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naughtDE
Profile Blog Joined May 2019
158 Posts
April 25 2020 16:56 GMT
#101
Wait a second. With soO dropping out because he does not care about seeding, doesn't that mean, a player that does and does well and expects an Opponent that just barely qualified has to play soO? Aren't there any pros that care at all about seeding? Cause if they exists, what soO did, would be terrible, no?
"I'll take [LET IT SNOW] for 800" - Sean Connery (Darrell Hammond)
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
April 25 2020 18:04 GMT
#102
uThermal! Did really well last month v Clem and takes this TvT as well. Not the macro games I was hoping for, but with his control every build involving a lot of reapers does well I guess! GG
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
April 25 2020 18:17 GMT
#103
On April 26 2020 01:56 naughtDE wrote:
Wait a second. With soO dropping out because he does not care about seeding, doesn't that mean, a player that does and does well and expects an Opponent that just barely qualified has to play soO? Aren't there any pros that care at all about seeding? Cause if they exists, what soO did, would be terrible, no?


"expects an Opponent that just barely qualified"

I mean only a single player per qualifier gets to Ro16 straight away. So no nobody who will qualifiy for this event will expect a easier opponent. Reynor will prob end up first and qualify for the ro16 straight away while uthermal and heromarine will get a ro24 spot even when they qualified first when all the top dogs were in it. Bit of a flaw in the system, but you will meet a top player either way
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-25 18:18:14
April 25 2020 18:17 GMT
#104
On April 26 2020 01:56 naughtDE wrote:
Wait a second. With soO dropping out because he does not care about seeding, doesn't that mean, a player that does and does well and expects an Opponent that just barely qualified has to play soO? Aren't there any pros that care at all about seeding? Cause if they exists, what soO did, would be terrible, no?


"expects an Opponent that just barely qualified"

I mean only a single player per qualifier gets to Ro16 straight away. So no nobody who will qualifiy for this event will expect a easier opponent. Reynor will prob end up first and qualify for the ro16 straight away while uthermal and heromarine will get a ro24 spot even though they qualified first when all the top dogs were in it. Bit of a flaw in the system, but you will meet a top player either way
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 25 2020 18:57 GMT
#105
nice crispy drones
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
April 25 2020 18:58 GMT
#106
SlayerS HeroMarine?!
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hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
April 25 2020 18:59 GMT
#107
With a winners bracket advantage (that most double elim brackets have and imo should have) it would already have been the win.
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
April 25 2020 19:01 GMT
#108
On April 26 2020 03:59 hjpalpha wrote:
With a winners bracket advantage (that most double elim brackets have and imo should have) it would already have been the win.

I mean, Bo3 with advantage would be kind of ridiculous, and in a Bo5 with advantage you need to win two anyways, so I'd say that's alright.
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hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
April 25 2020 19:21 GMT
#109
On April 26 2020 04:01 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2020 03:59 hjpalpha wrote:
With a winners bracket advantage (that most double elim brackets have and imo should have) it would already have been the win.

I mean, Bo3 with advantage would be kind of ridiculous, and in a Bo5 with advantage you need to win two anyways, so I'd say that's alright.


Doesn't matter now^^
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ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
April 25 2020 20:25 GMT
#110
On April 26 2020 03:59 hjpalpha wrote:
With a winners bracket advantage (that most double elim brackets have and imo should have) it would already have been the win.

For a qualification tournament since there are 3 winners you are right. But moot anyways.
naughtDE
Profile Blog Joined May 2019
158 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-26 09:35:03
April 26 2020 09:34 GMT
#111
On April 26 2020 03:17 ilax30 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2020 01:56 naughtDE wrote:
Wait a second. With soO dropping out because he does not care about seeding, doesn't that mean, a player that does and does well and expects an Opponent that just barely qualified has to play soO? Aren't there any pros that care at all about seeding? Cause if they exists, what soO did, would be terrible, no?


"expects an Opponent that just barely qualified"

I mean only a single player per qualifier gets to Ro16 straight away. So no nobody who will qualifiy for this event will expect a easier opponent. Reynor will prob end up first and qualify for the ro16 straight away while uthermal and heromarine will get a ro24 spot even when they qualified first when all the top dogs were in it. Bit of a flaw in the system, but you will meet a top player either way


Sure, the quality will be ridiculous, so it shouldn't matter. Therefor everyone that plays the qualifier to the end after they are qualified, just does it to entertain us. I just realized that if one player doesn't respect seeding, then it becomes meaningless for all players.
"I'll take [LET IT SNOW] for 800" - Sean Connery (Darrell Hammond)
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10111 Posts
April 28 2020 00:00 GMT
#112
wow really good ZvP by Elazer there
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-28 00:54:16
April 28 2020 00:53 GMT
#113
Edit: nvm
Faker is the GOAT!
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 28 2020 05:05 GMT
#114
The only Player, who somewhat profits from the extra NA seeds compared to Eu is semingly Nice.
Neeb would be able to get a spot on the Eu Server eventually as well and apart from them it s an EU fest over there...
MaxPax
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
April 28 2020 09:11 GMT
#115
The winner of Clem/Elazer will got a free round while uthermy and Reynor who qualified before won't.
What a nice format
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 28 2020 11:07 GMT
#116
On April 28 2020 18:11 stilt wrote:
The winner of Clem/Elazer will got a free round while uthermy and Reynor who qualified before won't.
What a nice format

Yeah, they probably didn t think that thru.. Also the times are still not realy EU friendly
And I just noticed that the 2nd EU and NA qualifiers are scheduled for the same day, we might see another round of bys, skewing the competition in the 2nd NA qualifier there :/
MaxPax
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-28 11:59:12
April 28 2020 11:56 GMT
#117
On April 28 2020 18:11 stilt wrote:
The winner of Clem/Elazer will got a free round while uthermy and Reynor who qualified before won't.
What a nice format


Imagine if uThermal played Clem in a deciding match with uThermal already qualified. We'd get people complaining about competitive integrity immediately, and rightfully so. We've owned up to mistakes along the way already and will do so again if we must, but in this case there are very good arguments for what we've decided on. At least that's how I see it.
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10111 Posts
April 28 2020 21:15 GMT
#118
really good series between Clem and Elazer.
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-30 09:29:08
April 30 2020 09:18 GMT
#119
DRG is pretty close to qualifying, gogo DRG.
(currently 1-0 up against Creator and viewable on HorussTV, don't know if anywhere else, last I checked the other streams showed different matches)

DRG vs Silky next, it's strange, but one of these two will quailify from what I understand.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-30 09:43:34
April 30 2020 09:42 GMT
#120
On April 30 2020 18:18 HolydaKing wrote:
DRG is pretty close to qualifying, gogo DRG.
(currently 1-0 up against Creator and viewable on HorussTV, don't know if anywhere else, last I checked the other streams showed different matches)

DRG vs Silky next, it's strange, but one of these two will quailify from what I understand.

Yeah thanks to the Super Tournament not giving out Points, Hurricane had a higher seed than Trap and thus the upper breaket is a lot weaker than the bottom one..
That and the Upsetgalore there gave us Parting - Trap as qualifying match on the one hand and Silky - DRG on the other
MaxPax
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