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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-17 14:40:38
September 17 2020 14:39 GMT
#341
On September 17 2020 23:39 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 23:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:37 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:35 geokilla wrote:
I'm more surprised Probe didn't just transition into a macro game and build a Gateway army. Rogue was reset and for him to get into Lair tech would have been risky no?

On one side Rogue was reset, on another, Rogue literally had 3 hatches by the time he lost his main.

And the lair was well on its way. Maybe there's a case for Probe to macro from there but it's not like he had unlimited time. I think just having a 2nd prism would have been a game changer.

Eh, i doubt any amount of warp prism micro can save your immortals from 40 speedlings (and more that will follow as fight goes on) and 5 queens without shield battery/photons support.

Well it would have allowed him to recall something

Indeed, but it's just prolonging suffering, isn't it. Far better off polishing proxy voids against terrans in lower bracket and hope Rogue wins the group.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
September 17 2020 14:40 GMT
#342
On September 17 2020 23:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 23:39 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:37 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:35 geokilla wrote:
I'm more surprised Probe didn't just transition into a macro game and build a Gateway army. Rogue was reset and for him to get into Lair tech would have been risky no?

On one side Rogue was reset, on another, Rogue literally had 3 hatches by the time he lost his main.

And the lair was well on its way. Maybe there's a case for Probe to macro from there but it's not like he had unlimited time. I think just having a 2nd prism would have been a game changer.

Eh, i doubt any amount of warp prism micro can save your immortals from 40 speedlings (and more that will follow as fight goes on) and 5 queens without shield battery/photons support.

Well it would have allowed him to recall something

Indeed, but it's just prolonging suffering, isn't it.

Anything to have more game time than Nice tbh
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 17 2020 14:40 GMT
#343
the foreigner fanboysm of Rotti is getting old.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
September 17 2020 14:42 GMT
#344
On September 17 2020 23:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 23:39 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:37 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:35 geokilla wrote:
I'm more surprised Probe didn't just transition into a macro game and build a Gateway army. Rogue was reset and for him to get into Lair tech would have been risky no?

On one side Rogue was reset, on another, Rogue literally had 3 hatches by the time he lost his main.

And the lair was well on its way. Maybe there's a case for Probe to macro from there but it's not like he had unlimited time. I think just having a 2nd prism would have been a game changer.

Eh, i doubt any amount of warp prism micro can save your immortals from 40 speedlings (and more that will follow as fight goes on) and 5 queens without shield battery/photons support.

Well it would have allowed him to recall something

Indeed, but it's just prolonging suffering, isn't it. Far better off polishing proxy voids against terrans in lower bracket and hope Rogue wins the group.


I'm excited to see if the Terrans watched uThermal's vod
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33701 Posts
September 17 2020 14:43 GMT
#345
On September 17 2020 23:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 23:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:39 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:37 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:35 geokilla wrote:
I'm more surprised Probe didn't just transition into a macro game and build a Gateway army. Rogue was reset and for him to get into Lair tech would have been risky no?

On one side Rogue was reset, on another, Rogue literally had 3 hatches by the time he lost his main.

And the lair was well on its way. Maybe there's a case for Probe to macro from there but it's not like he had unlimited time. I think just having a 2nd prism would have been a game changer.

Eh, i doubt any amount of warp prism micro can save your immortals from 40 speedlings (and more that will follow as fight goes on) and 5 queens without shield battery/photons support.

Well it would have allowed him to recall something

Indeed, but it's just prolonging suffering, isn't it.

Anything to have more game time than Nice tbh


Nice game time, you said?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
September 17 2020 14:43 GMT
#346
On September 17 2020 23:43 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 23:40 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:39 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:37 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 23:35 geokilla wrote:
I'm more surprised Probe didn't just transition into a macro game and build a Gateway army. Rogue was reset and for him to get into Lair tech would have been risky no?

On one side Rogue was reset, on another, Rogue literally had 3 hatches by the time he lost his main.

And the lair was well on its way. Maybe there's a case for Probe to macro from there but it's not like he had unlimited time. I think just having a 2nd prism would have been a game changer.

Eh, i doubt any amount of warp prism micro can save your immortals from 40 speedlings (and more that will follow as fight goes on) and 5 queens without shield battery/photons support.

Well it would have allowed him to recall something

Indeed, but it's just prolonging suffering, isn't it.

Anything to have more game time than Nice tbh


Nice game time, you said?

Can you record and reupload this through a potato please I can still tell what is happening
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-17 14:56:26
September 17 2020 14:55 GMT
#347
That was pretty weak from Special. He didn't need to send everything to defend 6 marines and a hellion. Especially at the cost of losing track of Clem's push.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-17 15:03:46
September 17 2020 15:02 GMT
#348
This was a brutal stomp. Clem is really good to make Special look that weak huh...

And that previous game, was Rogue trolling? I mean he kinda has a patent to come up with weird defense strategies against these all-ins (so called no reaction defenses :D) but this was super weird. It seemed like he wanted to handicap himself on purpose to increase the difficulty of that game by not mining any gas.

Shame we didnt get an interview. Maybe he would say: I just wanted to show everyone how freaking OP Zerg is to hold this kind of allin with no gas. Btw. I was playing with 1 hand. Give me some of that easy money.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
September 17 2020 15:05 GMT
#349
If Special doesnt hit a 1/1 3 base mech push he will lose
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
September 17 2020 15:08 GMT
#350
On September 18 2020 00:05 TentativePanda wrote:
If Special doesnt hit a 1/1 3 base mech push he will lose


Don't know if that was satisfactory. Don't think so
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States839 Posts
September 17 2020 15:08 GMT
#351
I want Clem vs Rogue. This might not happen.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 17 2020 15:08 GMT
#352
That 2nd wave of tanks :O How many did Special have in total. 30?
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 17 2020 15:08 GMT
#353
Dunno, Special looks pretty ahead in this game.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
September 17 2020 15:09 GMT
#354
Mech is broken I wonder how Clem will manage to beat that
WriterMaru
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
September 17 2020 15:09 GMT
#355
Now Special desperately needs to make an air switch. He loses a lot of TvTs by neglecting that
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7195 Posts
September 17 2020 15:11 GMT
#356
I don't see how you can beat mech on this map in TvT if you are a bio player.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-17 15:13:23
September 17 2020 15:13 GMT
#357
On September 18 2020 00:11 Luolis wrote:
I don't see how you can beat mech on this map in TvT if you are a bio player.

By summoning spirit of LiquidSucksWithoutMe Terran, i guess.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
September 17 2020 15:13 GMT
#358
On September 18 2020 00:11 Luolis wrote:
I don't see how you can beat mech on this map in TvT if you are a bio player.


That's a pretty extreme take. Obviously you can, just need to play better than that. Or you could just mech yourself. The build Special did is the strongest macro TvT build as long as you get away with early 3rd CC. Didn't even need it to be on location to be strong. You hit right before bio player's early 4th starts to pay off
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 17 2020 15:14 GMT
#359
Yep. If you let a mech player get ahead while playing bio its super over after 4th base is setup.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7195 Posts
September 17 2020 15:15 GMT
#360
Yeah, but what i mean is that this is a really hard map to pressure a mecher since there's not many viable places to push and even the 4th base is super easy to defend with mech.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
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