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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On April 25 2020 06:23 Vindicare605 wrote: I don't understand why Protoss players don't veto this map vs Zerg. Is Purity and Industry really so horrible to play on that THIS is preferable? I mean he held, but that was way harder than it needed to be. Which map were you talking about? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
Drogo vs TLO on Zen. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
Zen's one of Protoss' better maps. Yeah there's all-ins but they can be held or even sometimes blind countered. And the short rush distances means your attacks get there faster. It's the regular macro maps (Ever Dream, Simulacrum) where Protoss gets destroyed the hardest (though ofc Protoss isn't doing that well anywhere). | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On April 25 2020 03:42 Nebuchad wrote: Denver vs Maxpax went 1-1 and then last match was not played. French casters said he (Maxpax) was disqualified and they don't know why. Reasons later I guess MaxPax was Streaming, he was contacted by admins then, Who told him, je has to be 16 to Play. I also saw Babymarine in the bracket, so they appearently didn t check for age in signups, wich looks kinda bad.. It s a shame, as MaxPax had an quite impressive run allready and while I doubt he had a Chance to qualify in the end it would have been a great way to expose himselfe as hes currently teamless, since he left Mkrs... | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On April 25 2020 07:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Zen's one of Protoss' better maps. Yeah there's all-ins but they can be held or even sometimes blind countered. And the short rush distances means your attacks get there faster. It's the regular macro maps (Ever Dream, Simulacrum) where Protoss gets destroyed the hardest (though ofc Protoss isn't doing that well anywhere). And most likely the Zerg would veto Purity instead of the Protoss. | ||
hjpalpha
Germany339 Posts
On April 25 2020 03:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Yeah wouldn't he just not be eligible to get points? Doesn't seem like a reason to dq unless TSL itself has age rules. Hi, since i read the rules/rule books (for TSL5 and EPT Cups and EPT general rules) I can answer your question regarding the age restrictions (even though i am no admin for TSL5): 1. The EPT general rule book states that players of any age can compete as long as the events rules/rule book doesn’t state otherwise, BUT Players have to be at least 16 years and 24h old before the first match of the event starts to be able to earn points. Thats why MaxPax can compete in ESL Open Cups as long as he doesn’t violate his own national law. (Since EU cups end early enough its no problem.) 2. Like any bigger SC2 event TSL5 has to on top of EPT rules abide by the Blizzard rules for events of $10k+ prize pool. Hence the age eligibility is 16+. (Same was for IEM Katowice and will be for any DH Masters event.) This rule is in part due to some EU countries having youth protection laws that permit people under the age of 16 to compete in any competition after certain times (e.g. in Germany 10pm local time). 3. As for why it only was noticed „so late“: Admins in such events (open bracket with so many players) have lots of stuff to do (seeding, answering players, stating the essential rules over and over in the ingame chat, ...). So it can take some time until someone has enough time to check for age restrictions, especially as admins usually do not know the age of most of the participants. For MaxPax his LP page states he is born 2005, hence can’t be 16+. He confirmed not being 16 on stream and towards Traidos too. Btw. he wasn’t the only player that was „DQed“ because of age. 4. As the rule for the age restriction is only listed in the rule book (section 1.1.2. bullet point 2) and not in the quick info on the bracket overview pages its easy for players to overlook it too. (Most players do not read the rule books/full rules. Several do not read any rules and just go with it (and ask admins if there is something unclear).) Hope this clarifies things a bit. Btw. I also linked the Qualifier Rule book for TSL5 on every TSL5 Qualifier page on Liquipedia last night. It is linked in the official brackets in the rule tab as well (thats where i got it from). | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4246 Posts
On April 25 2020 05:08 Elentos wrote: EU players can play in the AM qualifiers and they also get 2 invite spots. Most of the player lineup for the main tournament will end up being KR and EU. so what's the point with making separate EU/NA qualifiers anyways? just make 4 EU/NA qualifiers and host 2 on NA and 2 on EU servers. The names caught me off guard, thanks for clearing it up  | ||
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hjpalpha
Germany339 Posts
On April 25 2020 18:48 M3t4PhYzX wrote: so what's the point with making separate EU/NA qualifiers anyways? just make 4 EU/NA qualifiers and host 2 on NA and 2 on EU servers. The names caught me off guard, thanks for clearing it up its 3 na server qualifiers (7spots total) and 2 eu server qualifiers (5spots total) every one beside koreans and players that participate in the kr qualifiers (aka currently scarlett and some chinese players) can participate in all na/eu server qualifiers | ||
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hjpalpha
Germany339 Posts
Can players that made 2nd/3rd place in the first kr qualifier/eu qualifier again compete in the 2nd korean/first na qualifier, so they can take a shot at the better seed for which you need to win one of the 3spot qualifiers. Would be unfair if not imo, as those players were able to qualify in the first try and hence should not be disadvantaged by that, compared to someone that only did make first place in their possibly second qualifier in which the top3 are not allowed to participate in. EDIT: got an answer to that from julmust —> no the players that qualify via their first qualifier are not allowed to play in another qualifier so this now can result in players who perform worse in the qualifiers getting a better seed, more prize money and EPT points from that ...  | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On April 25 2020 18:54 hjpalpha wrote: its 3 na server qualifiers (7spots total) and 2 eu server qualifiers (5spots total) every one beside koreans and players that participate in the kr qualifiers (aka currently scarlett and some chinese players) can participate in all na/eu server qualifiers To be honest it would have indeed made more sense to have 3 EU qualifiers and 2 NA, there are just more high level players from Europe. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On April 25 2020 19:23 Xain0n wrote: To be honest it would have indeed made more sense to have 3 EU qualifiers and 2 NA, there are just more high level players from Europe. Of course, but I doubt they did it because they think NA deserves that many spots, rather it's they want a NA player to qualify. With 7 spots that should happen. | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On April 25 2020 19:32 HolydaKing wrote: Of course, but I doubt they did it because they think NA deserves that many spots, rather it's they want a NA player to qualify. With 7 spots that should happen. There's also the fact that NA qualifiers are accessible for players from LatAm, SEA, Taiwan, China etc. for whom EU would be unplayable and KR hopeless. It's playable for far more regions (including EU) and no NA players got invited to the main tournament. Makes sense EU has less spots, no? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 25 2020 18:48 M3t4PhYzX wrote: so what's the point with making separate EU/NA qualifiers anyways? just make 4 EU/NA qualifiers and host 2 on NA and 2 on EU servers. The names caught me off guard, thanks for clearing it up They are named "NA server" and "EU server" qualifiers respectively in the OP so clearly the names of the qualifiers were not the issue here. | ||
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hjpalpha
Germany339 Posts
On April 25 2020 19:23 Xain0n wrote: To be honest it would have indeed made more sense to have 3 EU qualifiers and 2 NA, there are just more high level players from Europe. totally agree | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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Elentos
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12435 Posts
"Reynor thought he was prettier than he was, Reynor was like "Mirror my beautiful mirror tell me who is the most beautiful" and the mirror was like "It's Heromarine son of a biiiitch"" | ||
Nakajin
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