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Douyu Cup 2020 - Playoffs - Page 3

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UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-03 17:12:22
August 03 2020 17:04 GMT
#41
Would it be possible to programmatically "mirror" a delay in a match equally for both players, if one is suffering from the measurable handicap?

If this is stupid question, ignore it, but when its clear that such delays exist, and they can be measured (obviously), they can be apparently and obviously also handled in situ (by tournament admin with help of tools by Blizzard co.) too, at least theoretically.

Edit: In other words: If there is a measurable lag for other player, introduce that same lag for the another. Within a Server, in real time.
Part-time Serralogist
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
August 03 2020 19:28 GMT
#42
I think the players' computers would still need to communicate to the "lag creation program" so the lag would pretty much be the same disadvantage, but just added on to the original mess.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26715 Posts
August 03 2020 20:01 GMT
#43
On August 04 2020 02:04 UnLarva wrote:
Would it be possible to programmatically "mirror" a delay in a match equally for both players, if one is suffering from the measurable handicap?

If this is stupid question, ignore it, but when its clear that such delays exist, and they can be measured (obviously), they can be apparently and obviously also handled in situ (by tournament admin with help of tools by Blizzard co.) too, at least theoretically.

Edit: In other words: If there is a measurable lag for other player, introduce that same lag for the another. Within a Server, in real time.

I’d assume so, I mean Bnet has a built in minimum latency right?

Could just upscale it to whatever latency (roughly) the disadvantaged player has? Granted I don’t know much and could be talking out of my ass.

Latency equalisation isn’t really the problem here anyway, the handicap comes from latency affecting certain styles more than others. Hell its a muscle memory thing too, especially with stutter stepping bio it’s very rhythmic and you get attuned to a certain latency.

I’m sure it’s not just me that fucks up micro playing offline with zero latency just because it’s a different thing than we’re used to.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
August 03 2020 21:23 GMT
#44
Online play will always be bad cross server anyways so the best thing would be hoping for a return of offline events in 2021
WriterMaru
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7162 Posts
August 04 2020 11:21 GMT
#45
On August 04 2020 01:00 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2020 23:59 Oukka wrote:
On August 03 2020 23:42 sneakyfox wrote:
Btw, if/when Serral takes this map, this series will have been better ping 5-0 worse ping


Would be interesting to see the numbers on that across the premier/major cross-region tournaments (TSL5, DH masters, this, the wardi teamleague) for this season. Just to get a grip on how often do folk win on favoured servers vs "server upset"


A lot. Seems servers are pretty bad atm and central is becoming unplayable for korea with 200+ latency. I honestly think cross server play for kr vs eu just dies soon


Do you know any specific reasons for why it's getting worse? Or was it always that bad, we just didn't know it, because important events were offline anyway? Or is it Covid related that Blizzard neglects their server farms?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 13:04:27
August 04 2020 13:03 GMT
#46
On August 04 2020 20:21 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2020 01:00 WardiTV wrote:
On August 03 2020 23:59 Oukka wrote:
On August 03 2020 23:42 sneakyfox wrote:
Btw, if/when Serral takes this map, this series will have been better ping 5-0 worse ping


Would be interesting to see the numbers on that across the premier/major cross-region tournaments (TSL5, DH masters, this, the wardi teamleague) for this season. Just to get a grip on how often do folk win on favoured servers vs "server upset"


A lot. Seems servers are pretty bad atm and central is becoming unplayable for korea with 200+ latency. I honestly think cross server play for kr vs eu just dies soon


Do you know any specific reasons for why it's getting worse? Or was it always that bad, we just didn't know it, because important events were offline anyway? Or is it Covid related that Blizzard neglects their server farms?

Started like 4-5 months ago. I've seen Kiwian's ping shoot up to 250 consistently during esl na cups on central.

Also heard PartinG and Special say central has been "fucked up for months."

Even NA West has been 150ish at times you could see.

That's why Special was upset about the server rules in tsl qualifiers I think. Makes sense cause 200+ ping is where the game is completely different.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26715 Posts
August 04 2020 13:07 GMT
#47
I miss much with my boy Trap taking on Thermy? Set score seems to indicate a pretty decent series
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
August 04 2020 13:18 GMT
#48
On August 04 2020 22:07 Wombat_NI wrote:
I miss much with my boy Trap taking on Thermy? Set score seems to indicate a pretty decent series

uThermal tapped out a game that could still go on in game 5.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
August 04 2020 13:42 GMT
#49
On August 04 2020 22:18 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2020 22:07 Wombat_NI wrote:
I miss much with my boy Trap taking on Thermy? Set score seems to indicate a pretty decent series

uThermal tapped out a game that could still go on in game 5.

Classic thermy.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26715 Posts
August 04 2020 14:10 GMT
#50
On August 04 2020 22:18 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2020 22:07 Wombat_NI wrote:
I miss much with my boy Trap taking on Thermy? Set score seems to indicate a pretty decent series

uThermal tapped out a game that could still go on in game 5.

Cheers for the info
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
August 04 2020 14:29 GMT
#51
Pvz monster
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
August 04 2020 14:31 GMT
#52
On August 04 2020 01:00 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2020 23:59 Oukka wrote:
On August 03 2020 23:42 sneakyfox wrote:
Btw, if/when Serral takes this map, this series will have been better ping 5-0 worse ping


Would be interesting to see the numbers on that across the premier/major cross-region tournaments (TSL5, DH masters, this, the wardi teamleague) for this season. Just to get a grip on how often do folk win on favoured servers vs "server upset"


A lot. Seems servers are pretty bad atm and central is becoming unplayable for korea with 200+ latency. I honestly think cross server play for kr vs eu just dies soon


Oh man that's really a shame. You and other organisers and casters have done such a good job brining StarCraft to us despite the circumstances. If it is Blizzard's infrastructure that makes it harder it would be so frustrating. Obviously if it is ISPs and in general the natural problems of inter-continent connections then not much anyone can do about that. Here's to hoping world is in a state allowing offline events asap.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
August 04 2020 15:47 GMT
#53
my boy Cure got too cocky in the last game, GG nice series.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
August 04 2020 15:48 GMT
#54
Reynor Zest, Stats Serral, Solar Trap, PartinG INnoVation...

Pretty high-level stuff, definitely looking forward!
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
encoded_evil
Profile Joined May 2020
29 Posts
August 06 2020 07:40 GMT
#55
why is parting favorite vs inno? because of the server they play on?

grts
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7162 Posts
August 06 2020 10:06 GMT
#56
1 hour until some (hopefully) superb PvZ!

HYYYPUUU
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
August 06 2020 10:14 GMT
#57
Where are muh Terrans?!
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
August 06 2020 11:16 GMT
#58
Zest is best? :D
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
August 06 2020 11:35 GMT
#59
What a throw in Game 2
MaxPax
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
August 06 2020 11:40 GMT
#60
Well
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