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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3502 Posts
January 23 2022 15:39 GMT
#141
Well, Dark got his revenge on the lost in Last Chance.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3502 Posts
January 23 2022 15:41 GMT
#142
On January 24 2022 00:39 Pandain wrote:
Dark was significantly more than double Maru's army supply there.

Lots of it was in Swamhost, so they are kinda useless though, but Maru did not have enough unit to defend nevertheless.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
January 23 2022 15:46 GMT
#143
Ona has to feel sorry for the author though. The constant vetoes and shitting on their map has to be infuriating.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
577 Posts
January 23 2022 15:47 GMT
#144
Pride of Altaris 43.1% TvZ, Hardwire 41.6%, all the other new maps sitting at 46-48%, this map pool is just absurd. Zergs screamed bloody murder about Beckett which is at 55.4%, and now there are two maps that are worse in the current pool.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
January 23 2022 15:49 GMT
#145
On January 24 2022 00:47 Athenau wrote:
Pride of Altaris 43.1% TvZ, Hardwire 41.6%, all the other new maps sitting at 46-48%, this map pool is just absurd. Zergs screamed bloody murder about Beckett which is at 55.4%, and now there are two maps that are worse in the current pool.

And suddenly zergs are silent. Ah, the true heroes of balance
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3502 Posts
January 23 2022 15:58 GMT
#146
On January 24 2022 00:49 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2022 00:47 Athenau wrote:
Pride of Altaris 43.1% TvZ, Hardwire 41.6%, all the other new maps sitting at 46-48%, this map pool is just absurd. Zergs screamed bloody murder about Beckett which is at 55.4%, and now there are two maps that are worse in the current pool.

And suddenly zergs are silent. Ah, the true heroes of balance

Hey, Zerg needed a boost to keep their WCS/IEM winning streak at...8? whats wrong with that
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
January 23 2022 16:03 GMT
#147
On January 24 2022 00:58 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2022 00:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 24 2022 00:47 Athenau wrote:
Pride of Altaris 43.1% TvZ, Hardwire 41.6%, all the other new maps sitting at 46-48%, this map pool is just absurd. Zergs screamed bloody murder about Beckett which is at 55.4%, and now there are two maps that are worse in the current pool.

And suddenly zergs are silent. Ah, the true heroes of balance

Hey, Zerg needed a boost to keep their WCS/IEM winning streak at...8? whats wrong with that

Honestly, the most annoying thing about that is that everybody is pretending the maps are equal, they are balanced and the game is fine, all the races are fine. When the game loads on a map and the casters would say - well, this map has a very bad TvZ record, it will be an uphill battle for Terran - it would be better than "yoyoyo, we have here Maru and he's gonna win because he's Maru".
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12992 Posts
January 23 2022 16:05 GMT
#148
On January 24 2022 00:46 deacon.frost wrote:
Ona has to feel sorry for the author though. The constant vetoes and shitting on their map has to be infuriating.

Well if you place a gold base you know the map is starting off wrong. Blackburn is okayish because you can split map
WriterMaru
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 16:06:09
January 23 2022 16:05 GMT
#149
Just to much dept from DPG, you got Zest to snipe Ragnarok in his worst matchup, you got Cure to nullify Scarlett and Lambo zvz and zvp upset potential then you have Rogue and Dark to handle Maru.

GG to them
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3502 Posts
January 23 2022 16:13 GMT
#150
On January 24 2022 01:05 Nakajin wrote:
Just to much dept from DPG, you got Zest to snipe Ragnarok in his worst matchup, you got Cure to nullify Scarlett and Lambo zvz and zvp upset potential then you have Rogue and Dark to handle Maru.

GG to them

Will see how things go when Rogue and Zest gone for military and Cure/Hero has to carry more of the load.
Lokol18
Profile Joined July 2021
51 Posts
January 23 2022 16:25 GMT
#151
The map maker of pride deserves all the flack the map gets. Everyone and their mother knows that a map with a billion bases, including a gold, would be zerg favored (this is not even accounting for the other zerg-favored features, like a long distance from main to main and the different paths of attack). I'm of the opinion that map makers don't get called out more often for making maps that are so overwhelmingly skewed in favor of one race
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
January 23 2022 16:29 GMT
#152
On January 24 2022 01:25 Lokol18 wrote:
The map maker of pride deserves all the flack the map gets. Everyone and their mother knows that a map with a billion bases, including a gold, would be zerg favored (this is not even accounting for the other zerg-favored features, like a long distance from main to main and the different paths of attack). I'm of the opinion that map makers don't get called out more often for making maps that are so overwhelmingly skewed in favor of one race

Well, who selected the map to the map pool? We should aim our anger at the selecting committee and not the author.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
January 23 2022 16:39 GMT
#153
If maps are bad it should be allowed to alter it mid season to do things like remove a gold base/slow zones/rocks etc
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
January 23 2022 16:42 GMT
#154
On January 24 2022 01:39 TentativePanda wrote:
If maps are bad it should be allowed to alter it mid season to do things like remove a gold base/slow zones/rocks etc

We have to summon the ghost of David Kim and alter the reality to update the map at the end of season, imagine changing in the middle.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3502 Posts
January 23 2022 16:46 GMT
#155
On January 24 2022 01:39 TentativePanda wrote:
If maps are bad it should be allowed to alter it mid season to do things like remove a gold base/slow zones/rocks etc

Or before the World Championship starting, let the players/caster/fan to vote on the 7-maps pool to be played there, using all the maps during the current EPT season (Feb-Jan). That way we dont get Pride AND Glittering AND Hardwire on the same map pool.
Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
577 Posts
January 23 2022 17:00 GMT
#156
On January 24 2022 01:42 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2022 01:39 TentativePanda wrote:
If maps are bad it should be allowed to alter it mid season to do things like remove a gold base/slow zones/rocks etc

We have to summon the ghost of David Kim and alter the reality to update the map at the end of season, imagine changing in the middle.

It's amazing how when something is busted in favor of Zerg, we have to wait for ages to get it fixed (*cough* 50/50 super nydus, *cough* broodlord infestor), whereas when Terran or Protoss have something abusable (mass Raven, sentry-immortal) that shit's gone pronto.

Now the game's in maintenance mode, and somehow when the maps get rotated, we still manage to get *this*?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
January 23 2022 17:10 GMT
#157
On January 24 2022 01:13 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2022 01:05 Nakajin wrote:
Just to much dept from DPG, you got Zest to snipe Ragnarok in his worst matchup, you got Cure to nullify Scarlett and Lambo zvz and zvp upset potential then you have Rogue and Dark to handle Maru.

GG to them

Will see how things go when Rogue and Zest gone for military and Cure/Hero has to carry more of the load.

The Chinese commentary did mention that Rogue expressed the desire to go to military early.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
January 23 2022 18:09 GMT
#158
On January 24 2022 02:00 Athenau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2022 01:42 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 24 2022 01:39 TentativePanda wrote:
If maps are bad it should be allowed to alter it mid season to do things like remove a gold base/slow zones/rocks etc

We have to summon the ghost of David Kim and alter the reality to update the map at the end of season, imagine changing in the middle.

It's amazing how when something is busted in favor of Zerg, we have to wait for ages to get it fixed (*cough* 50/50 super nydus, *cough* broodlord infestor), whereas when Terran or Protoss have something abusable (mass Raven, sentry-immortal) that shit's gone pronto.

Now the game's in maintenance mode, and somehow when the maps get rotated, we still manage to get *this*?

Miracles of life Starcraft 2
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2465 Posts
January 24 2022 13:23 GMT
#159
On January 24 2022 02:10 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2022 01:13 tigera6 wrote:
On January 24 2022 01:05 Nakajin wrote:
Just to much dept from DPG, you got Zest to snipe Ragnarok in his worst matchup, you got Cure to nullify Scarlett and Lambo zvz and zvp upset potential then you have Rogue and Dark to handle Maru.

GG to them

Will see how things go when Rogue and Zest gone for military and Cure/Hero has to carry more of the load.

The Chinese commentary did mention that Rogue expressed the desire to go to military early.


I might be retiring soon hearing this bad news.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
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