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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 10 2020 14:56 GMT
#121
On October 10 2020 23:54 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 23:51 tskarzyn wrote:
On October 10 2020 23:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 10 2020 23:34 RKC wrote:
The fact that players can bank up 5000+ in resources is a clear sign that the economy-supply-engagement dynamic of the game is 'broken'. This doesn't happen in BW at all. A good RTS should have players trading resources back-and-forth without building up such a ridiculous bank.

(No, this is not a balance whine. Just a general observation about SC2.)

I mean, banking up 5000+ resources is just unfortunate consequence of the fact that you are now obliged to get at least 4 bases as any race these days.


He isn't wrong though... This has always been an issue with SC2 design. Supercharged macro mechanics, free thirds, and broken supply to cost ratios make maxes come far too quickly. Games in which players are maxed 2/3 of the time are boring.

The main issue is the maxed supply army being so easy to control for top pros, bigger army should be more taxing on execution imo.


Which pro has ever said that a lategame maxed army is easy to control?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
October 10 2020 14:56 GMT
#122
Now for the current game, shit start for Serral. Again.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 10 2020 14:57 GMT
#123
Serral taking so much damage
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 10 2020 14:57 GMT
#124
On October 10 2020 23:56 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 23:54 nojok wrote:
On October 10 2020 23:51 tskarzyn wrote:
On October 10 2020 23:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 10 2020 23:34 RKC wrote:
The fact that players can bank up 5000+ in resources is a clear sign that the economy-supply-engagement dynamic of the game is 'broken'. This doesn't happen in BW at all. A good RTS should have players trading resources back-and-forth without building up such a ridiculous bank.

(No, this is not a balance whine. Just a general observation about SC2.)

I mean, banking up 5000+ resources is just unfortunate consequence of the fact that you are now obliged to get at least 4 bases as any race these days.


He isn't wrong though... This has always been an issue with SC2 design. Supercharged macro mechanics, free thirds, and broken supply to cost ratios make maxes come far too quickly. Games in which players are maxed 2/3 of the time are boring.

The main issue is the maxed supply army being so easy to control for top pros, bigger army should be more taxing on execution imo.


Which pro has ever said that a lategame maxed army is easy to control?

All of them, as long as its the other race's army.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 10 2020 14:57 GMT
#125
Well so far Serral is not doing much better than Reynor against the fast drilling claws style.
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tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
October 10 2020 14:57 GMT
#126
Widows. Disgusting.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 10 2020 14:58 GMT
#127
On October 10 2020 23:57 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 23:56 pvsnp wrote:
On October 10 2020 23:54 nojok wrote:
On October 10 2020 23:51 tskarzyn wrote:
On October 10 2020 23:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 10 2020 23:34 RKC wrote:
The fact that players can bank up 5000+ in resources is a clear sign that the economy-supply-engagement dynamic of the game is 'broken'. This doesn't happen in BW at all. A good RTS should have players trading resources back-and-forth without building up such a ridiculous bank.

(No, this is not a balance whine. Just a general observation about SC2.)

I mean, banking up 5000+ resources is just unfortunate consequence of the fact that you are now obliged to get at least 4 bases as any race these days.


He isn't wrong though... This has always been an issue with SC2 design. Supercharged macro mechanics, free thirds, and broken supply to cost ratios make maxes come far too quickly. Games in which players are maxed 2/3 of the time are boring.

The main issue is the maxed supply army being so easy to control for top pros, bigger army should be more taxing on execution imo.


Which pro has ever said that a lategame maxed army is easy to control?

All of them, as long as its the other race's army.

Yeah, fucking f2-amovers! Especially them terrans!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 10 2020 14:58 GMT
#128
On October 10 2020 23:57 pvsnp wrote:
Well so far Serral is not doing much better than Reynor against the fast drilling claws style.

For the record, Reynor did better on that map. Far better.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
October 10 2020 14:59 GMT
#129
More widow buffs please. Clearly not annoying enough.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 10 2020 14:59 GMT
#130
Even with mutas, fast drilling claws seems to be worth the cost of losing mines and medivacs. Also keeps the mutas at home playing defense.

I wonder if this will become mainstream TvZ?
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 10 2020 15:00 GMT
#131
On October 10 2020 23:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 23:57 pvsnp wrote:
Well so far Serral is not doing much better than Reynor against the fast drilling claws style.

For the record, Reynor did better on that map. Far better.

Yet serral is not behind. Much. A little on the income side(MULEs) but otherwise same upgrades, so until 3-3 happens he's fine. And Hive is on da way.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 10 2020 15:00 GMT
#132
Splitting on ping? What is that.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 15:03:11
October 10 2020 15:01 GMT
#133
On October 11 2020 00:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
Splitting on ping? What is that.


This is the kind of play we expect from the online god.

And that rush into the main looked chaotic, but how much damage did it really do?
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 15:04:03
October 10 2020 15:03 GMT
#134
And now cure is behind IMO


Edit> or not? MArauders to the win and Ultras into lose?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 10 2020 15:04 GMT
#135
Cure's micro is not the greatest this game
Year of MaxPax
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 10 2020 15:05 GMT
#136
On October 11 2020 00:04 sudete wrote:
Cure's micro is not the greatest this game

ping diff?
Faker is the GOAT!
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 10 2020 15:05 GMT
#137
I love watching the huge bane/mine hits you get in online matches.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 10 2020 15:07 GMT
#138
Ultras into loss, hehehe.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 15:08:22
October 10 2020 15:08 GMT
#139
Cure WTF

This game 2 is better than the first 30 mins of game 1
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 15:09:16
October 10 2020 15:08 GMT
#140
On October 11 2020 00:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
Ultras into loss, hehehe.


There's just something about ultras dying to marauders that is immensely satisfying to watch. Not any other unit, specifically marauders.
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