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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 07 2019 20:50 GMT
#221
On April 08 2019 05:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:19 Fango wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
BC rush into bio?

I might not know anything about StarCraft anymore but isn't that... incredibly heavy investment into something that won't do much for rest of the game and does not even transition smoothly?

That said, it seems to work so what do i know about StarCraft anyways.

It's actually not terrible against zerg. Was a viable build for a little bit after the BC patch


I just feel that it should not transition well into bio, i can see how it can just get all mech/air infrastructure going, so that seems like the transition to me.As i said, i am not playing starcraft of late.

EDIT: Reynor vs Serral should be the juicy one.

It's similar-ish to cloak banshee build. Instead of the cloak research you build a building.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
April 07 2019 20:50 GMT
#222
"Three months into 2019, one thing has become undeniably clear: Serral is a PatchZerg.

Serral has never been the undisputed #1 player in the world, contrary to what you may have been led to believe. Casters and Blizzard referred to Serral as the best in the world, simply because he was a foreigner who managed to crack the top ten."

very illegal and very uncool
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
April 07 2019 20:51 GMT
#223
On April 08 2019 05:50 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:39 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:34 JoeCool wrote:
The five Overminds:

Serral, Dark, soO, Rogue, Reynor

Solar>Reynor


At the moment? I doubt it.
Historically? Of course, it's not even close.

they both played at IEM Katowice. Reynor lost in the qualifiers, Solar made ro8......
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 07 2019 20:52 GMT
#224
On April 08 2019 05:51 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:50 Xain0n wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:39 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:34 JoeCool wrote:
The five Overminds:

Serral, Dark, soO, Rogue, Reynor

Solar>Reynor


At the moment? I doubt it.
Historically? Of course, it's not even close.

they both played at IEM Katowice. Reynor lost in the qualifiers, Solar made ro8......

I was going to make a snarky comment agreeing with you but I decided against it
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
April 07 2019 20:52 GMT
#225
If you're not watching the italian casting with Vasa and MiaNonna screaming like fools you're really missing out
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 20:55:36
April 07 2019 20:53 GMT
#226
On April 08 2019 05:50 argonautdice wrote:
"Three months into 2019, one thing has become undeniably clear: Serral is a PatchZerg.

Serral has never been the undisputed #1 player in the world, contrary to what you may have been led to believe. Casters and Blizzard referred to Serral as the best in the world, simply because he was a foreigner who managed to crack the top ten."


He won the world championship title which crowns him as the top until the next world championship. We can argue about 2018 up until Blizzcon(and I still value Maru over SErral because Code S > WCS), but after Blizzcon he was the world champion

Edit> Also as the true Zerg WC he looks like a true patch zerg Except Life who took it into a totally different level with matchfixing ><
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
April 07 2019 20:54 GMT
#227
so much better then yesterday form both players and casters just on another level well done today. viewership is still lacking but atleast this feels a like a championship.
ok
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
April 07 2019 20:55 GMT
#228
On April 08 2019 05:50 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:39 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:34 JoeCool wrote:
The five Overminds:

Serral, Dark, soO, Rogue, Reynor

Solar>Reynor


At the moment? I doubt it.
Historically? Of course, it's not even close.


Depends on the matchup. There's no way Reynor can 3-0 TY right now. I'd be surprised to see Reynor beat TY at all. In ZvZ Reynor is probably better.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 20:57:12
April 07 2019 20:56 GMT
#229
On April 08 2019 05:53 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:50 argonautdice wrote:
"Three months into 2019, one thing has become undeniably clear: Serral is a PatchZerg.

Serral has never been the undisputed #1 player in the world, contrary to what you may have been led to believe. Casters and Blizzard referred to Serral as the best in the world, simply because he was a foreigner who managed to crack the top ten."


He won the world championship title which crowns him as the top until the next world championship. We can argue about 2018 up until Blizzcon(and I still value Maru over SErral because Code S > WCS), but after Blizzcon he was the world champion

If World Championships matter, then it was Scarlett -> Rogue -> Maru -> Serral. Serral was only the top player starting in August or really November if you don't count invitational tournaments.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 07 2019 20:58 GMT
#230
Corruptor for Serral?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 07 2019 20:58 GMT
#231
On April 08 2019 05:56 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:53 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:50 argonautdice wrote:
"Three months into 2019, one thing has become undeniably clear: Serral is a PatchZerg.

Serral has never been the undisputed #1 player in the world, contrary to what you may have been led to believe. Casters and Blizzard referred to Serral as the best in the world, simply because he was a foreigner who managed to crack the top ten."


He won the world championship title which crowns him as the top until the next world championship. We can argue about 2018 up until Blizzcon(and I still value Maru over SErral because Code S > WCS), but after Blizzcon he was the world champion

If World Championships matter, then it was Scarlett -> Rogue -> Maru -> Serral. Serral was only the top player right at the end.

He's the world champion for 2018 or 2019, depends how you look at it, but certainly, only at the end of the year he started to play against Koreans, up until then he was just grinding WCS.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
April 07 2019 21:00 GMT
#232
On April 08 2019 05:58 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:56 Boggyb wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:53 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:50 argonautdice wrote:
"Three months into 2019, one thing has become undeniably clear: Serral is a PatchZerg.

Serral has never been the undisputed #1 player in the world, contrary to what you may have been led to believe. Casters and Blizzard referred to Serral as the best in the world, simply because he was a foreigner who managed to crack the top ten."


He won the world championship title which crowns him as the top until the next world championship. We can argue about 2018 up until Blizzcon(and I still value Maru over SErral because Code S > WCS), but after Blizzcon he was the world champion

If World Championships matter, then it was Scarlett -> Rogue -> Maru -> Serral. Serral was only the top player right at the end.

He's the world champion for 2018 or 2019, depends how you look at it, but certainly, only at the end of the year he started to play against Koreans, up until then he was just grinding WCS.

He's one of 4 world champions. The last one isn't automatically the most important.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 21:00:37
April 07 2019 21:00 GMT
#233
Uhm, Dark vs Serral at Blizzcon had the roach-corruptor all-in as counter to muta, didn't it?

Didn't work back then, though, iirc.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 07 2019 21:00 GMT
#234
On April 08 2019 06:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
Uhm, Dark vs Serral at Blizzcon had the roach-corruptor all-in as counter to muta, didn't it?

You always go corruptors if your spire is later. (if you have roaches on the ground)
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 07 2019 21:01 GMT
#235
now tech switch to lurkers or something
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 07 2019 21:01 GMT
#236
On April 08 2019 06:00 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:58 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:56 Boggyb wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:53 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:50 argonautdice wrote:
"Three months into 2019, one thing has become undeniably clear: Serral is a PatchZerg.

Serral has never been the undisputed #1 player in the world, contrary to what you may have been led to believe. Casters and Blizzard referred to Serral as the best in the world, simply because he was a foreigner who managed to crack the top ten."


He won the world championship title which crowns him as the top until the next world championship. We can argue about 2018 up until Blizzcon(and I still value Maru over SErral because Code S > WCS), but after Blizzcon he was the world champion

If World Championships matter, then it was Scarlett -> Rogue -> Maru -> Serral. Serral was only the top player right at the end.

He's the world champion for 2018 or 2019, depends how you look at it, but certainly, only at the end of the year he started to play against Koreans, up until then he was just grinding WCS.

He's one of 4 world champions. The last one isn't automatically the most important.

Again, depends how you look at it. You can look at it the Highlander way(there can be only one) or in the box way(we can have multiple champions at the same time)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
April 07 2019 21:01 GMT
#237
On April 08 2019 06:00 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:58 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:56 Boggyb wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:53 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:50 argonautdice wrote:
"Three months into 2019, one thing has become undeniably clear: Serral is a PatchZerg.

Serral has never been the undisputed #1 player in the world, contrary to what you may have been led to believe. Casters and Blizzard referred to Serral as the best in the world, simply because he was a foreigner who managed to crack the top ten."


He won the world championship title which crowns him as the top until the next world championship. We can argue about 2018 up until Blizzcon(and I still value Maru over SErral because Code S > WCS), but after Blizzcon he was the world champion

If World Championships matter, then it was Scarlett -> Rogue -> Maru -> Serral. Serral was only the top player right at the end.

He's the world champion for 2018 or 2019, depends how you look at it, but certainly, only at the end of the year he started to play against Koreans, up until then he was just grinding WCS.

He's one of 4 world champions. The last one isn't automatically the most important.

I wouldn't consider the other ones except IEM as important
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 07 2019 21:02 GMT
#238
On April 08 2019 06:00 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 06:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
Uhm, Dark vs Serral at Blizzcon had the roach-corruptor all-in as counter to muta, didn't it?

You always go corruptors if your spire is later. (if you have roaches on the ground)

I mean, of course trying to out muta with later spire is stupid.

I just say... can't muta buy enough time to guerilla it's way out of it?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 21:04:07
April 07 2019 21:02 GMT
#239
The hell was Reynor thinking with the muta vs corruptor lol

Edit: well nvm he know best
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 07 2019 21:03 GMT
#240
On April 08 2019 06:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 06:00 Ej_ wrote:
On April 08 2019 06:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
Uhm, Dark vs Serral at Blizzcon had the roach-corruptor all-in as counter to muta, didn't it?

You always go corruptors if your spire is later. (if you have roaches on the ground)

I mean, of course trying to out muta with later spire is stupid.

I just say... can't muta buy enough time to guerilla it's way out of it?

You are going to lose anyway if you cancel the spire, it's just making the best of a bad spot.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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