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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 18:05:51
July 12 2020 18:04 GMT
#1381
One of my wish lists for SC2 is a nerf to the queen - it feels like the early game has gotten pretty stale. At the pro level, the Zerg is always able to defend early pressure, and it feels too low stake. You can nerf the bunker and shield batteries too.

The map pool is already much different from 2010, favoring macro games with longer rush distances.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2665 Posts
July 12 2020 18:05 GMT
#1382
At least Clem will still go to the season finals, still it seems having a non-Z foreign champion seems like a distant dream.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 12 2020 18:05 GMT
#1383
That was bad but I can't believe he ggd
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 12 2020 18:05 GMT
#1384
sad game, ZvZ finals it is :D
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 12 2020 18:05 GMT
#1385
tilted
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 12 2020 18:06 GMT
#1386
Oh no, that sucks. The series was so good, shameful ending there.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 12 2020 18:06 GMT
#1387
Aww, unfortunate ending to the series
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 12 2020 18:06 GMT
#1388
On July 13 2020 03:04 Bagration wrote:
One of my wish lists for SC2 is a nerf to the queen - it feels like the early game has gotten pretty stale. At the pro level, the Zerg is always able to defend early pressure, and it feels too low stake. You can nerf the bunker and shield batteries too.

The map pool is already much different from 2010, favoring macro games with longer rush distances.

You do realize that queens have been nerfed a few times last 3 years?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3173 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 18:06:50
July 12 2020 18:06 GMT
#1389
bit of a let down down. I hope Serral vs Reynor is better. I was hoping Clem could at least take it to game 5.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 12 2020 18:06 GMT
#1390
Well if Clem doesn't do it, I will

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Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
July 12 2020 18:06 GMT
#1391
On July 13 2020 03:05 Lexender wrote:
At least Clem will still go to the season finals, still it seems having a non-Z foreign champion seems like a distant dream.

with the Zerg nerfs at least now I'm sure it really is because foreign Zergs are just better.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 18:07:15
July 12 2020 18:06 GMT
#1392
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 12 2020 18:07 GMT
#1393
On July 13 2020 03:06 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 03:05 Lexender wrote:
At least Clem will still go to the season finals, still it seems having a non-Z foreign champion seems like a distant dream.

with the Zerg nerfs at least now I'm sure it really is because foreign Zergs are just better.

honestly yeah. No way the mu is significantly biased towards any race. Serral and Reynor are just phenomenal
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2665 Posts
July 12 2020 18:07 GMT
#1394
On July 13 2020 03:06 NoS-Craig wrote:
bit of a let down down. I hope Serral vs Reynor is better. I was hoping Clem could at least take it to game 5.


Its the same ZvZ finals we've had for about 2 years, theres nothing special about it at this point.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
July 12 2020 18:08 GMT
#1395
On July 13 2020 02:57 Rob-Zero wrote:
It´s a bit like it was back in the days, when you watched korean high level sc2 and realized what was possible when two top players meet. Just in this case it´s two europeans. Not saying they are above the top koreans, but this is really amazing top level Starcraft2!


Was just thinking 'bout epic times when I was waking super early to catch KR pro games hoping for plays out of this world and being on edge of the seat because they fcking delivered exactly what I was hoping for. SC is such a beautiful game when you clash top of toptier players.
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 12 2020 18:08 GMT
#1396
On July 13 2020 03:06 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 03:04 Bagration wrote:
One of my wish lists for SC2 is a nerf to the queen - it feels like the early game has gotten pretty stale. At the pro level, the Zerg is always able to defend early pressure, and it feels too low stake. You can nerf the bunker and shield batteries too.

The map pool is already much different from 2010, favoring macro games with longer rush distances.

You do realize that queens have been nerfed a few times last 3 years?


A lil more would be my preference personally. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I really enjoyed the meta-game back around late 2011 / early 2012, when pros still had to watch out for an occasional one-base or two-base push that could do some devastating damage.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
July 12 2020 18:08 GMT
#1397
On July 13 2020 03:06 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 03:05 Lexender wrote:
At least Clem will still go to the season finals, still it seems having a non-Z foreign champion seems like a distant dream.

with the Zerg nerfs at least now I'm sure it really is because foreign Zergs are just better.


Zerg got nerfed a bit in ZvT but not much. The maps are more important and this pool is so so much better than last mappool, pretty much every pro has been saying this from the start. Yes marauders can tank one more bane, yes queens have 1 less AA range. But when you give them better maps, those nerfs dont do much do they
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
July 12 2020 18:08 GMT
#1398
On July 13 2020 03:04 Bagration wrote:
One of my wish lists for SC2 is a nerf to the queen - it feels like the early game has gotten pretty stale. At the pro level, the Zerg is always able to defend early pressure, and it feels too low stake. You can nerf the bunker and shield batteries too.

The map pool is already much different from 2010, favoring macro games with longer rush distances.


I get this impression too, one unit defending all early pressure (except adepts) doesn't feel like good design. They seem to be too good at defending creep tumours so the game snowballs to that total map control phase before even taking off.
Clément 화이팅
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 18:09:17
July 12 2020 18:09 GMT
#1399
On July 13 2020 03:04 Bagration wrote:
One of my wish lists for SC2 is a nerf to the queen - it feels like the early game has gotten pretty stale. At the pro level, the Zerg is always able to defend early pressure, and it feels too low stake. You can nerf the bunker and shield batteries too.

The map pool is already much different from 2010, favoring macro games with longer rush distances.


Aah yes. Let's go back to the days of 6 hellions killing 15 drones every game. Fun times. Great gameplay.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 12 2020 18:09 GMT
#1400
On July 13 2020 03:07 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 03:06 NoS-Craig wrote:
bit of a let down down. I hope Serral vs Reynor is better. I was hoping Clem could at least take it to game 5.


Its the same ZvZ finals we've had for about 2 years, theres nothing special about it at this point.


I’d rather watch serral reynor than Clem vs Z

Serral VS reynor is the highest level of Starcraft you can get in a foreign circuit. It’s like watching two top Koreans duke it out.
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