• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:23
CET 14:23
KST 22:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT26Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0241LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game?
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) How do the "codes" work in GSL?
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up CasterMuse Youtube A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone A new season just kicks off Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread New broswer game : STG-World Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here!
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1517 users

[IEM 2021] Katowice World Championship - Championship Sund…

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 69 Next
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4965 Posts
February 28 2021 16:28 GMT
#621
i cant still get over that game 4....
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
February 28 2021 16:28 GMT
#622
GO PARTING!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
February 28 2021 16:28 GMT
#623
Would like to see Parting win this, even though I'm not hopeful. Can't stand his streams, but I love him as a player.
Mendici sumus. Hoc est verum. | I don't mind straight people, as long as they act gay in public. | Es ist keine Tugend edel geboren werden, sondern sich edel machen | οἶδα οὐκ εἰδώς
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 28 2021 16:29 GMT
#624
On March 01 2021 01:26 sneakyfox wrote:
PartinG you faceless Korean


Parting is so faceless Korean he steals other people's faces to use as masks.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2021 16:29 GMT
#625
When was the last time Parting was in a final, the 2014 cross final thing vs that same Zest?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
February 28 2021 16:29 GMT
#626
The only one who managed to get in 2 world finals in a row (now that kato counts as the old wcs world)is Life...
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 16:30:15
February 28 2021 16:29 GMT
#627
Lmao that anti-cannon gateway positioning on Deathaura. That's pretty clever.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 16:30:37
February 28 2021 16:30 GMT
#628
On March 01 2021 01:27 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:24 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:20 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:14 Husyelt wrote:
I think people confuse the casters trying to make the series interesting by saying “I hope Reynor can take a game...” for pro Reynor bias.

Caster bias may indeed be 2/10 leaning towards Reynor, but TL posters are convinced it’s 9/10.

Caster bias only ever became a problem when it started happening to non-Koreans.

People have complained about caster bias forever. It's just when the reason behind it is ethnicity as opposed to legacy or history as a player, it comes across as a lot worse.
.
Stats vs Reynor was the peak of annoyance though, one of the all time greats who may be playing his last big tournament and it wasn’t even mentioned, for no reason!

The worst I can remember was Stats vs Serral at ASUS ROG. You wouldn't even know who Serral was playing against if had only audio


The worst was definitely Sos vs. Jaedong.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3834 Posts
February 28 2021 16:30 GMT
#629
Only thing I remember from parting on SKT was the loss to flash in the proleague finals x)
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
February 28 2021 16:30 GMT
#630
On March 01 2021 01:29 Nakajin wrote:
When was the last time Parting was in a final, the 2014 cross final thing vs that same Zest?


He was in the 2015 s1 gsl finals or probably some tourney after but I forgot.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 28 2021 16:30 GMT
#631
On March 01 2021 01:28 Argonauta wrote:
i cant still get over that game 4....

Or game 4 of the previous 3 Katowice ro4s he lost.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
February 28 2021 16:31 GMT
#632
On March 01 2021 01:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:27 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:24 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:20 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:14 Husyelt wrote:
I think people confuse the casters trying to make the series interesting by saying “I hope Reynor can take a game...” for pro Reynor bias.

Caster bias may indeed be 2/10 leaning towards Reynor, but TL posters are convinced it’s 9/10.

Caster bias only ever became a problem when it started happening to non-Koreans.

People have complained about caster bias forever. It's just when the reason behind it is ethnicity as opposed to legacy or history as a player, it comes across as a lot worse.
.
Stats vs Reynor was the peak of annoyance though, one of the all time greats who may be playing his last big tournament and it wasn’t even mentioned, for no reason!

The worst I can remember was Stats vs Serral at ASUS ROG. You wouldn't even know who Serral was playing against if had only audio


The worst was definitely Sos vs. Jaedong.


Then, Karma striked hard this night.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
February 28 2021 16:31 GMT
#633
On March 01 2021 01:13 WombaT wrote:
I’m unsure why one would even watch Starcraft if that series pisses then off, sure disappointment that your boy didn’t make it or your race but Jesus it was 4 real high quality games with one clown show.


Human Nature. You could have the world's greatest series between the world's two best players and people are still going to find a way to find a fault with it. Like real life sports, doesn't matter if the games were great. If my team or my boy doesn't win. Fuck the quality of the games. I'm gonna be pissed.
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16044 Posts
February 28 2021 16:31 GMT
#634
On March 01 2021 01:25 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:22 Zergiica wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:14 Husyelt wrote:
I think people confuse the casters trying to make the series interesting by saying “I hope Reynor can take a game...” for pro Reynor bias.

Caster bias may indeed be 2/10 leaning towards Reynor, but TL posters are convinced it’s 9/10.


Casters have always had massive favourites. Do you think Fruitdealer and IntoTheRainbow went into that first GSL final with equal levels of hype? Do you know the story of Clide, the greatest player to never win anything?

And let's not even get started on Flash and Jaedong, which was the most biased any caster has ever been in the history of StarCraft 2. Oh, but they're RTS legends, say people who would never dream of giving that kind of treatment to Moon and Grubby.

Caster bias only ever became a problem when it started happening to non-Koreans.


moon or grubby weren't sc players and they were never that good in sc2. bad example.

and you probably don't remember stephano/idra/thorzain/scarlett era. they were biased, oh, they were. and it is normal.

like it was normal to cast like that in a game where one player does everything like he should to and in the end doesn't win.


Stephano was as overhyped as Serral maybe even more I'd say but he was winning less so ppl didn't care as much. (even if you can find some pretty heated threads on TL)

Did the casters say Stephano is the Goat?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 28 2021 16:31 GMT
#635
On March 01 2021 01:25 Legan wrote:
Is there any knowledge what happens between second semifinal and grand final? We could have an announcement regarding map pool or new patch, if they wanted to synchronize with the start of new circuit.

my bet would be on nothing happening but it would be cool ngl
~~~~~
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 28 2021 16:31 GMT
#636
On March 01 2021 01:22 Xain0n wrote:
While casters may be biased at times in favor of foreigners(Pig was actually telling Reynor to attack when he found one of Maru's bases undefended),
they pay great respect to the koreans and hype them almost as much.


Yes they do pay great respect to Koreans, but no they absolutely don't hype them almost as much.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2021 16:32 GMT
#637
On March 01 2021 01:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:27 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:24 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:20 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:14 Husyelt wrote:
I think people confuse the casters trying to make the series interesting by saying “I hope Reynor can take a game...” for pro Reynor bias.

Caster bias may indeed be 2/10 leaning towards Reynor, but TL posters are convinced it’s 9/10.

Caster bias only ever became a problem when it started happening to non-Koreans.

People have complained about caster bias forever. It's just when the reason behind it is ethnicity as opposed to legacy or history as a player, it comes across as a lot worse.
.
Stats vs Reynor was the peak of annoyance though, one of the all time greats who may be playing his last big tournament and it wasn’t even mentioned, for no reason!

The worst I can remember was Stats vs Serral at ASUS ROG. You wouldn't even know who Serral was playing against if had only audio


The worst was definitely Sos vs. Jaedong.


Yes, but just thinking about it make me want to laugh, so it was definitely worth it.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 28 2021 16:32 GMT
#638
On March 01 2021 01:32 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:27 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:24 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:20 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:14 Husyelt wrote:
I think people confuse the casters trying to make the series interesting by saying “I hope Reynor can take a game...” for pro Reynor bias.

Caster bias may indeed be 2/10 leaning towards Reynor, but TL posters are convinced it’s 9/10.

Caster bias only ever became a problem when it started happening to non-Koreans.

People have complained about caster bias forever. It's just when the reason behind it is ethnicity as opposed to legacy or history as a player, it comes across as a lot worse.
.
Stats vs Reynor was the peak of annoyance though, one of the all time greats who may be playing his last big tournament and it wasn’t even mentioned, for no reason!

The worst I can remember was Stats vs Serral at ASUS ROG. You wouldn't even know who Serral was playing against if had only audio


The worst was definitely Sos vs. Jaedong.


Yes, but just thinking about it make me want to laugh, so it was definitely worth it.


Fair.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 28 2021 16:32 GMT
#639
On March 01 2021 01:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:27 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:24 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:20 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 01:14 Husyelt wrote:
I think people confuse the casters trying to make the series interesting by saying “I hope Reynor can take a game...” for pro Reynor bias.

Caster bias may indeed be 2/10 leaning towards Reynor, but TL posters are convinced it’s 9/10.

Caster bias only ever became a problem when it started happening to non-Koreans.

People have complained about caster bias forever. It's just when the reason behind it is ethnicity as opposed to legacy or history as a player, it comes across as a lot worse.
.
Stats vs Reynor was the peak of annoyance though, one of the all time greats who may be playing his last big tournament and it wasn’t even mentioned, for no reason!

The worst I can remember was Stats vs Serral at ASUS ROG. You wouldn't even know who Serral was playing against if had only audio


The worst was definitely Sos vs. Jaedong.

That one was bad. It took sOs 3 world championships before he got the hype he deserved.

And after that his skill dropped off but the hype somehow remained.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Zergiica
Profile Joined October 2015
Croatia126 Posts
February 28 2021 16:33 GMT
#640
On March 01 2021 01:29 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 01:26 sneakyfox wrote:
PartinG you faceless Korean


Parting is so faceless Korean he steals other people's faces to use as masks.


he is arya stark of sc2 scene?
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 69 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Winter Champion…
12:00
Group C
WardiTV747
IndyStarCraft 160
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko331
SortOf 261
IndyStarCraft 160
ProTech116
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38954
Rain 5374
Horang2 4171
Jaedong 2788
firebathero 750
Rush 202
Killer 112
ToSsGirL 89
sorry 42
[sc1f]eonzerg 36
[ Show more ]
Hm[arnc] 23
Noble 12
Terrorterran 11
scan(afreeca) 8
Dota 2
qojqva1498
Fuzer 201
XcaliburYe156
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2109
x6flipin322
allub309
edward90
markeloff73
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King111
Other Games
B2W.Neo813
crisheroes180
XaKoH 151
hiko137
Happy96
QueenE1
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL918
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 23
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV397
League of Legends
• TFBlade411
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
19h 38m
CasterMuse Showmatch
19h 38m
Light vs Queen
WardiTV Winter Champion…
22h 38m
The PondCast
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
SC Evo Complete
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-22
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.