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BronzeKnee
United States5219 Posts
On October 24 2019 13:39 Mlord wrote: Welcome to the most imbalanced blizzcon we've had since the release of heart of the swarm, great fun incoming Would Protoss win if Charge did 30 damage upon impact again? | ||
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DSh1
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HeroSandro
534 Posts
 Edit: This is all sarcasm. Not sure if it would be obvious in the current climate.... | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Showtime and Special did not have a chance today, lets be real here guys. Only EU Zergs could beat Korean Zergs in this day and age of SC2... | ||
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Justinian
United Kingdom158 Posts
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
On October 24 2019 21:49 MarianoSC2 wrote: soO lost to Dark? For me that is the most surprising result from today... I guess soO ZvZ is not what is used to be huh, because Dark is seriously terrible at it. Terrible? Dark's ZvZ rating is 2nd highest in Korea, and is 120 points above soO's. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On October 24 2019 22:48 tigon_ridge wrote: Terrible? Dark's ZvZ rating is 2nd highest in Korea, and is 120 points above soO's. Dark's ZvZ rating on Aligulac is carried hard by his overall rating(and, especially, by his ZvT). soO hasn't been winning many ZvZ in this patch, too. | ||
Poopi
France12909 Posts
On October 24 2019 22:59 Xain0n wrote: Dark's ZvZ rating on Aligulac is carried hard by his overall rating(and, especially, by his ZvT). soO hasn't been winning many ZvZ in this patch, too. Aren't vP / vZ / vT ratings independant of each other? Especially considering global rating is just the mean of vP/vT/vZ ratings. | ||
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
On October 24 2019 22:59 Xain0n wrote: Dark's ZvZ rating on Aligulac is carried hard by his overall rating I don't understand what this statement means. Moreover, Dark went 3-0 against soO recently. A 3-2 score is hardly surprising. | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On October 24 2019 21:49 MarianoSC2 wrote: soO lost to Dark? For me that is the most surprising result from today... I guess soO ZvZ is not what is used to be huh, because Dark is seriously terrible at it. Showtime and Special did not have a chance today, lets be real here guys. Only EU Zergs could beat Korean Zergs in this day and age of SC2... I don't know why you say Dark is terrible at it. Some of the best ZvZ I can ever recall seeing was Dark vs soO. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On October 24 2019 23:01 Poopi wrote: Aren't vP / vZ / vT ratings independant of each other? Especially considering global rating is just the mean of vP/vT/vZ ratings. They are not completely independant, no. If only one of two matchups are played in a certain period, the other(s)' rating will vary; look at Serral's rating history, for example: in the last period, he played only vsP and vsZ but his vsT rating increased as much as his overall rating(the average between his vsP and vsZ increase). Alternatively, check his list 234: Serral went 4-0 in ZvZ and all of his ratings increased by the amount his vsZ did. Edit: Now that I think of it, this just doesn't feel right. This way racial specific ratings can influence each other, and I believe this is happening on a regular basis. Specifically, on Serral's list 234, why would all of his rating increase by 15 if his vZ did? His vP and vT should stay the same while his overall rating should increase by 1/3 of the amount. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On October 24 2019 23:25 Xain0n wrote: They are not completely independant, no. If only one of two matchups are played in a certain period, the other(s)' rating will vary; look at Serral's rating history, for example: in the last period, he played only vsP and vsZ but his vsT rating increased as much as his overall rating(the average between his vsP and vsZ increase). Alternatively, check his list 234: Serral went 4-0 in ZvZ and all of his ratings increased by the amount his vsZ did. Edit: Now that I think of it, this just doesn't feel right. This way racial specific ratings can influence each other, and I believe this is happening on a regular basis. Specifically, on Serral's list 234, why would all of his rating increase by 15 if his vZ did? His vP and vT should stay the same while his overall rating should increase by 1/3 of the amount. I Think, the guys behind Alligulac desidet to programm it this way, because if someone becomes an better played over all, but didn t Play all matchups equally, the Ratings would also be strong. For example, if an EU Zerg gets way better over like 1 year,because je goes full time, but plays way more vs Z than vs P and bearly any vsT, his Rating now reflects that he s stronger over all. With your method, the vsT Rating would be much worse and the vs Z Rating much better than his over all Rating. But that would be strong, as the Player just got better over all, no matter the match up. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7088 Posts
SH + Nydus is just disgusting to watch in general I rather watch ZvZ all day than another ZvP with SH/ Nydus at this point. And we just started | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
Good to see soO isn’t a total busted flush too | ||
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Poopi
France12909 Posts
I don’t think he can make it a lot further though. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On October 25 2019 00:42 Harris1st wrote: Just catched up with the games today. Damn I feel Showtime could (should?) have won that game 5 vs Dark. What a shame. SH + Nydus is just disgusting to watch in general I rather watch ZvZ all day than another ZvP with SH/ Nydus at this point. And we just started yeah I was surprised they thought Showtime was doomed for a short while. I thought Dark was in a poor position when his nydus attack began to fizzle out. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On October 25 2019 01:14 Poopi wrote: Yeah soO proved worthy of his IEM spot today. I don’t think he can make it a lot further though. yeah I can't see him winning lategame against other top players. He approaches lategame too much like the midgame, trying to surround/outmaneuver the enemy with a lot of mobile units instead of taking advantage of zerg's really strong spellcasters. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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