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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
August 13 2020 13:11 GMT
#221
Serral used to never tilt, Reynor once agian in his head
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
August 13 2020 13:12 GMT
#222
On August 13 2020 21:52 dysenterymd wrote:
Meh. I think it's very hard to tell how good Serral and Reynor are when all their matches are online. They're both definitely top 10 players and probably even top 5 players, but until offline tournaments resume we won't know for sure.


Nice bait man, nice bait.
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
August 13 2020 13:12 GMT
#223
I won't even feel bad if Reynor wins this series. Serral's play has been absolutely below par for the first 2 games.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
August 13 2020 13:16 GMT
#224
On August 13 2020 22:08 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2020 21:55 dbRic1203 wrote:
On August 13 2020 21:46 tigon_ridge wrote:
Remember when people believed that Reynor's high rating was merely because he farmed foreigners, and rating is just a number that means nothing since he couldn't beat Koreans? He's proving that Aligulac doesn't care about your pro-GSL bias. Reynor has been collecting code S heads lately, just as his rating predicts.

Well Aligulac says the most likely outcome would ve been 4-1 for Reynor, so he kind of underperformed in this one
Anyways, I still think Alligulc is worth more, than many people think. You just have to take it with a grain of salt.

I d like to think, that if you give every Korean (+ Players who play KRs a lot like Special and Scarlett) give a 200 Points boost, it is very, very accurate.
Reynor and Serral would still be on top, wich seems fair, looking at their overall level of play recently.
I mean in this Doyou Cup, we had every GSL Ro8 player but DRG and almost all Ro16 Players as well.
Still its Reynor Serral in the End.

I don't know while i def see serral and reynor as top players i still think if they were in the korea eco system they wouldn't dominate gsl as they do the eu wcs, and probably even have some early exists sometimes.

I mean everyone can have early exits sometimes (like Rogue Season 1 2020 or Maru Season 2 2019) but I think its absolutly reasonable to count them as absolute title contenders, if they play GSL.
Just like 4-6 other players as well.
I think I heard somewhere, that Reynor want s to go to Kr again, once the whole Corona situation is resolved. Will be amazing to see him in Group Nominations bantering with the other Koreans :D
MaxPax
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 13 2020 13:20 GMT
#225
Is Reynor about to 4-0 Serral?
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
August 13 2020 13:22 GMT
#226
On August 13 2020 21:42 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2020 21:29 darklycid wrote:
I don't think i quite understand how Zest wins games, i guess he just does it.

The answer is shenanigans. Compared to Zest everybody else's play is boring and has no flair


He is the only player I dislike for his playstyle but cmon, you forgot sOs, what a dirty man, I still can't forgive him for his 2 blizzcon titles and katowice 2014
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7160 Posts
August 13 2020 13:22 GMT
#227
On August 13 2020 22:11 Tsubbi wrote:
Serral used to never tilt, Reynor once agian in his head

Tilt is such an overused term in esports that its ridiculous.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
August 13 2020 13:22 GMT
#228
Does Serral just forget how to win when he's in a bo7 with Reynor?
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-13 13:31:46
August 13 2020 13:29 GMT
#229
On August 13 2020 22:22 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2020 21:42 Elentos wrote:
On August 13 2020 21:29 darklycid wrote:
I don't think i quite understand how Zest wins games, i guess he just does it.

The answer is shenanigans. Compared to Zest everybody else's play is boring and has no flair


He is the only player I dislike for his playstyle but cmon, you forgot sOs, what a dirty man, I still can't forgive him for his 2 blizzcon titles and katowice 2014

sOs hasn't had flair in 5 years either. Goes well with not winning anything for just as long.

Also I disliked it at the time since I was never a fan of him but better sOs wins Blizzcon 2015 in game 7 than the alternative.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
August 13 2020 13:30 GMT
#230
On August 13 2020 22:16 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2020 22:08 darklycid wrote:
On August 13 2020 21:55 dbRic1203 wrote:
On August 13 2020 21:46 tigon_ridge wrote:
Remember when people believed that Reynor's high rating was merely because he farmed foreigners, and rating is just a number that means nothing since he couldn't beat Koreans? He's proving that Aligulac doesn't care about your pro-GSL bias. Reynor has been collecting code S heads lately, just as his rating predicts.

Well Aligulac says the most likely outcome would ve been 4-1 for Reynor, so he kind of underperformed in this one
Anyways, I still think Alligulc is worth more, than many people think. You just have to take it with a grain of salt.

I d like to think, that if you give every Korean (+ Players who play KRs a lot like Special and Scarlett) give a 200 Points boost, it is very, very accurate.
Reynor and Serral would still be on top, wich seems fair, looking at their overall level of play recently.
I mean in this Doyou Cup, we had every GSL Ro8 player but DRG and almost all Ro16 Players as well.
Still its Reynor Serral in the End.

I don't know while i def see serral and reynor as top players i still think if they were in the korea eco system they wouldn't dominate gsl as they do the eu wcs, and probably even have some early exists sometimes.

I mean everyone can have early exits sometimes (like Rogue Season 1 2020 or Maru Season 2 2019) but I think its absolutly reasonable to count them as absolute title contenders, if they play GSL.
Just like 4-6 other players as well.
I think I heard somewhere, that Reynor want s to go to Kr again, once the whole Corona situation is resolved. Will be amazing to see him in Group Nominations bantering with the other Koreans :D

They're definitely up in the title contenders area, it just gets overblown sometimes i think.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
August 13 2020 13:35 GMT
#231
On August 13 2020 22:30 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2020 22:16 dbRic1203 wrote:
On August 13 2020 22:08 darklycid wrote:
On August 13 2020 21:55 dbRic1203 wrote:
On August 13 2020 21:46 tigon_ridge wrote:
Remember when people believed that Reynor's high rating was merely because he farmed foreigners, and rating is just a number that means nothing since he couldn't beat Koreans? He's proving that Aligulac doesn't care about your pro-GSL bias. Reynor has been collecting code S heads lately, just as his rating predicts.

Well Aligulac says the most likely outcome would ve been 4-1 for Reynor, so he kind of underperformed in this one
Anyways, I still think Alligulc is worth more, than many people think. You just have to take it with a grain of salt.

I d like to think, that if you give every Korean (+ Players who play KRs a lot like Special and Scarlett) give a 200 Points boost, it is very, very accurate.
Reynor and Serral would still be on top, wich seems fair, looking at their overall level of play recently.
I mean in this Doyou Cup, we had every GSL Ro8 player but DRG and almost all Ro16 Players as well.
Still its Reynor Serral in the End.

I don't know while i def see serral and reynor as top players i still think if they were in the korea eco system they wouldn't dominate gsl as they do the eu wcs, and probably even have some early exists sometimes.

I mean everyone can have early exits sometimes (like Rogue Season 1 2020 or Maru Season 2 2019) but I think its absolutly reasonable to count them as absolute title contenders, if they play GSL.
Just like 4-6 other players as well.
I think I heard somewhere, that Reynor want s to go to Kr again, once the whole Corona situation is resolved. Will be amazing to see him in Group Nominations bantering with the other Koreans :D

They're definitely up in the title contenders area, it just gets overblown sometimes i think.

Well saying, the d win 100% if showing up is just delusional. No one is guaranteed to win 100%.
Are they the 2 best players in the world at the moment? Yes I absolutly think so.
MaxPax
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
August 13 2020 13:37 GMT
#232
If peak instincts 2018 Serral awakens, there is hope yet.

Just kidding this is probably a 4-1
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
August 13 2020 13:40 GMT
#233
On August 13 2020 22:37 dysenterymd wrote:
If peak instincts 2018 Serral awakens, there is hope yet.

Just kidding this is probably a 4-1


I think Reynor is the one playing like Serral in 2018. Serral was always ahead on workers count. Reynor is suddenly the one with higher drone count now every game vs Serral. Serral is going for overly aggressive strategies, and it's not working too well against Reynor, because Reynor's army control and defensive ability frankly looks better than Serral's.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 13 2020 13:42 GMT
#234
This is game is a wreck for Reynor.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-13 13:44:53
August 13 2020 13:44 GMT
#235
On August 13 2020 22:40 tigon_ridge wrote:
I think Reynor is the one playing like Serral in 2018. Serral was always ahead on workers count. Reynor is suddenly the one with higher drone count now every game vs Serral. Serral is going for overly aggressive strategies, and it's not working too well against Reynor, because Reynor's army control and defensive ability frankly looks better than Serral's.


Serral won with a defense in game 4 and actually pulled off a great defense in game 1 before ruining the follow up. I feel Serral has much better odds taking it to a longer game instead of these all ins.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
August 13 2020 13:45 GMT
#236
Reynor's 2020 series record vs Serral is now 3-3.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
August 13 2020 13:46 GMT
#237
Nice
MaxPax
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-13 13:47:27
August 13 2020 13:47 GMT
#238
What is Serral reynors all time score now?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26268 Posts
August 13 2020 13:47 GMT
#239
On August 13 2020 21:46 tigon_ridge wrote:
Remember when people believed that Reynor's high rating was merely because he farmed foreigners, and rating is just a number that means nothing since he couldn't beat Koreans? He's proving that Aligulac doesn't care about your pro-GSL bias. Reynor has been collecting code S heads lately, just as his rating predicts.

I’m sure some people believed/said that for sure. It’s kind of hard to devise a system that accounts for the difference between premier offline tournies, weekly online cups and all sorts of other factors. Hell now we’ve got online plus cross server being more common in the Covid world.

I think most rate Reynor as a contender in most tournaments on his day now, exciting if he does indeed decamp to Code S when Covid dies down. Him having a higher peak rating than Serral is a bit silly though.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 13 2020 13:47 GMT
#240
This is now two finals in a row where Reynor has outclassed Serral. I imagine he's very salty he didn't get to play him in the Season Finals as well.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
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