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sneakyfox
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WCS Summer Regional Challengers North America playoff day Sunday, Jun 23 at 20:00 CEST / 11:00 PDT  2019 WCS Summer/Qualifiers/North AmericaStream: Twitch Ro8 + Ro4 + Finals  Neeb vs  Drunkenboi TLO vs FutureAstrea vs MaSaScarlett vs Vindicta | ||
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sneakyfox
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HolydaKing
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Neeb 3-0 DrunkenboiTLO 1-3 FutureAstrea 3-1 MaSaScarlett 3-1 VindictaNeeb 3-0 FutureScarlett 3-1 AstreaNeeb 4-1 Scarlett | ||
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argonautdice
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Nakajin
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On June 23 2019 05:46 argonautdice wrote: Lol almost half of the players are in Korea. That KR practice gonna bite them in the ass when Drunkenboi goes mass banshee with an svc pull | ||
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ScrubbleS
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sneakyfox
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Let''s go Future. | ||
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sudete
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edit: lol | ||
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On June 24 2019 03:45 sneakyfox wrote: DB seemed to get a bit timid after getting ahead in the game. Felt like he could have pushed Neeb much more at that point instead of sitting back and leaving the initiative to the toss. yeah, ironically Drunkenboi was too passive this game. It was his game to lose for quite some time. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 24 2019 03:45 sudete wrote: It seems unlikely that neeb would be so careless again in this series, but who knows He didn't look careless though. He just didn't look particularly good. | ||
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sneakyfox
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On June 24 2019 03:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote: He didn't look careless though. He just didn't look particularly good. Well either way the point is moot, now it's Cyber Forest  | ||
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sudete
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ilovegroov
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ilovegroov
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On June 24 2019 03:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I bet DrunkenBoi goes all-in when he has 2-7 offsuit. when he has what? | ||
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sneakyfox
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It's a poker reference. The worst possible hand in hold-em poker. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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All-in as in Poker, not all-in as in Starcraft. And time for some C R E A T I V E play. | ||
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ilovegroov
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On June 24 2019 04:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote: All-in as in Poker, not all-in as in Starcraft. And time for some C R E A T I V E play. Is Astrea vs Masa going to be somewhat close at least? | ||
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sudete
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 24 2019 04:11 ilovegroov wrote: Is Astrea vs Masa going to be somewhat close at least? I'd expect MaSa to be better generally, but I guess MaSa has the ping disadvantage in this case (since he's in Korea). edit: Actually nvm Astrea's also in Korea. | ||
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sudete
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 24 2019 04:20 sudete wrote: This could be the most NA day of all time It'll take a lot to beat the day where MaSa proxy raxed 11 games in a row. | ||
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sudete
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On June 24 2019 04:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It'll take a lot to beat the day where MaSa proxy raxed 11 games in a row. I am heartened by the fact that we could see up to 17 masa proxy rax games today | ||
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HolydaKing
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sneakyfox
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HolydaKing
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On June 24 2019 04:53 sudete wrote: Future definitely has a better shot than TLO against neeb That's true, Neeb is much better at PvZ than at PvT from what it looks like. | ||
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sneakyfox
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On June 24 2019 04:57 HolydaKing wrote: That's true, Neeb is much better at PvZ than at PvT from what it looks like. Anyone know how Future's TvP is compared to his TvZ? | ||
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HolydaKing
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On June 24 2019 05:00 sneakyfox wrote: Anyone know how Future's TvP is compared to his TvZ? Well, in the group stage he lost 2-0 to puCK and then won the regame 2-1. If that helps. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 24 2019 05:00 sneakyfox wrote: Anyone know how Future's TvP is compared to his TvZ? His TvP is pretty standard iirc. His TvZ is a bit better I'd guess since he seems to have several different nice sharp timings there, but I don't think it's that different overall? | ||
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HolydaKing
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 24 2019 05:17 sneakyfox wrote: Okay, thanks. Sounds we could get a competitive series vs Neeb. Neeb also beat him 2-0 in groups and 4-1 in the finals of the PSISTORM cup just 2 weeks ago (though I don't know how those games went). | ||
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sudete
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On June 24 2019 05:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Neeb also beat him 2-0 in groups and 4-1 in the finals of the PSISTORM cup just 2 weeks ago (though I don't know how those games went). Of the 6 games that neeb won, only the last one in the 4-1 series was close imo. Most recently, neeb beat masa 3-0 and kela 4-0 in the kings of the north tournament, but it's probably not so relevant since both of them were probably playing with some cross server lag | ||
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sneakyfox
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On June 24 2019 05:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Neeb also beat him 2-0 in groups and 4-1 in the finals of the PSISTORM cup just 2 weeks ago (though I don't know how those games went). That sounds the result you would expect from a player of Neeb's quality. But you would not expect that same player to play like he did vs Drunkenboi. Might become interesting! | ||
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HolydaKing
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sneakyfox
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On June 24 2019 06:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I hope Vindicta survives long enough to give us some nukes against Scarlett. rofl, we can always pray she has another one in her | ||
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sneakyfox
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On June 24 2019 06:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: We are going full Scarlett nuke game Well not full Scarlett, but it was pretty good | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On June 24 2019 06:41 Need wrote: Did Scarlett underestimate Vindicta or is this an evenly matched series lol probably the former. given it's super early in china/korea i'm willing to bet she didn't warm up for this. the slop was real. she looked 100x better in that game vs Maru in the GSL qualifiers recently | ||
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Loccstana
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Loccstana
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On June 24 2019 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: probably the former. given it's super early in china/korea i'm willing to bet she didn't warm up for this. the slop was real. she looked 100x better in that game vs Maru in the GSL qualifiers recently Probably the latter. Given its early afternoon right after lunch in North America, I'm willing to bet that Vindicta didn't warm for this. | ||
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Need
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On June 24 2019 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: probably the former. given it's super early in china/korea i'm willing to bet she didn't warm up for this. the slop was real. she looked 100x better in that game vs Maru in the GSL qualifiers recently Yeah seemed like she just wanted to get it over with in the midgame and wasn't ready for a real game | ||
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Xain0n
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On June 24 2019 06:45 Loccstana wrote: Probably the latter. Given its early afternoon right after lunch in North America, I'm willing to bet that Vindicta didn't warm for this. Vindicta is improving, he's quite good; I doubt Scarlett is underestimating him but she's playing from Korea, we know Scarlett's ZvT is nice even by GSL standards. | ||
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Need
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On June 24 2019 06:56 Need wrote: I'm starting to think the first game was a fluke He just needs to get to the late game without dying to his own builds before that. | ||
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Need
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sneakyfox
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A proper Scarlett nuke! | ||
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Akio
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argonautdice
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On June 24 2019 07:25 HolydaKing wrote: Vindicta is pretty good at late game TvZ with his mech style, however Scarlett also made lots of mistakes. I'm gonna say that she did pretty well playing from Korea at 6am. | ||
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Need
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Need
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 24 2019 07:54 Need wrote: I guess a Scarlett vs Future finals may be more interesting than Neeb vs Scarlett What about MaSa vs Future. | ||
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Need
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I'd just go to sleep earlier | ||
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AzAlexZ
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Edited: that looked so close | ||
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sudete
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Very well played by neeb. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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edit: I thought those battlecruisers were way too late, but I guess Scarlett got blindsided by them so they weren't. | ||
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Need
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D-light
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On June 24 2019 08:48 Need wrote: This almost feels like a real tournament Those were some amazing biles on the broodlords, Tasteless. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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There we go, not a problem is Masa is forced to move out and you have hords of lings | ||
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D-light
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On June 24 2019 08:55 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Scarlett loses from here I think? She's totally gas starved. She actually has no answers for the banshees I guess not. | ||
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argonautdice
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ZigguratOfUr
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But judging by how the other series went this is where MaSa falls back on cheese. I wonder if it'll be mainstream cheese like what Future did, or some special NA cheese like what Vindicta and Drunkenboi did. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Ciaus_Dronu
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Certainly better than the last NA challenger. | ||
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AzAlexZ
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On June 24 2019 09:50 argonautdice wrote: Neeb actually makes Protoss look broken in PvZ. against everyone, even Koreans (not named Dark) | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 24 2019 10:09 AzAlexZ wrote: against everyone, even Koreans (not named Dark) He's only played three Korean zergs this year (Dark, Leenock, Ragnarok) so let's not get ahead of ourselves. | ||
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Need
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ZigguratOfUr
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Well GG anyhow. | ||
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Need
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On June 24 2019 10:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote: This cannon rush seemed odd. Does it just lose on the spot if the zerg spots the pylon or notices that the probe went onto creep from a slightly unexpected angle? Well GG anyhow. Both probes were spotted by the overlords so Scarlett must've known it's coming but maybe didn't know how to stop this variation | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 24 2019 10:26 Need wrote: Both probes were spotted by the overlords so Scarlett must've known it's coming but maybe didn't know how to stop this variation If you scout it early enough you can pull drones to deny the buildings on the high ground as usual (and obviously at that point the probe runs around in circles dropping more buildings). It's just that that location didn't seem particularly good for the Protoss. Idk, I'd have to see more games of that cannon rush. | ||
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On June 24 2019 10:32 argonautdice wrote: Why couldn't Scarlett haven't just abandoned the high ground and build up on one base? Neeb was going to lose his nexus on the other side of the map and didn't have money for another so that was all he had. Maybe she should have but then the prism with two immortals was probably going to pick her apart anyways. | ||
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On June 24 2019 10:32 argonautdice wrote: Why couldn't Scarlett haven't just abandoned the high ground and build up on one base? Neeb was going to lose his nexus on the other side of the map and didn't have money for another so that was all he had. i guess there is a better chance if i make 1 queen at a time and try to defend lowgrund but probably still lose tbh | ||
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argonautdice
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On June 24 2019 10:47 Scarlett` wrote: 45 supply isnt enough to defend 2 immortals and a prism unfortunately Ah that makes sense. Really great, fun games today! Too bad one mistake against Neeb means gg :p | ||
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burnturn
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On June 24 2019 10:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote: He's only played three Korean zergs this year (Dark, Leenock, Ragnarok) so let's not get ahead of ourselves. For the past couple of years Neeb has hardly lost in a PvZ regardless of who they are. Except for Dark like he said. | ||
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On June 24 2019 10:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote: He's only played three Korean zergs this year (Dark, Leenock, Ragnarok) so let's not get ahead of ourselves. Yeah with Neeb's PvZ record i don't think anyone is getting ahead of themselves. | ||
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Ej_
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On June 27 2019 16:15 FataLe wrote: Yeah with Neeb's PvZ record i don't think anyone is getting ahead of themselves. http://aligulac.com/players/4495/results/?after=2017-01-01&before=&event=&race=z&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=offline&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= | ||
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On June 27 2019 16:39 Ej_ wrote: http://aligulac.com/players/4495/results/?after=2017-01-01&before=&event=&race=z&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=offline&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= Yeah. I stand by what I said. | ||
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