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GSL Season 3
2019 Global StarCraft II League Season 3/Code SStreams & Casters
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- Group Stage #2 (Round of 16): Dual Tournament Format.
- Group Nominations.
- All matches are Bo3.
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[GSL 2019] Season 3 - Ro16 Group C
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Poll: Who Advances Maru & Stats (14) Stats & Solar (11) Solar & Rogue (5) Maru & Rogue (5) Rogue & Maru (3) Solar & Stats (3) 41 total votes Your vote: Who Advances (Vote): Maru & Stats | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
Also, is that a picture of Solar? It doesn't look like any I've ever seen. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 04 2019 08:47 Boggyb wrote: Also, is that a picture of Solar? It doesn't look like any I've ever seen. It's Keen lol | ||
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tskarzyn
United States516 Posts
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
He's has excellent micro and probably the best 'battle' micro in SC2 history. I wouldn't be surprised if that is his ultimate legacy. He can look god-like with his fighting micro.. either way he should provide interesting games. I think he makes it out. Maybe he'll save builds for blizzcon this time, since he's already guaranteed a spot at Blizzon I believe? I doubt it, though. | ||
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
On September 04 2019 08:47 Boggyb wrote: The poll is screwed up. Rogue and Stats aren't an option and neither are Maru and Solar. Also, is that a picture of Solar? It doesn't look like any I've ever seen. Lol no wonder the pole is skewed. You made a good catch, but remember that's coming from a moron so don't take it as being worth much. XD | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 04 2019 10:18 J. Corsair wrote:He's has excellent micro and probably the best 'battle' micro in SC2 history. Not even close lol | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Not even close to who  ? | ||
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stilt
France2749 Posts
Micro is so linked to positionning that's sometimes hard to judge... Like Taeja's micro is not that flashy but is so damn good thanks to his impeccable positionning. That said, in "pure micro" (ability to maneuver units at fast pace), I'd say Dream and Life were better, maybe Happy too. | ||
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Z3nith
485 Posts
On September 04 2019 15:56 stilt wrote: Micro is so linked to positionning that's sometimes hard to judge... Like Taeja's micro is not that flashy but is so damn good thanks to his impeccable positionning. That said, in "pure micro" (ability to maneuver units at fast pace), I'd say Dream and Life were better, maybe Happy too. PartinG in his prime as well. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On September 04 2019 15:56 stilt wrote: Micro is so linked to positionning that's sometimes hard to judge... Like Taeja's micro is not that flashy but is so damn good thanks to his impeccable positionning. That said, in "pure micro" (ability to maneuver units at fast pace), I'd say Dream and Life were better, maybe Happy too. really Happy to see people still talking about Happy nowaday | ||
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stilt
France2749 Posts
On September 04 2019 18:21 seemsgood wrote: really Happy to see people still talking about Happy nowaday Same, I saw his WGL victory the same day as Serrals' one in hsc | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
Life, Parting, Byun, Hero, Serral, Innovation (this one is a very unpopular opinion, I know), Classic just to name a few who i think are significantly better than Maru when it comes to micro all in their peaks of course | ||
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CoupdeBoule
73 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
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Penev
28477 Posts
gonna get another coffee brb | ||
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Penev
28477 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
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Meeii
155 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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Penev
28477 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:06 Die4Ever wrote: 2 nukes at a time seems a bit expensive Well, his only hope of winning is praying for Solar to pull off a Scarlett  | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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Poopi
France12874 Posts
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CoupdeBoule
73 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:08 CoupdeBoule wrote: i wonder how bad zergs Maru must have been practicing against to think that is a valid way to defeat good old infestor broodlord The only zerg in his team is Rogue, make that what you will | ||
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CoupdeBoule
73 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:08 Durnuu wrote: The only zerg in his team is Rogue, make that what you will Maybe Rogue let him win out of pity xd | ||
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Penev
28477 Posts
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Penev
28477 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
What happened to LotV while i was missing that games got as long as Swarm host fests of old? | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Penev
28477 Posts
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Poopi
France12874 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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SamirDuran
Philippines894 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15957 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:16 deacon.frost wrote: So can we call out Blizzard about the patch not helping now or " let's wait and see" for another half year? After the sample size of 1 game? | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:18 Musicus wrote: Serral would've won in Maru's position. https://twitter.com/ENCE_Serral/status/1169192704573681665 He wouldn't have qualified | ||
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droppanda
Australia176 Posts
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CoupdeBoule
73 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:16 deacon.frost wrote: So can we call out Blizzard about the patch not helping now or " let's wait and see" for another half year? Just like the "unstoppable" Protoss of some months ago? Maru used like 40 nukes killing like 5 drones and 2 hatcheries, devastating... | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
It's kinda annoying that Terran canb't figure out a composition that can just win a battle against this. Makes the game a bit stale, I want to see midgame again. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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djraphi23
France2262 Posts
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CoupdeBoule
73 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Let's ignore the casters too? I mean we all know that with the BL range Thors are not valid response, hellbats or not. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4009 Posts
its good to be delusional on purpose amirite? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:20 Musicus wrote: Let's just remove all the t3 stuff from sc2. This sounds quite amazing. Most of the T3 stuff is pretty boring. :D | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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djraphi23
France2262 Posts
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Penev
28477 Posts
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SamirDuran
Philippines894 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:18 Musicus wrote: Serral would've won in Maru's position. https://twitter.com/ENCE_Serral/status/1169192704573681665 Easier said than done | ||
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Highrock1
50 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:23 Penev wrote: something needs to be done about bunker build time :D | ||
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CoupdeBoule
73 Posts
- Tasteless | ||
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djraphi23
France2262 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:23 Penev wrote: something needs to be done about bunker build time Can't believe Blizzard has never patched this ridiculous building in all those years... | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:20 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: its good to be delusional on purpose amirite? Do you really think Serral would be able to go RO16 GSL with Terran? Really? | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15957 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:19 Xain0n wrote: Just like the "unstoppable" Protoss of some months ago? Maru used like 40 nukes killing like 5 drones and 2 hatcheries, devastating... Terran has to constantly use nukes for zoning in the lategame | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
classic maru | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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ASCandLoLFan
25 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:25 ASCandLoLFan wrote: Maru keeps rubbing his shoulder, hope nothing is wrong with it. Well he's a Terran, so classic Terran issues. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:26 deacon.frost wrote: Well he's a Terran, so classic Terran issues. Don't worry, it just means he is about to punch Solar in the face. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Terran doesn't have one of those aoe damage spell and I always thought their lategame weakness came from that in this game. | ||
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Vanadiel
France961 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:23 Penev wrote: something needs to be done about bunker build time I'm okay with this. I could go along with a 5 second build time increases, even though it will change the whole landscape of terran builds, it seems well deserved. But to balance it you have to add a tax refund when you cancel your bunker, otherwise it ain't fair you know. | ||
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S1ngularity
Canada9 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:25 ASCandLoLFan wrote: Maru keeps rubbing his shoulder, hope nothing is wrong with it. I believe he mentioned that he had to go to the hospital for shoulder/wrist pain on his stream after GSL vs. the World, so he might be having some issues. | ||
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TheGoatPuncher
76 Posts
Yeah, I mean, they die so fast to about anything and any reasonable amount of them is too much supply out of core BL/infestor killing units for it to be possible to have a critical mass of them. Right? | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:28 Noocta wrote: Honestly, one of the thing I think would be good for the game is something forcing Zerg to split the broodlords / the corruptors. Terran doesn't have one of those aoe damage spell and I always thought their lategame weakness came from that in this game. buff anti armor missile again? | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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Highrock1
50 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:28 Noocta wrote: Honestly, one of the thing I think would be good for the game is something forcing Zerg to split the broodlords / the corruptors. Terran doesn't have one of those aoe damage spell and I always thought their lategame weakness came from that in this game. We had that with the ravens, it lead to the worst and longest turtle games in history. so, no. | ||
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Penev
28477 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:28 Vanadiel wrote: I'm okay with this. I could go along with a 5 second build time increases, even though it will change the whole landscape of terran builds, it seems well deserved. But to balance it you have to add a tax refund when you cancel your bunker, otherwise it ain't fair you know. anything to ensure our beloved bankcraft | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:29 Highrock1 wrote: We had that with the ravens, it lead to the worst and longest turtle games in history. so, no. Yeah I know, hunter seeker missile wasn't very good for the game. But Terran having a strong lategame caster feels right. I wish sc2 had something like Science Vessels really. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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CoupdeBoule
73 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:31 lolfail9001 wrote: So, what is Maru doing? Good old Prime terran | ||
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Poopi
France12874 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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Highrock1
50 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
sad! | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:35 NExt wrote: Goddamn it G5L The one trophy nobody will get, apparently. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
ever since 2019 IEM his ZvT has been bonkers. i would say it's no worse than dark's if not better | ||
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rayl991
Afghanistan80 Posts
He has just proven his point against the best Terran player in the world | ||
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Majick
416 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:37 rayl991 wrote: People give Solar flak for saying that late game Zerg BL & infestor army is unbeatable. He has just proven his point against the best Terran player in the world So this how best Terran in the world looks like? LOL | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:37 rayl991 wrote: People give Solar flak for saying that late game Zerg BL & infestor army is unbeatable. He has just proven his point against the best Terran player in the world Well Terran players have beaten soo serral and dark BL/infestor combo | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:37 rayl991 wrote: People give Solar flak for saying that late game Zerg BL & infestor army is unbeatable. He has just proven his point against the best Terran player in the world To be honest, he looked far more dominant in that third game, y'know. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
TIME beat soO's BL/infestor Keen beat Dark's BL/infestor | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:36 BerserkSword wrote: something people forget is that solar has an insane ZvT in 2019 ever since 2019 IEM his ZvT has been bonkers. i would say it's no worse than dark's if not better Patchzerg confirmed | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Come on you, give us that juicy losers' match team kill | ||
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Penev
28477 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:37 rayl991 wrote: People give Solar flak for saying that late game Zerg BL & infestor army is unbeatable. He has just proven his point against the best Terran player in the world People just don't like BL/fester, it has nothing to do with whoever is piloting the zerg | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
ayyyy lmao the only problem here is that zerg was heavily nerfed (queen and creep nerf) in 2019 idk what happened tbh. macro zergs like rogue fell off a cliff and solar ascends. dont know enough about zerg nuances to speak on that | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15957 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:39 BerserkSword wrote: gumiho and innovation beat serral's BL/infestor TIME beat soO's BL/infestor Keen beat Dark's BL/infestor Gumiho and Inno beat Serral when the mass nuke strat was new and Serral didn't know how to deal with it . Now he doesn't lose to it anymore. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
rogue must be extremely confident | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:43 Charoisaur wrote: Gumiho and Inno beat Serral when the mass nuke strat was new and Serral didn't know how to deal with it . Now he doesn't lose to it anymore. gumiho didnt use mass nukes | ||
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Slydie
1915 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:39 BerserkSword wrote: gumiho and innovation beat serral's BL/infestor TIME beat soO's BL/infestor Keen beat Dark's BL/infestor Cherrypicking games, good zergs are heavily favoured lategame. Imagine if we talked like a terran lategame comp like that? "Who can beat Innovation's liberator/BC?" At least it should be obvious that Thors and nukes are not the answer. Back to BCs? Mass yamatos should be cost efficient if they get an opportunity. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:46 Slydie wrote: Cherrypicking games, good zergs are heavily favoured lategame. Imagine if we talked like a terran lategame comp like that? "Who can beat Innovation's liberator/BC?" At least it should be obvious that Thors and nukes are not the answer. Back to BCs? Mass yamatos should be cost efficient if they get an opportunity. all im saying is that they arent unbeatable. i got a laundry list of pro games in premier tournaments for you where terran beats zerg late game, if you want | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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mechzdeus
88 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:52 Olli wrote: I'm not sure Stats was thinking anything during this game Damdaramdada shiny scalpel, damdaramdada gonna slice him up | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
if it's maru-stats in the losers round, maru is gonna bust out some insane enhanced shockwave rush | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:52 Olli wrote: I'm not sure Stats was thinking anything during this game Maybe it was online Stats that showed up | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:56 Musicus wrote: How many lings did Rogue lose already by running them up the ramp... why are those games so bad Because they're GSL games, duh. WCS is where the real level is at | ||
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goody153
44122 Posts
also who is ahead ? feels like rogue lost too much with cannon rush but protoss also has almost nothing | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 19:58 goody153 wrote: that game 1 strat strat was the single best swarm host strat i have seen (in terms of how it should be used not those endless attrition war in the past that endorses turtilng) also who is ahead ? feels like rogue lost too much with cannon rush but protoss also has almost nothing Rogue used similar strat in PL before. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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Penev
28477 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
Now thats something. | ||
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MoDiV
United States90 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15957 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:01 NExt wrote: Omfg. Stats vs Maru?? RIP MARU. FUCK JAGW prepped hard for stats not over | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15957 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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Penev
28477 Posts
Blizz pls | ||
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Poaktree
165 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15957 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:03 Poaktree wrote: I don't care how but please get Dark's facecam, I want to see his reaction for seeing Stat-Maru at the loser match LUL Why would he care? | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15957 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:03 Penev wrote: How is Artur going to be able to make fun of korean zergs now? Blizz pls ZvZ means 1 Zerg will lose. Korean Zergs hahahahahah | ||
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
stuchiu:Why you laugh so loudly? Wax:I remembered a infestor joke lololol... stuchiu:What joke?Tell me please. Wax:Are you crazy?I banned this account for three days! | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
I'm not saying it's happening but if so you can pre-plan the group with good enough players and preparations. It's scary. Maybe I'm just thinking too much into it while being at the meeting. Also cannot see Stats losing to the Maru I saw in the first match. | ||
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Poaktree
165 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:05 Charoisaur wrote: Why would he care? Mostly because of how the group selection went this time compared to how it used to go for Dark. Now Dark has two of his biggest threats facing off in a losers match. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:09 deacon.frost wrote: Also cannot see Stats losing to the Maru I saw in the first match. enhanced shockwaves | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Late siege time, not splitting properly etc. Too many mistakes. You need to get to the EMP radius alive and well to utilize it | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:15 deacon.frost wrote: Late siege time, not splitting properly etc. Too many mistakes. You need to get to the EMP radius alive and well to utilize it Maru might realize he playing sloppy and turn up the heat vs stats lol....idk | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:26 BerserkSword wrote: Maru might realize he playing sloppy and turn up the heat vs stats lol....idk Didn't look like he cares. But then again, that's his standard face Rogue, mate, you've seen 6 gases and no gas unit. THINK FFS | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
he is playing phenomenally ....unreal i see a code s championship in his future | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:27 deacon.frost wrote: Didn't look like he cares. But then again, that's his standard face Rogue, mate, you've seen 6 gases and no gas unit. THINK FFS yea that's definitely his standard face lmao looks like he cant be bothered with anything in life | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:27 BerserkSword wrote: is anyone seeing how well solar is playing today he is playing phenomenally ....unreal i see a code s championship in his future Nah. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
why not? he studies the game, respects every zerg play including serral and foreign zergs his mechanics can go off the charts too. he just went up 50 supply 9 minutes in against the OG macro zerg of LOTV he's only 22 | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:30 BerserkSword wrote: why not? he studies the game, respects every zerg play including serral and foreign zergs his mechanics can go off the charts too. he just went up 50 supply 9 minutes in against the OG macro zerg of LOTV he's only 22 I think there are better players who are still not in the army. Then, maybe. I can't see him winning this stuff. Unless he goes against Dark in ZvZ where everything can happen. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:34 deacon.frost wrote: I think there are better players who are still not in the army. Then, maybe. I can't see him winning this stuff. Unless he goes against Dark in ZvZ where everything can happen. I mean it's gonna be him and maru. maybe ragnarok lol (in that age range i think) | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
EDIT: Yeah, that was.... too next level, i guess. | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:37 lolfail9001 wrote: This is unlose-able for Solar, right....? | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:37 lolfail9001 wrote: This is unlose-able for Solar, right....? no | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
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darklycid
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Vanadiel
France961 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
I have learned my prediction abilities from LD's TI8 power rank. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15957 Posts
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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Penev
28477 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
I don't know why but when I see Rogue I hear the voices from Worms | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4939 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:41 Argonauta wrote: I dont know why but I am loving this shout-out thing from tastosis. Shoutout to Tastosis for that | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:39 Penev wrote: If only BLs had frenzy still so we could have a glorious BL/fester mirror to end this series with The most glorious ZvZ of all time was BL+old Swarm hosts+Festors vs... well, that as well. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
Shoutout to you for giving a shoutout to Tastosis for that. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
cant comment shit when having some call,of duty damn it | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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djraphi23
France2262 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4939 Posts
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Penev
28477 Posts
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Anc13nt
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Neemi
Netherlands656 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:51 djraphi23 wrote: Sexy Boy is back ! Let's see if Rogue can overcome the biggest obstacle in his career now, he's 0-8 in the Ro8 of GSL. | ||
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agsub
Singapore368 Posts
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Penev
28477 Posts
On September 04 2019 20:56 Neemi wrote: Let's see if Rogue can overcome the biggest obstacle in his career now, he's 0-8 in the Ro8 of GSL. *RO8gue | ||
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deacon.frost
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On September 04 2019 20:56 Neemi wrote: Let's see if Rogue can overcome the biggest obstacle in his career now, he's 0-8 in the Ro8 of GSL. Well, he lost 8 RO8 in a row, so now would be a good time for a c-c-c-combo breaker | ||
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On September 04 2019 20:56 Neemi wrote: Let's see if Rogue can overcome the biggest obstacle in his career now, he's 0-8 in the Ro8 of GSL. Dear will nomatch him  | ||
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Dum. dum. dum. | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:25 Penev wrote: I trust trump more with the launch codes than Maru dude got some sick nukes ?cool | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:25 Penev wrote: I trust trump more with the launch codes than Maru Maru would nuke the coast to keep invaders from moving in | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:25 Die4Ever wrote: Maru would nuke the coast to keep invaders from moving in Maru would nuke Mexico and then make them pay for it! | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:25 deacon.frost wrote: This just reminds me C&C Generals the Nuke general challenge fight. It starts with "NUKE EVERYTHING" Maru didn't really do things differently. Normally you just mass nukes on as any china faction that game anyways (well at least when i play it .. no idea how the multiplayer works on that game) | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:28 goody153 wrote: Maru didn't really do things differently. Normally you just mass nukes on china that game anyways (well at least when i play it .. no idea how the multiplayer works on that game) I meant when you play AGAINST the China Nuke general in the challenge. It starts with an animation when the said general sends several nukes to nuke your army, then the fight starts and the general's nukes are on the countdown Edit> added against to avoid confusion | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:29 deacon.frost wrote: I meant when you play the China Nuke general in the challenge. It starts with an animation when the said general sends several nukes to nuke your army, then the fight starts and the general's nukes are on the countdown Ohh i remember that. Such fond memories | ||
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The protoss nerf seems good for midgame but maybe the emp buff makes terran lategame a bit too strong? Maru had to fought very hard against the disruptors before being able to move out though Idk yet | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:31 Poopi wrote: NUkes are better in TvP than TvZ because protoss don't have mobile defenses compared to zerg :o (no creep as well). The protoss nerf seems good for midgame but maybe the emp buff makes terran lategame a bit too strong? Maru had to fought very hard against the disruptors before being able to move out though Idk yet Or maybe my conspiracy teory is right. I hope it's not. | ||
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instead of just massing you know protoss stuff | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:38 Charoisaur wrote: attacking into bio concave with planetary and Liberators.... Wtf Stats | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:38 Charoisaur wrote: attacking into bio concave with planetary and Liberators.... tanks and mines too | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:38 Durnuu wrote: Stats going for dumb attacks because Terran lategame is too strong, obviously I think exactly this the radius of that EMP is insane.. it seems like the protoss has no answer in straight on engages | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:41 La1 wrote: I think exactly this the radius of that EMP is insane.. it seems like the protoss has no answer in straight on engages Storm is still a better ability by a mile tbh. Also feedbacks. | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:43 goody153 wrote: Storm is still a better ability by a mile tbh. Also feedbacks. Feedback isn't that good since the nerf | ||
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but Stats hasn't made ro8 this year :/ | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:43 goody153 wrote: Storm is still a better ability by a mile tbh. Also feedbacks. storm is overall better but in TvP EMP is miles better the new EMP buff is absurd in TvP tbh it outclasses storm in every way range surface area damage burst damage vs damage over time of storm ghosts are overall stronger units than HT (cloak, more dps than stalker, etc) | ||
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Was it that nerf that doesn't one-shot ghosts anymore ? | ||
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As for Stats not going to BlizzCon, it might happen but there are still Code S playoffs and Super Tournament to be played. Heck, even Inno isn't out yet. | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:47 goody153 wrote: Was it that nerf that doesn't one-shot ghosts anymore ? But you don't have energy. Questionable at best, but if you know the range of the feedback you can launch the EMP sooner now as it has bigger range, so... | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:46 BerserkSword wrote: storm is overall better but in TvP EMP is miles better the new EMP buff is absurd in TvP tbh it outclasses storm in every way range surface area damage burst damage vs damage over time of storm ghosts are overall stronger units than HT (cloak, more dps than stalker, etc) that's why you have disruptors, colosus and are for so that you have a chance to fight back with a mixed composition | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:44 darklycid wrote: Can we please just remove all this stupid long range air units :/ Or add free units to tempest and liberators. | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:47 Penev wrote: now let's see if the curse can beat BL/fester I don't think any compo beats that . It basically has instant cast stun and mass AOE damage. Broodlords practically just braek buildings but the infestors alone beat almost anything at those point of times. | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:47 djraphi23 wrote: Stats might not go to Blizzcon. Crazy to think. too bad that ASUS tournament wasn't allowed to give WCS Points to Koreans :/ | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:46 BerserkSword wrote: storm is overall better but in TvP EMP is miles better the new EMP buff is absurd in TvP tbh it outclasses storm in every way range surface area damage burst damage vs damage over time of storm ghosts are overall stronger units than HT (cloak, more dps than stalker, etc) yeah, that's the problem with EMP, it's the burst damage of it, and that ghosts can cloak so if you have 1 hole then all of a sudden you get hit for say 2k damage (all the shields) in a single hit.. kinda insane. It's also hard to cover your army with observers because they are so slow they lag behind and they take up robo time.. will be interesting to keep an eye on win percentages over the next few months | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:46 BerserkSword wrote: storm is overall better but in TvP EMP is miles better the new EMP buff is absurd in TvP tbh it outclasses storm in every way range surface area damage burst damage vs damage over time of storm ghosts are overall stronger units than HT (cloak, more dps than stalker, etc) lol what, storm is still better than EMP in tvp | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:50 Die4Ever wrote: too bad that ASUS tournament wasn't allowed to give WCS Points to Koreans :/ then again, we got enough korean toss, let's get TY in | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:51 Z3nith wrote: I kinda have a feeling we're going to see Protoss really struggle over the next few months with this new patch. It's hard to say for sure because it wasn't complete stomps and it's Maru we are talking about, the I sense Z>T>P(<Z) for now. We didn't see enough games at all though | ||
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Blizz finally implement that colossus headbutt ability already | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 21:51 La1 wrote: yeah, that's the problem with EMP, it's the burst damage of it, and that ghosts can cloak so if you have 1 hole then all of a sudden you get hit for say 2k damage (all the shields) in a single hit.. kinda insane. It's also hard to cover your army with observers because they are so slow they lag behind and they take up robo time.. will be interesting to keep an eye on win percentages over the next few months It used to be much harder. Remember WoL? i 'member! Terran had a fleet of vikings and all he had to do was a scan and a-move of vikings, then a-move of ghosts because "you're out of detection mate" Ah, good ol' times in mah lulz league when one a-mover accused the other of a-moving | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:57 Penev wrote: bankcraft incoming If Maru uses the bunker bank mechanic he's fine | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:51 Z3nith wrote: I kinda have a feeling we're going to see Protoss really struggle over the next few months with this new patch. Protoss is weaker than before and the best korean Protoss are leaving soon... | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:49 goody153 wrote: that's why you have disruptors, colosus and are for so that you have a chance to fight back with a mixed composition disruptors are garbage at the highest level. It's a joke for pro players to consistently dodge disruptors colossi and disruptors can both be dived upon and killed with even bio with the new emp being able to wipe out their shields like nothing too just watch hero vs cure in group b of this code s hero is one of the greatest protoss players of all time and he became so by virtue of his absurd micro and unit control. it was one of the most disgusting things ive seen in sc2, second only to neeb losing to elazer in the lategame in gsl vs the world.....protoss is doomed look at g1 hero vs cure and see how cure completely steamrolled hero in an open map engagement....and hero tried everything - HT in warp prisms, colossi, and disruptors. nothign worked even with his legendary micro cure started out with a pure bio army with inferior supply against a heavier supply protoss army with greater tech and still just steamrolled him. bio runs train on protoss ground armies once emps blanked everything it's over for protoss pros in tvp. it's a joke tbh Even when hero built a forest of shield batteries against cure's ghost in g2, cure just ran him over | ||
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On September 04 2019 21:58 BerserkSword wrote: disruptors are garbage at the highest level. It's a joke for pro players to consistently dodge disruptors colossi and disruptors can both be dived upon and killed with even bio with the new emp being able to wipe out their shields like nothing too just watch hero vs cure in group b of this code s hero is one of the greatest protoss players of all time and he became so by virtue of his absurd micro and unit control. it was one of the most disgusting things ive seen in sc2, second only to neeb losing to elazer in the lategame in gsl vs the world.....protoss is doomed look at g1 hero vs cure and see how cure completely steamrolled hero in an open map engagement....and hero tried everything - HT in warp prisms, colossi, and disruptors. nothign worked even with his legendary micro cure started out with a pure bio army with inferior supply against a heavier supply protoss army with greater tech and still just steamrolled him. bio runs train on protoss ground armies once emps blanked everything it's over for protoss pros in tvp. it's a joke tbh Even when hero built a forest of shield batteries against cure's ghost in g2, cure just ran him over herO used to be one of the greatest Protoss players, recently he's not that great. Let's make herO great again! Rather use Classic/Stats IMO.Edit> Also Cure got better. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:08 nojok wrote: Maru's marines looking like my marines : clumped and served on a plate for banelings. Just play like Maru | ||
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Unboarding the Maru hype train here and now, I hope some other T can step it up. | ||
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Artosis: "that's a possibility" lol | ||
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"That's a possibility" e: snipuu | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:11 Die4Ever wrote: Tasteless: "Maybe Maru will do the impossible" Artosis: "that's a possibility" lol "Maru just did the impossible" they were right! | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:19 Ej_ wrote: Ultras into lose in late 2019, whoah Yeah, a timeless classic. | ||
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he suddenly just started getting so much efficient trade all the time .. that was just maru being better | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:19 goody153 wrote: i don't understand how maru won that tbh he suddenly just started getting so much efficient trade all the time .. that was just maru being better Killing maruaders with banelings is just pure bad idea. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:19 goody153 wrote: i don't understand how maru won that tbh he suddenly just started getting so much efficient trade all the time .. that was just maru being better solar made ultralisks | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:20 nojok wrote: Great game, broodfestor is softer without infestors and broodlords. I guess he didn't use it because the bases are so far spread apart | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:19 goody153 wrote: i don't understand how maru won that tbh he suddenly just started getting so much efficient trade all the time .. that was just maru being better Bio does start trading A LOT more efficiently once they get ghosts and before Zerg splits the map with spore/infestor/BL | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:21 Charoisaur wrote: I guess he didn't use it because the bases are so far spread apart Good point, the transition must be tough in this map. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:21 Ej_ wrote: Bio does start trading A LOT more efficiently once they get ghosts and before Zerg splits the map with spore/infestor/BL sc2 tvz is like that now ? | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:21 neutralrobot wrote: Maru actually looking good in that game. Favorable trades over and over, like the old days. u mean like 3 months ago? | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:19 goody153 wrote: i don't understand how maru won that tbh he suddenly just started getting so much efficient trade all the time .. that was just maru being better It turns out mines and liberators are pretty good against banelings... Also those snipes, wow! | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:20 Argonauta wrote: shoutout to Cobalt, great map This. Honestly think it could be great to have some more of these big maps, they seem to consistently generate amazing games. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:24 Ej_ wrote: What an awful attempt of trading by Solar he might be doing the choke | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:02 deacon.frost wrote: herO used to be one of the greatest Protoss players, recently he's not that great. Let's make herO great again! Rather use Classic/Stats IMO.Edit> Also Cure got better. I was referring to the ability of hero to contest cure in the open map. hero is not as good as he was before not because his micro fell off, but because his decision making is still stuck in the old Protoss mindset mindset has little to do with an engagement in mid map against a mechanically inferior terran player though. Hero had the advantage in all areas when he was engaging cure in the map, but cure just steamrolled him | ||
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Making sure infestors don't get nerfed | ||
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neutralrobot
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Yeah! Haha, I was thinking more of the style he had in 2015 or so? There was a while where this was really his thing. He'd just tenaciously trade over and over until it all added up. It wasn't about getting quick or decisive advantages a lot of the time. I don't feel like that was quite so characteristic of his TvZ style in recent times. Am I wrong? | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:31 Ej_ wrote: Why is Solar droning what the fuck my thoughts exactly after maru kinda lost alot of things more than solar did | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:31 Ej_ wrote: Why is Solar droning what the fuck It's a very unusual scenario, I guess both players are a bit lost. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:33 Charoisaur wrote: Solar is dead Looks pretty alive to me. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:34 nojok wrote: It's a very unusual scenario, I guess both players are a bit lost. Maru's been recovering absolutely perfectly. | ||
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He has garbage army composition, 4 or 2 at best upgrades down | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:35 Ej_ wrote: Maru's been recovering absolutely perfectly. Because most of the action and players' focus were on solar's side, maru could judge what solar lost while solar probably did not properly looked at the damage his mutas were doing and underestimated it by a lot. | ||
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not playing to win | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:37 Penev wrote: see? BL/fester is fine lol | ||
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On September 04 2019 20:09 deacon.frost wrote: I just wonder if having 2 players in the group from the same team is a good idea in the current situation. I mean - let's imagine JAGW want to have both players through. You can have both players in ALL the matches with a good preparation you can dictate the flow of the group matches. I'm not saying it's happening but if so you can pre-plan the group with good enough players and preparations. It's scary. Maybe I'm just thinking too much into it while being at the meeting. Obviously I was wrong about Stats. | ||
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Idk why Solar didn't try to attack with his big army when he had a lead but thankfully that allowed Maru to recover bit by bit while having better upgrades and composition. Maru and Rogue as I predicted. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:37 nojok wrote: Because most of the action and players' focus were on solar's side, maru could judge what solar lost while solar probably did not properly looked at the damage his mutas were doing and underestimated it by a lot. but he noticed his upgrades got sniped which should have pulled the trigger to all-in | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:38 Poopi wrote: Fuck yeah Maru! Idk why Solar didn't try to attack with his big army when he had a lead but thankfully that allowed Maru to recover bit by bit while having better upgrades and composition. Maru and Rogue as I predicted. 200 to 150 supply is an advantage to terran, at that point it was already too late | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:37 Penev wrote: see? BL/fester is fine its too late !we saw it all,dem filthy zergs wont be able to deceive us again the reallllllll question is wut kind of nerf is needed for this unit tho | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:39 Charoisaur wrote: but he noticed his upgrades got sniped which should have pulled the trigger to all-in Not only that, the terran only got two effin' barracks left... He had a huge timing window. It was relatively ok not to attack and stay back safely if he was even on upgrades, but the knowledge of the window while being behind in upgrades should have triggered an attack? | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:39 Zerg.Zilla wrote: Below 50 IQ play.... out with your shitty tongue | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:39 Alchemik wrote: 200 to 150 supply is an advantage to terran, at that point it was already too late He killed his tanks as well, it would have been a very tough hold for Maru! Anyway a better option than dying to 3-3 vs 1-1... | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:39 SamirDuran wrote: I dont know if maru just transcended to his gsl final god form after that forgettable and shameful 1st series performance or solar just played pretty bad. Maybe a little of both? Maru in that last series was not the same player as the guy in the first one. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:39 Charoisaur wrote: but he noticed his upgrades got sniped which should have pulled the trigger to all-in I think he really underestimated the damage his mutas had done and went for the "drone up and pray" gamble. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:40 Poopi wrote: Not only that, the terran only got two effin' barracks left... He had a huge timing window. It was relatively ok not to attack and stay back safely if he was even on upgrades, but the knowledge of the window while being behind in upgrades should have triggered an attack? Maru is kinda good in defending at those kind of situations. That must have hold him back | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:43 neutralrobot wrote: Maybe a little of both? Maru in that last series was not the same player as the guy in the first one. same for Solar | ||
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TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:43 neutralrobot wrote: Maybe a little of both? Maru in that last series was not the same player as the guy in the first one. Neither of them looked consistant enough to be champions this year, tbh... Quite some mistakes and bad calls in the throughout the Maru vs Solar games with Maru's play in the final map of the 1st Bo3 probably being the worst. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:43 neutralrobot wrote: Maybe a little of both? Maru in that last series was not the same player as the guy in the first one. It was like i am watching maru but he is not maru that i stopped watching for awhile. I thought he'll bomb out of this group because he is playing vs stats but he rekt stats and, well he is the second winner of this group | ||
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Yeah, Solar looked weirdly lost after playing stellar games. I actually thought Stats + Solar were most likely to get out of the group going into it tonight and much as I'm a Maru fan, I'm a bit sad that Solar is out. He's been looking so good lately. | ||
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On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time. I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru. | ||
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repomaniak
Poland324 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On September 04 2019 22:49 Poopi wrote: I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru. Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence. | ||
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darklycid
3510 Posts
On September 04 2019 23:11 Xain0n wrote: Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence. Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 04 2019 23:13 darklycid wrote: Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho. Current Maru just got a j00cy new buff in the patch. There is no way Maru loses to protoss players now | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4939 Posts
On September 04 2019 23:13 darklycid wrote: Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho. obviously because start of the year Maru won a GSL. Only way of current Maru being as good as beginning of 2019 Maru is if current Maru has just win a GSL other than that: Current Maru < start of 2019 Maru Edit: Okay I forgot where I was, if current Maru wins a WEEKENDER then current Maru > start of 2019 Maru. Because here weekenders >>>>>>>>>>> GSLs | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On September 04 2019 23:26 BerserkSword wrote: Current Maru just got a j00cy new buff in the patch. There is no way Maru loses to protoss players now Let me tell you an interesting story about Maru and Protoss! Since the start of 2018, Maru is 16-13 in series in TvP; as we all know, however, Maru is much stronger when he can prepare for his opponent and this is especially true against Protoss. Weekender Maru is currently 2-11 in the matchup with an open streak of 0-8; Code S Maru is up 6-2 in groupstages and has an open streak of 8-0 in bo5+ elimination matches. Maru achieved all of that while Terran were supposedly weak in TvP; now, after the last patch, they don't really seem that weak. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 04 2019 23:13 darklycid wrote: Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho. Questionable at best. Maru failed one RO32. This RO16 group seems to me preplanned to the highest extent but that's my paranoia. Also the RO16/32 Maru isn't comparable to the RO8+ Maru. We simply can't tell when Maru is playing | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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Slydie
1915 Posts
It is not all bad, though, winning vs strong TvP players will be considered a much greater achievement! | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 05 2019 00:34 Nakajin wrote: Someone dust off that G5L trophy! If Maru is in usual form I don't see how he doesn't at least make the final. Keen/Trap/anyone from group D aren't coming close | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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HeroSandro
530 Posts
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Poopi
France12874 Posts
On September 05 2019 02:56 HeroSandro wrote: Is Rogue back to being a top player? Rogue is scarier when not qualified for blizzcon | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On September 04 2019 23:11 Xain0n wrote: Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence. Agree with everything except Trap has been manhandling Maru on ladder. Granted its ladder, but his PvT is insane so I think he would stand a good chance | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On September 05 2019 04:11 MarianoSC2 wrote: Agree with everything except Trap has been manhandling Maru on ladder. Granted its ladder, but his PvT is insane so I think he would stand a good chance I hope so, last time Trap was destroyed but he has definitely improved since then. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On September 05 2019 04:11 MarianoSC2 wrote: Agree with everything except Trap has been manhandling Maru on ladder. Granted its ladder, but his PvT is insane so I think he would stand a good chance OTOH it's a teamkill. Teamkills don't have logic. prime example is sOs v Maru at Blizzcon. Or Rogue v Maru GSL S2 RO8 2k18 IIRC) | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On September 05 2019 05:42 deacon.frost wrote: OTOH it's a teamkill. Teamkills don't have logic. prime example is sOs v Maru at Blizzcon. Or Rogue v Maru GSL S2 RO8 2k18 IIRC) sOs vs Maru at BlizzCon was a perfectly logical series; sOs knew Maru was proxy addicted at the time and eventually made him pay for that habit. | ||
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S1ngularity
Canada9 Posts
On September 04 2019 23:44 Xain0n wrote: Let me tell you an interesting story about Maru and Protoss! Since the start of 2018, Maru is 16-13 in series in TvP; as we all know, however, Maru is much stronger when he can prepare for his opponent and this is especially true against Protoss. Weekender Maru is currently 2-11 in the matchup with an open streak of 0-8; Code S Maru is up 6-2 in groupstages and has an open streak of 8-0 in bo5+ elimination matches. Maru achieved all of that while Terran were supposedly weak in TvP; now, after the last patch, they don't really seem that weak. Weekender Maru is 8-5 in TvP in 2018 and 3-4 in 2019 though? Not sure how you're getting your numbers. And this whole weekender Maru thing doesn't really hold up. He had plenty of time to prep for Stats for GSL vs. the World. If anything, it seems to me like he doesn't care that much for ST and GSLvTW and prefers to use that time to rest. It's also worth mentioning that he usually gets knocked out by either Stats, the best protoss for years now, or sOs, his practice partner. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On September 05 2019 07:16 S1ngularity wrote: Weekender Maru is 8-5 in TvP in 2018 and 3-4 in 2019 though? Not sure how you're getting your numbers. And this whole weekender Maru thing doesn't really hold up. He had plenty of time to prep for Stats for GSL vs. the World. If anything, it seems to me like he doesn't care that much for ST and GSLvTW and prefers to use that time to rest. It's also worth mentioning that he usually gets knocked out by either Stats, the best protoss for years now, or sOs, his practice partner. I considered only offline games against korean Protoss since January 2018, source is Aligulac. Weekender Maru is a thing considering how hard he failed at BlizzCon and IEM, I guess he cares about those(and he only won a single non Starleague tournament in his nine years career). | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On September 04 2019 23:36 Argonauta wrote: obviously because start of the year Maru won a GSL. Only was of current Maru being as good as beginning of 2019 Maru is if current Maru has just win a GSL other than that: Current Maru < start of 2019 Maru Edit: Okay I forgot where I was, if current Maru wins a WEEKENDER then current Maru > start of 2019 Maru. Because here weekenders >>>>>>>>>>> GSLs but if weekenders >>>>>>>>>>> GSLs, then why couldn't Stats make the GSL quarterfinals at all this year??? shouldn't it be easy for him? /s | ||
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Poopi
France12874 Posts
On September 05 2019 07:16 S1ngularity wrote: Weekender Maru is 8-5 in TvP in 2018 and 3-4 in 2019 though? Not sure how you're getting your numbers. And this whole weekender Maru thing doesn't really hold up. He had plenty of time to prep for Stats for GSL vs. the World. If anything, it seems to me like he doesn't care that much for ST and GSLvTW and prefers to use that time to rest. It's also worth mentioning that he usually gets knocked out by either Stats, the best protoss for years now, or sOs, his practice partner. If he has wrist / shoulder issues, resting isn't such a bad idea though | ||
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S1ngularity
Canada9 Posts
On September 05 2019 07:32 Xain0n wrote: I considered only offline games against korean Protoss since January 2018, source is Aligulac. Weekender Maru is a thing considering how hard he failed at BlizzCon and IEM, I guess he cares about those(and he only won a single non Starleague tournament in his nine years career). Every terran failed hard at IEM this year, did we forget about that? He made the Ro4 last year and lost to the champion. And as you said, sOs punished him at Blizzcon, you know, because he knows Maru that well. Team kills create weird games. His past results in weekenders are decent considering he barely attended them. He didn't even play at DreamHack, Redbull, ASUS ROG before and now, etc. HSC couldn't get Maru to play either. That's a ton of missed opportunities. The several times he did try was for IEM basically. His lack of weekender results is due to the fact that he doesn't prioritize them like he did with Proleague and Starleagues. On September 05 2019 15:47 Poopi wrote: If he has wrist / shoulder issues, resting isn't such a bad idea though I agree, and it's obvious that it was still affecting him during this group. I'm quite worried it'll worsen and affect the playoffs. | ||
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stilt
France2749 Posts
On September 05 2019 06:09 Xain0n wrote: sOs vs Maru at BlizzCon was a perfectly logical series; sOs knew Maru was proxy addicted at the time and eventually made him pay for that habit. Especially when the h2h was actually pretty close. | ||
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
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KobeSteak
39 Posts
On September 05 2019 10:50 Die4Ever wrote: but if weekenders >>>>>>>>>>> GSLs, then why couldn't Stats make the GSL quarterfinals at all this year??? shouldn't it be easy for him? /s Same reason as Maru. Stats doesn't care about GSL. He only tries and plays serious for Blizzcon and ASUS | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2647 Posts
On September 05 2019 06:09 Xain0n wrote: sOs vs Maru at BlizzCon was a perfectly logical series; sOs knew Maru was proxy addicted at the time and eventually made him pay for that habit. Well back then that was the only meta that allowed terrans to not outright die, everybody proxied back then. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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