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ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
February 28 2021 16:16 GMT
#581
reynor got this
his opponent has to play back to back and it's already very late in korea
I like Dark
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 28 2021 16:16 GMT
#582
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
February 28 2021 16:17 GMT
#583
On March 01 2021 01:15 Devangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:13 WombaT wrote:
I’m unsure why one would even watch Starcraft if that series pisses then off, sure disappointment that your boy didn’t make it or your race but Jesus it was 4 real high quality games with one clown show.


Exactly, this was such a treat to watch whatever guy you are rooting for

I think it's no tthat i didn't enjoy the games (ok game 4 w/e), but more that the casters tend to get more and more annoying when they tend to overhype certain players. Reynor is absolutely on right now and deserves the hype this tournament but as soon as soemone starts to goat him i kinda just tune off because it feels like the only reason for that is because foreigner.
ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
February 28 2021 16:17 GMT
#584
those games were so entertaining. you have to admit that reynor is just so talented and an absolute god at sc2. plus his interviews are really funny too.

Still want parting to take the whole thing though
CJ herO #1 fan.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
February 28 2021 16:17 GMT
#585
On March 01 2021 01:14 Waxangel wrote:
You can tell someone is a truly passionate SC2 fan by their inability to enjoy the games


Being a Starcraft 2 fan is being a masochist by nature, 10 years can pass but you still get back from time to time to get mad about something. If coming back even for the things you don't enjoy isn't passion I don't know what is.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
February 28 2021 16:18 GMT
#586
On March 01 2021 01:13 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:10 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:09 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:06 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:00 MarianoSC2 wrote:
So frustrating that some people can be this lucky. Reynor got totally destroyed and outclassed in the first 2 games and then Maru and lady luck decided to gift him the series for some reason:

- Lucky build orders
- Marus play and macro slowing down due to shoulder pain
- Open walls
- Maru even had the last game won despite his macro being way slower than previos games. All he had to do was attack Reynor before he established his bases and built infestors but he just waited there to die

Oh well, its up to you Zest to stop this nonsense now. It would be a huge disappointment and very underserving if someone won the world championship solely based off luck.

Please don't watch the 2018 Katowice ro4 where Maru went up 2-0 then died to what were confirmed as meme builds to entertain the fans


I like how a failure to build walls while Terran somehow isn't an indicator of skill.


I mean they even have doors.

Further proof that protoss having doors wouldn't change shit

Then there is no reason to not give them those damn doors
MaxPax
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
February 28 2021 16:18 GMT
#587
im so fucking sad T_T also, i dont see Parting or Zest winning vs Reynor so.... congrats Reynor?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 28 2021 16:18 GMT
#588
On March 01 2021 01:16 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:13 WombaT wrote:
I’m unsure why one would even watch Starcraft if that series pisses then off, sure disappointment that your boy didn’t make it or your race but Jesus it was 4 real high quality games with one clown show.


Game 5 was a masterclass from Reynor not gonna lie.

Maru went full wrist break mode pulling it back as well. If not for those fungals he might have
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
February 28 2021 16:18 GMT
#589
I really hope Zest wins against PartinG and than wins against Reynor. Would be just perfect, but anyhow hoping the most for entertaining games!
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 16:18:56
February 28 2021 16:18 GMT
#590
On March 01 2021 01:17 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:14 Waxangel wrote:
You can tell someone is a truly passionate SC2 fan by their inability to enjoy the games


Being a Starcraft 2 fan is being a masochist by nature, 10 years can pass but you still get back from time to time to get mad about something. If coming back even for the things you don't enjoy isn't passion I don't know what is.


Artosis truly is the biggest Starcraft fan of all.
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 28 2021 16:19 GMT
#591
On March 01 2021 01:14 Husyelt wrote:
I think people confuse the casters trying to make the series interesting by saying “I hope Reynor can take a game...” for pro Reynor bias.

Caster bias may indeed be 2/10 leaning towards Reynor, but TL posters are convinced it’s 9/10.


Casters have always had massive favourites. Do you think Fruitdealer and IntoTheRainbow went into that first GSL final with equal levels of hype? Do you know the story of Clide, the greatest player to never win anything?

And let's not even get started on Flash and Jaedong, which was the most biased any caster has ever been in the history of StarCraft 2. Oh, but they're RTS legends, say people who would never dream of giving that kind of treatment to Moon and Grubby.

Caster bias only ever became a problem when it started happening to non-Koreans.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Devangel
Profile Joined March 2019
Russian Federation66 Posts
February 28 2021 16:19 GMT
#592
On March 01 2021 01:18 Topin wrote:
im so fucking sad T_T also, i dont see Parting or Zest winning vs Reynor so.... congrats Reynor?


PartinG showed really good PvZ vs Rogue, so propably he has a shot
Zergiica
Profile Joined October 2015
Croatia128 Posts
February 28 2021 16:19 GMT
#593
On March 01 2021 01:15 Devangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:13 WombaT wrote:
I’m unsure why one would even watch Starcraft if that series pisses then off, sure disappointment that your boy didn’t make it or your race but Jesus it was 4 real high quality games with one clown show.


Exactly, this was such a treat to watch whatever guy you are rooting for


it can be said after one or two times but after every tournament is like that you go mad.

you have same level guys, ZvT or ZvP, and deciding factor is not players skill.

this is why i am always saying: i hate ZvZ's but give me ZvZ final. it is an only fair matchup right now. where skill is a deciding factor.
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
February 28 2021 16:20 GMT
#594
On March 01 2021 01:18 Topin wrote:
im so fucking sad T_T also, i dont see Parting or Zest winning vs Reynor so.... congrats Reynor?


I agree, with the lag to boot. A little bit underwhelming to have a cross-server finals.
Clément 화이팅
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2021 16:20 GMT
#595
On March 01 2021 01:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:14 Husyelt wrote:
I think people confuse the casters trying to make the series interesting by saying “I hope Reynor can take a game...” for pro Reynor bias.

Caster bias may indeed be 2/10 leaning towards Reynor, but TL posters are convinced it’s 9/10.


Casters have always had massive favourites. Do you think Fruitdealer and IntoTheRainbow went into that first GSL final with equal levels of hype? Do you know the story of Clide, the greatest player to never win anything?

And let's not even get started on Flash and Jaedong, which was the most biased any caster has ever been in the history of StarCraft 2. Oh, but they're RTS legends, say people who would never dream of giving that kind of treatment to Moon and Grubby.

Caster bias only ever became a problem when it started happening to non-Koreans.


To be fair, I hated the Flash and JD bias too
Mostly because I wanted my Scarlett over hype
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 28 2021 16:20 GMT
#596
Honestly ya'll need to remember Nony's advice. If you can chill, chill.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 28 2021 16:20 GMT
#597
I hope this series is a disgusting clown fiesta.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 28 2021 16:20 GMT
#598
On March 01 2021 01:14 Waxangel wrote:
You can tell someone is a truly passionate SC2 fan by their inability to enjoy the games

This is the first real batch of games I've watched in like 4 or 5 years and literally nothing has changed
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 28 2021 16:20 GMT
#599
On March 01 2021 01:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:14 Husyelt wrote:
I think people confuse the casters trying to make the series interesting by saying “I hope Reynor can take a game...” for pro Reynor bias.

Caster bias may indeed be 2/10 leaning towards Reynor, but TL posters are convinced it’s 9/10.

Caster bias only ever became a problem when it started happening to non-Koreans.

People have complained about caster bias forever. It's just when the reason behind it is ethnicity as opposed to legacy or history as a player, it comes across as a lot worse.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
February 28 2021 16:21 GMT
#600
On March 01 2021 01:20 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:14 Husyelt wrote:
I think people confuse the casters trying to make the series interesting by saying “I hope Reynor can take a game...” for pro Reynor bias.

Caster bias may indeed be 2/10 leaning towards Reynor, but TL posters are convinced it’s 9/10.


Casters have always had massive favourites. Do you think Fruitdealer and IntoTheRainbow went into that first GSL final with equal levels of hype? Do you know the story of Clide, the greatest player to never win anything?

And let's not even get started on Flash and Jaedong, which was the most biased any caster has ever been in the history of StarCraft 2. Oh, but they're RTS legends, say people who would never dream of giving that kind of treatment to Moon and Grubby.

Caster bias only ever became a problem when it started happening to non-Koreans.


To be fair, I hated the Flash and JD bias too
Mostly because I wanted my Scarlett over hype

Scarlett overhype, i still can't get over how annoying that was. But yeah too much bias in general is a problem not just for foreigners.
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