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- Single-elimination bracket.
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[GSL 2021] Code S - Semi Finals - Day 1
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Pandemona
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Pandemona
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Poll: Dream vs Rogue Rogue Wins (23) Dream Wins (8) 31 total votes Your vote: Dream vs Rogue | ||
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[PkF] Wire
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1689 Posts
Lets go Dream! Dream had one of the best TvZ's back in HOTS, bring it back and SMASH overrated Rogue! | ||
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dbrinker
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edit: actually after looking at aligulac im just gonna smallbet, dream has done better in tvz than i thought User was warned for this post. | ||
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Niravroh
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On April 26 2021 10:06 dbrinker wrote: rogue line opened at -315 and i snap bet it thinking it would rise, now its at -275 so i will probably move down a tax bracket or two if dream takes this series edit: actually after looking at aligulac im just gonna smallbet, dream has done better in tvz than i thought User was warned for this post. Again, Dream doesn't often play against the top tier zergs. Whenever he runs into a Rogue, Dark, Reynor, or Serral he doesn't do too well. Comparatively Rogue's ZvT is a lot lower, but it was against Terrans like Maru and TY. You can't look at just the numbers themselves. | ||
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dbrinker
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On April 26 2021 10:57 Niravroh wrote: Again, Dream doesn't often play against the top tier zergs. Whenever he runs into a Rogue, Dark, Reynor, or Serral he doesn't do too well. Comparatively Rogue's ZvT is a lot lower, but it was against Terrans like Maru and TY. You can't look at just the numbers themselves. yeah i looked at the names and hes taken plenty of series off top8 zergs in smaller tournaments but im not sure how much that matters on GSL stage, some guys just don't pop off for those little online cups and the results can be weird. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On April 26 2021 17:56 Durnuu wrote: Nothing like a good old GSL semifinals to cheer you up after a 24 hours shift May I ask what career you are passionate about enough to work for 24 hours straight? I'm gonna guess medical field? | ||
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Durnuu
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On April 26 2021 18:34 Vindicare605 wrote: May I ask what career you are passionate about enough to work for 24 hours straight? I'm gonna guess medical field? Yup, studying medicine | ||
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Argonauta
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On April 26 2021 18:44 neutralrobot wrote: Didn't Dream get to an SSL finals? I thought he lost to Maru back in the day. It was basically on par with GSL then. Yes that what i though at first he did lose a SSL in 2015 to Maru, but the graphic does say GSL. maybe a supertournament? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On April 26 2021 18:49 Argonauta wrote: Yes that what i though at first he did lose a SSL in 2015 to Maru, but the graphic does say GSL. maybe a supertournament? He lost the most recent Super Tournament to Trap did he not? Yea 3-1 in the Semis.  AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2021/1 | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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swarminfestor
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 26 2021 18:54 swarminfestor wrote: Why Rogue did leave? Dream lost 38 workers. Rogue lost plenty of drones, was stuck on a bad tech, terran had still 2 medevacs and marines, he would have died to the counter attack right away | ||
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tigera6
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On April 26 2021 18:54 swarminfestor wrote: Why Rogue did leave? Dream lost 38 workers. Rogue was going to lose all of his workers as well. | ||
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tigera6
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Vindicare605
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Doesn't have that JinAir team house anymore to work with. | ||
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swarminfestor
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:01 Vindicare605 wrote: This is Rogue's first TvZ of the tournament, I guess it's just really showing that he wasn't as prepared for it as he has been in seasons past. Doesn't have that JinAir team house anymore to work with. What has that to do with anything we've seen so far? That's like trying to make hellbat push work. It didn't work for anyone in the past, but let's try 301415th again, maybe THIS time it will work. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:00 buzz_bender wrote: Rogue! What's with the strats?? I think he could easily win the macro game... not sure why he went with the proxy hatch... Not killing scv that build the bunker is really a mess. | ||
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tigera6
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Germany1608 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:03 swarminfestor wrote: Not killing scv that build the bunker is really a mess. He didn't kill the SCVs building the CC either, so it was like - wtf, rogue? (Edit> i mean right away) It looks like he's memeing because he knows he's the better player, but he's not THAT good to meme around. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:00 buzz_bender wrote: Rogue! What's with the strats?? I think he could easily win the macro game... not sure why he went with the proxy hatch... Well it is oxide so if you're gonna put a clown build anywhere you'd put out on the weakest zerg map | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:03 deacon.frost wrote: That's like trying to make hellbat push work. It didn't work for anyone in the past, but let's try 301415th again, maybe THIS time it will work. Amazing how fast everyone forgets that Clem killed Serral with Helbat pushes not once but twice at IEM Katowice THIS YEAR. If they're good enough to kill Serral, they're good enough to kill whoever you're playing on ladder. | ||
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buzz_bender
445 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:07 Fango wrote: Well it is oxide so if you're gonna put a clown build anywhere you'd put out on the weakest zerg map I'm not sure that's the wisest strategy given that he's one game down. I can understand if he won the first game, but to pull this off is way too risky in Game 2. Now Rogue is 2-0 down... let's see if he can mount a comeback. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:07 Vindicare605 wrote: Amazing how fast everyone forgets that Clem killed Serral with Helbat pushes not once but twice at IEM Katowice THIS YEAR. If they're good enough to kill Serral, they're good enough to kill whoever you're playing on ladder. or maybe Serral just cut corners in those games Zergs usually don't | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:07 Vindicare605 wrote: Amazing how fast everyone forgets that Clem killed Serral with Helbat pushes not once but twice at IEM Katowice THIS YEAR. If they're good enough to kill Serral, they're good enough to kill whoever you're playing on ladder. When they work the last time in GSL? Catching Serral offguard tells us more about him than about the hellbat push | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
In all seriousness, though, he needs to step it up. I'd like to see him go for the macro game next game. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:09 Charoisaur wrote: or maybe Serral just cut corners in those games Zergs usually don't I've seen Inno lose to shitty Ravager rush, that doesn't mean it's good | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:10 [PkF] Wire wrote: Don't worry, Rogue is just executing his now classic "sandbag the first games into a 0-2 so that the opponent lowers his guard". Worked fine vs Zest after all ! In all seriousness, though, he needs to step it up. I'd like to see him go for the macro game next game. Dream can get hyped up, but don't know if it's the right tactic. | ||
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tigera6
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:12 tigera6 wrote: If Dream somehow win 2 more games, and if Maru beat Trap on Thursday, it will be an interesting "grudge" match in the Final as well. So its not that bad if things are down to that. why grudge? | ||
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tigera6
3397 Posts
Dream doesnt like Maru, saying him is not that good tactically, just has good micro. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
 Soubnds like a Rogue thing to do :D | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
e: oh boy nydus | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:16 deacon.frost wrote: Blackburn - shitty roach ravager rush of the gold base? Soubnds like a Rogue thing to do :DIt looks like i was kinda-ish right | ||
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Vindicare605
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swarminfestor
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:20 Vindicare605 wrote: I have to think that Rogue is just not going to show his "normal" strats so that Maru can't see them in case he plays him next. This is just not the way that Rogue usually plays, like at all. I mean, this is very cheesy series, but if you want to hide stuff you normally play default macro, no? Also, Rogue killing someone with nydus sounds almost too natural to me. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:20 Vindicare605 wrote: I have to think that Rogue is just not going to show his "normal" strats so that Maru can't see them in case he plays him next. This is just not the way that Rogue usually plays, like at all. don't think so, it's Rogue he always does weird shit. This time it just didn't work out... well until now, the nydus turned out to be reliable | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:20 Vindicare605 wrote: I have to think that Rogue is just not going to show his "normal" strats so that Maru can't see them in case he plays him next. This is just not the way that Rogue usually plays, like at all. I mean what is there really to hide in non-cheese ZvT openings? the amount of queens he makes? | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:23 Andi_Goldberger wrote: I mean what is there really to hide in non-cheese ZvT openings? the amount of queens he makes? The corners he cuts  | ||
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lolfail9001
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EDIT: So, do we call that "2 maps of mercy given" after all? | ||
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whiterabbit
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On April 26 2021 19:35 Niravroh wrote: Normally GSL is pretty on it, but the production today feels off. First it was that super long ad that felt like it lasted forever. Now it's the break with no timer. Maybe I'm nitpicking, but I've never seen these before in GSL. Ye that super long Afreeca ad was odd. I'd understand if they plugged it at the end of series or something, but mid series was so out of place and no timer was super strange. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:36 SamirDuran wrote: So thisnwill be another rogue winning the championship. Srsly he is unbeatable in a finals game he hasn't played a ZvT finals yet though which I'd say is his weakest matchup | ||
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t5Fab
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I'm not saying he's not good, he's probably the best at what he does, but... god is it annoying to watch. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:39 t5Fab wrote: Rogue is really the player I dislike the most between the top ones. Such an unlikable game style to me. He is the definition of an abuser. I'm not saying he's not good, he's probably the best at what he does, but... god is it annoying to watch. Talk about abusing when Dream builds raxes here. | ||
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Durnuu
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On April 26 2021 19:40 deacon.frost wrote: Talk about abusing when Dream builds raxes here. This is a standard terran macro build though | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
But in the most abusive location on the map Explains why Rogue moved the drone directgly there | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:39 t5Fab wrote: Rogue is really the player I dislike the most between the top ones. Such an unlikable game style to me. He is the definition of an abuser. I'm not saying he's not good, he's probably the best at what he does, but... god is it annoying to watch. hmm I disagree I think it's much more fun to watch a player doing crazy stuff all the time instead of doing standard macro every game. Also why sOs was so fun to watch Also every player is an abuser | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:44 Charoisaur wrote: hmm I disagree I think it's much more fun to watch a player doing crazy stuff all the time instead of doing standard macro every game. Also why sOs was so fun to watch Also every player is an abuser Totally agreed. Also he plays standard too, he's not Hasing his way through | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
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On April 26 2021 19:58 Argonauta wrote: when terran is this heavy in marauders.... isnt it better to tech into hydras instead of corrupters? why kill enemy when enemy kills itself? | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:59 nojok wrote: Rogue took so many bad engagements, can't believe he's not dead. He's also had like 30 more workers for many minutes... | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:58 Argonauta wrote: when terran is this heavy in marauders.... isnt it better to tech into hydras instead of corrupters? killing the medivacs is pretty big | ||
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tigera6
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On April 26 2021 19:59 nojok wrote: Rogue took so many bad engagements, can't believe he's not dead. Rogue out-mined Dream by a base and a half. He can trade terribly and still win. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On April 26 2021 19:59 nojok wrote: Rogue took so many bad engagements, can't believe he's not dead. They weren't decisive enough considering how far behind Dream was in economy basically ever since the Mutas hit him. Rogue was up 2 bases for a long time and then forced him to expand into a scary part of the map that he didn't ever have enough army to defend properly. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:03 Xain0n wrote: If Rogue plays TvZ this way against a stronger Terran there is no bo7 that can save him. Dream is no slouch in TvZ | ||
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serendipitous
Canada195 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:03 Xain0n wrote: If Rogue plays TvZ this way against a stronger Terran there is no bo7 that can save him. Rogue finds a way (nydus) | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4948 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:03 Xain0n wrote: If Rogue plays TvZ this way against a stronger Terran there is no bo7 that can save him. yeah just Maru stronger than Dream. Sadly, is in the other side of the bracket. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:04 Vindicare605 wrote: They weren't decisive enough considering how far behind Dream was in economy basically ever since the Mutas hit him. Rogue was up 2 bases for a long time and then forced him to expand into a scary part of the map that he didn't ever have enough army to defend properly. yeah dream paid his poor early pressure, he had to cut so many defenses to have a decent army on rogue's 5th, which rogue punished well. | ||
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tigera6
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He is not among the best neither, Clem Maru TY Cure Inno Byun are definitely better than him in TvZ. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:09 tigera6 wrote: He is not among the best neither, Clem Maru TY Cure Inno Byun are definitely better than him in TvZ. agree with Clem, Maru, TY - Cure, Inno and Byun are around the same level though imo | ||
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deacon.frost
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Well, Rogue getting served his ego to him | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4948 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:20 deacon.frost wrote: Who's the abuser now? Well, Rogue getting served his ego to himNo , but you see, abusing the abuser is fine | ||
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tigera6
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On April 26 2021 20:18 Charoisaur wrote: agree with Clem, Maru, TY - Cure, Inno and Byun are around the same level though imo Cure and Byun capable of beating Serral, and Inno was having a 70% TvZ winrate at some point. I think they are better than Dream. | ||
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Durnuu
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ez liquibet | ||
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Charoisaur
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On April 26 2021 20:20 deacon.frost wrote: Who's the abuser now? Well, Rogue getting served his ego to himyou were saying | ||
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Vindicare605
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Sorry. That last game was amazing. That gave me some SERIOUS Mvp vs Squirtle vibes and i loved it. GGWP to both players. | ||
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deacon.frost
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On April 26 2021 20:26 nojok wrote: Don't think rogue will be much for maru, we need trap in the finals. Trap? Trap?! Heh, Trap beating Rogue in a bo7 xD | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:26 nojok wrote: Don't think rogue will be much for maru, we need trap in the finals. Nah I don't want to see another Rogue ZvP finals | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:27 deacon.frost wrote: Trap? Trap?! Heh, Trap beating Rogue in a bo7 xD Maru will just play it safe into win, it will be boring. Trap would be fun. | ||
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tigera6
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On April 26 2021 20:25 yoshi245 wrote: That's a throw. Damnit Dream. Even Rogue admit it in his interview. | ||
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:28 nojok wrote: Maru will just play it safe into win, it will be boring. Trap would be fun. Trap and fun? What now? :D I love your optimism though | ||
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darklycid
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On April 26 2021 20:29 M2 wrote: Why are people praising Rogue for game 7? he did the only possible thing in that situation. Random master player would have probably won the game after the bunker break, providing Dream's decisions I think you can praise rogues nerves as it was a game 7 othwerwise the play was pretty straightforward yea. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:29 M2 wrote: Why are people praising Rogue for game 7? he did the only possible thing in that situation. Random master player would have probably won the game after the bunker break, providing Dream's decisions Yeah its pretty easy to win after the hard part of the game is over. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4948 Posts
On April 26 2021 20:33 Morbidius wrote: Yeah its pretty easy to win after the hard part of the game is over. This right here. | ||
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Harris1st
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I was applauding the balls on this guy to go for the 3 rax in game 7 | ||
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On April 27 2021 00:42 Obamarauder wrote: holy shit rogue has never been 2nd in a premier... he's literally 10-0 in offline BO7's  | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
It make the final even more hype, it could be where both his streak are chalenged, or he could play Trap. | ||
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Niravroh
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On April 27 2021 03:46 Nakajin wrote: It make the final even more hype, it could be where both his streak are chalenged, or he could play Trap. I know Trap got bodied the last time they played, but his PvZ form right now is monstrous. Also Rogue isn't playing nearly as well as he was the last time they met. | ||
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QOGQOG
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On April 27 2021 05:45 Niravroh wrote: I know Trap got bodied the last time they played, but his PvZ form right now is monstrous. Also Rogue isn't playing nearly as well as he was the last time they met. Plus patches mean Trap won't get Nydussed into oblivion. Honestly, I think Maru or Trap would be favored at this point. Rogue's mentality in this series and the one versus Zest was impressive, but his execution has been pretty hit or miss. | ||
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ShowTheLights
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JJH777
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On April 27 2021 10:46 ShowTheLights wrote: rogue is going to get fucking sweeped in the finals. overrated Is it possible to overrate someone with Rogue's tournament resume? | ||
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Niravroh
165 Posts
On April 27 2021 13:26 JJH777 wrote: Is it possible to overrate someone with Rogue's tournament resume? I swear Rogue exists just to destroy expectations. He'll take it to match point when he gets opponents he's supposed to roll over, and absolutely embarrass opponents he's supposed to have long drawn-out series with. | ||
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