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91matt
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom147 Posts
September 28 2019 12:07 GMT
#361
On September 28 2019 20:53 travis wrote:
Maybe trap's playing pvz wrong but the state of the game looks... so awful. Late game zerg really does look like "play well and win for sure" most games. I know it's a balance whine but the tournament is over so I feel like it's ok.

And like, why is nydus worm even a thing. Why did they make it? Zerg is not only the fastest moving race by far, but also already has mass drop capability with overlords.


mass drop overlords are hardly a strength of zerg, they are awful.
Chibuyo
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany14 Posts
September 28 2019 12:09 GMT
#362
One of the worst GSL finals. Was terrible to watch. Trap may have made some mistakes but ZvP is currently really terrible. In case you haven't seen it yet, skip it. I should have stopped watching after game 2 but I thought it would get better. Was wrong.
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
September 28 2019 12:13 GMT
#363
I usually don't complain about game design or balance but this was just stupid.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 28 2019 12:18 GMT
#364
On September 28 2019 21:07 91matt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 20:53 travis wrote:
Maybe trap's playing pvz wrong but the state of the game looks... so awful. Late game zerg really does look like "play well and win for sure" most games. I know it's a balance whine but the tournament is over so I feel like it's ok.

And like, why is nydus worm even a thing. Why did they make it? Zerg is not only the fastest moving race by far, but also already has mass drop capability with overlords.


mass drop overlords are hardly a strength of zerg, they are awful.


I'm not saying it's a strength of zerg, I am saying it's an option that was already there.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
September 28 2019 12:34 GMT
#365
On September 28 2019 21:03 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
The most exciting moment in this finals was when the camera showed Curious in the audience.


In my mind, Mvp won this GSL finals, hands down. Time for a new GOAT discussion thread?!?!!
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 28 2019 12:39 GMT
#366
zerg really just win everything now lol. looks stronger now than the patch that blasted Rogue to win four titles in a row back in 2017.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
September 28 2019 12:39 GMT
#367
I only saw the first and last game but I would say the final is actually Dark vs Rogue. That was definitely a nail-biter series.
Big Red Dog!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 28 2019 12:54 GMT
#368
On September 28 2019 21:39 BigRedDog wrote:
I only saw the first and last game but I would say the final is actually Dark vs Rogue. That was definitely a nail-biter series.

when you realise the really final was Rogue vs Zest
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7196 Posts
September 28 2019 12:59 GMT
#369
I saved this GSL finals to watch while I ate dinner after work... What a mistake, two games in I gave up, could tell the series would be garbage after that.

Disappointing.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
greenturtle23
Profile Joined August 2019
86 Posts
September 28 2019 13:12 GMT
#370
Horrible finals. The game is in a bad state right now. Nyduses, infestors, and brood lords make for poor games.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
September 28 2019 13:15 GMT
#371
In 2019:
soO won his first significant championship
Dark made and then won his first GSL finals
Rogue made his first GSL ro4, finals, then won the tournament.
It is the first year in LotV and first time since 2015 with 4 ZvZ finals of significant tournaments.
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
September 28 2019 13:31 GMT
#372
Wow, just watched. Was Trap half asleep during those games?
DONATE SC2 BETA KEY TO ME PLEASE
Inrau
Profile Joined June 2019
35 Posts
September 28 2019 13:42 GMT
#373
On September 28 2019 21:54 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 21:39 BigRedDog wrote:
I only saw the first and last game but I would say the final is actually Dark vs Rogue. That was definitely a nail-biter series.

when you realise the really final was Rogue vs Zest

And Zest could have won that 4th game had he stormed better in the final engagement and didnt clump up his army. I'd like to see storm drops before the infestors get neural.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
September 28 2019 13:44 GMT
#374
Of the last 40 tournament finalist, 22 were zerg and of the last 20 champion 13 were zerg.

Might not be the greatest balance guys
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
September 28 2019 13:50 GMT
#375
On September 28 2019 22:44 Nakajin wrote:
Of the last 40 tournament finalist, 22 were zerg and of the last 20 champion 13 were zerg.

Might not be the greatest balance guys

But someone told me Serral was the greatest esport athlete ever? Was I fooled?
WriterMaru
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 28 2019 13:54 GMT
#376
On September 28 2019 20:53 travis wrote:
Maybe trap's playing pvz wrong but the state of the game looks... so awful. Late game zerg really does look like "play well and win for sure" most games. I know it's a balance whine but the tournament is over so I feel like it's ok.

And like, why is nydus worm even a thing. Why did they make it? Zerg is not only the fastest moving race by far, but also already has mass drop capability with overlords.


Don't feel bad, complaining about balance and game design is basically what game commentary is about at this point. Even Tastosis are saying it all the time.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 28 2019 14:05 GMT
#377
On September 28 2019 22:50 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 22:44 Nakajin wrote:
Of the last 40 tournament finalist, 22 were zerg and of the last 20 champion 13 were zerg.

Might not be the greatest balance guys

But someone told me Serral was the greatest esport athlete ever? Was I fooled?

Why? Serral is probably most of these on his own
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
September 28 2019 14:07 GMT
#378
On September 28 2019 22:50 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 22:44 Nakajin wrote:
Of the last 40 tournament finalist, 22 were zerg and of the last 20 champion 13 were zerg.

Might not be the greatest balance guys

But someone told me Serral was the greatest esport athlete ever? Was I fooled?

You were. The hierarchy is Taeja >> Zest > Serral
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
September 28 2019 14:16 GMT
#379
On September 28 2019 22:54 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 20:53 travis wrote:
Maybe trap's playing pvz wrong but the state of the game looks... so awful. Late game zerg really does look like "play well and win for sure" most games. I know it's a balance whine but the tournament is over so I feel like it's ok.

And like, why is nydus worm even a thing. Why did they make it? Zerg is not only the fastest moving race by far, but also already has mass drop capability with overlords.


Don't feel bad, complaining about balance and game design is basically what game commentary is about at this point. Even Tastosis are saying it all the time.

Why do you think they are talking about it now?
Iirc during broodlord infestor they didn’t mention it
WriterMaru
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
September 28 2019 14:17 GMT
#380
Mvp didnt lose his g5l for BL/infestor to comeback and zergs to win everything yet again. its like we never left 2012
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
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