EPTOn February 26 2022 21:16 Morbidius wrote:
WoL Terran was good too, but LotV belongs to Zerg.
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On February 26 2022 21:13 darklycid wrote:
End of hots protoss was actually good tho.
On February 26 2022 21:12 Vindicare605 wrote:
See where I say at the end that there's no new blood coming in?
The game has evolved and this is more or less the final state that it's going to stay in, there aren't going to be any GIGANTIC sweeping changes that shake the entire meta up.
So the weaknesses in Protoss design are only going to get worse and worse because this meta isn't going anywhere. There's not going to be any more end of year shake ups that are going to allow Protoss to innovate some new thing that wins them 3-5 tournaments in a row before it gets figured out and they go back to where they were at the end of EVERY major expansion.
On February 26 2022 21:06 Argonauta wrote:
This is the thing I dont buy about this historical argument.... it ignores all the toss champions since WOL until now, It ignores MC, Rain, Zest, herO, Classic, Parting, Dear..
On February 26 2022 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
Here's the problem. Protoss owns the ladder. They dominate GM league. Everyone that plays Protoss on ladder cheeses, that's the best and easiest way to rank up even at the lower pro levels the best players are all cheesy Protoss that can't stand up in a macro game.
Protoss has ground up design flaws that have been there since WoL. Blizzard doesn't want to fix them because they designed the entire race around all inning and hiding tech and being cheeseballs.
As long as the best way to play Protoss on ladder is to just cheese, Protoss isn't going to get much fresh blood because that can only ever get you so far.
On February 26 2022 20:57 EquilasH wrote:
What an unfortunate way for Trap to go out. Really looks like Protoss needs some love at the highest level in PvZ.
What an unfortunate way for Trap to go out. Really looks like Protoss needs some love at the highest level in PvZ.
Here's the problem. Protoss owns the ladder. They dominate GM league. Everyone that plays Protoss on ladder cheeses, that's the best and easiest way to rank up even at the lower pro levels the best players are all cheesy Protoss that can't stand up in a macro game.
Protoss has ground up design flaws that have been there since WoL. Blizzard doesn't want to fix them because they designed the entire race around all inning and hiding tech and being cheeseballs.
As long as the best way to play Protoss on ladder is to just cheese, Protoss isn't going to get much fresh blood because that can only ever get you so far.
This is the thing I dont buy about this historical argument.... it ignores all the toss champions since WOL until now, It ignores MC, Rain, Zest, herO, Classic, Parting, Dear..
See where I say at the end that there's no new blood coming in?
The game has evolved and this is more or less the final state that it's going to stay in, there aren't going to be any GIGANTIC sweeping changes that shake the entire meta up.
So the weaknesses in Protoss design are only going to get worse and worse because this meta isn't going anywhere. There's not going to be any more end of year shake ups that are going to allow Protoss to innovate some new thing that wins them 3-5 tournaments in a row before it gets figured out and they go back to where they were at the end of EVERY major expansion.
End of hots protoss was actually good tho.
WoL Terran was good too, but LotV belongs to Zerg.
End of Wol was Zerg too.
