.

He went overlord speed and saw everything in game 1.

yeah, and did not build a counter, instead went full greed like he scouted nothing.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9132 Posts
February 27 2022 10:42 GMT
#53
Ufff it's not a 3 0
You're now breathing manually
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
February 27 2022 10:42 GMT
#54
Kinda felt like HM had a real shot in game 3, wish he'd just cleared the creep in the middle more before sieging on it fully.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9362 Posts
February 27 2022 10:43 GMT
#55
On February 27 2022 19:34 t5Fab wrote:
Heromarine will win this and then lose 4-0 in the finals Vs Rogue.
What a cursed reality.


If this happens I will fund you a betting account.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
February 27 2022 10:44 GMT
#56
Of course it's 2-0 HM and as soon as I wake up Reynor start winning...
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2949 Posts
February 27 2022 10:45 GMT
#57
I'm not sure I am still favouring HM now. He relies o heavily on his pushes and reynor seems to have adapted to the style by now. And I'm not sure HM can stand his ground with a more standard approach.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
February 27 2022 10:46 GMT
#58
It must be that they practice tones of times that Heromarine can read what is in Reynor's mind.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9362 Posts
February 27 2022 10:46 GMT
#59
On February 27 2022 19:42 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2022 19:41 DBooN wrote:
On February 27 2022 19:40 tigera6 wrote:
On February 27 2022 19:35 Hider wrote:
On February 27 2022 19:31 Poopi wrote:
On February 27 2022 19:29 Hider wrote:
If I had to guess it appears that players are just confused as to playing against someone that is so dedicated to to their game-plan like HM. Normally terrans have a fallback plan. E.g. let me kinda try out this attack; if it doesn't work I go back and built my 4th and defend it.

And as a response their opponents think they have time to tech up and drone. Again, Reynor probably didn't need Hive and 85 drones vs a 3-base all in. Seemed like he had a significant lack of banelings after holding of the initial attack and had too much money for him to be able to use.

Reynor is just far less safe than Serral, he is far too greedy whereas Serral tries to play perfect


He has said himself he plays by instincts. And the thing about playing by instincts is that they tend to be based of what usually happens. But usually terrans don't play like Heromarine. My prediction going into this series was that Reynor would have adjusted somewhat based on what he had seen of HM's play prior in the tournament - but besides the very cautious scouting in game 1, it doesn't seem to be the case.

When he was playing against Maru, Reynor always go with Overlord speed first and repeatedly sending them into the base to scout exactly what was done and build a counter to that. He just didnt do it in the first 2 games and just kinda looking over HM giant shoulder toward the Final or something.

He went overlord speed and saw everything in game 1.

yeah, and did not build a counter, instead went full greed like he scouted nothing.


I think he did react, but just didn't seem like he knew the exact timings and tried to greed just a tiny bit too much. I think if baneling speed had been out like 15 seconds earlier and a couple of drones less it would have been enough to easily hold it off.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9362 Posts
February 27 2022 10:48 GMT
#60
On February 27 2022 19:45 Swisslink wrote:
I'm not sure I am still favouring HM now. He relies o heavily on his pushes and reynor seems to have adapted to the style by now. And I'm not sure HM can stand his ground with a more standard approach.


What I hope is that Heromarine has one fake build up his sleeve. E.g. he knows how and when reynor will scout, he makes it look like a 3-base greed build, reynor scouts it, and then switches into a 2-base mass scv pull or some insane shit.
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