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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 17 2019 11:52 GMT
#1101
On March 17 2019 20:44 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:42 Akio wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:33 Mun_Su wrote:
INno finally won a tournament with huge price monney ! And he beats Maru and Serral to do it, undefeated all the way, gratz =D


Who cares about Maru vs Serral, INno vs Serral is the true rivalty

That's true to be honest, maybe the hype behind Maru vs Serral will start to settle down. Unless Maru wins 3 GSLs again and Serral wins all the WCS events


What is a WCS?

Weird Chinese Siracha
Mine gas, build tanks.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 17 2019 11:52 GMT
#1102
On March 17 2019 20:48 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:46 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:43 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
You can accuse me of having a tinfoil hat on here but Serral did not look great. Coughing, looked underslept, hands were trembling, was trying to tear his hair out, generally looked miserable. I don't think he was at 100% and he still went to 7 games in the grand finals. I'm saying this as a card-carrying GSL>>>>> guy and Inno fanboy, BTW. I just don't think Serral was on his A-game for this series.


Yes finally! Here it is guys, Serral lost because he was sick. Korean elitists probably poisoned his drinks.


Seriously though, I do kinda agree with him. After Game 4, Serral went to put on his headphones and his hands were literally shaking. He adjusted his headset several times and wiped his forehead so his hair went all weird (that's why I remembered it).

I think it was nerves and not illness, but yeah, Serral was definitely not on top of his mental game today.


Nah they both had the same conditions. Also Inno didn't look that sharp today either. Just feels like excuses to me.
I admit Serral looked super nervous and kind of scared or not in it but that's kinda his fault ain't it (can't really say which emotions were there for sure just very emotional for his standards)
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 17 2019 11:53 GMT
#1103
On March 17 2019 20:52 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:44 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:42 Akio wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:33 Mun_Su wrote:
INno finally won a tournament with huge price monney ! And he beats Maru and Serral to do it, undefeated all the way, gratz =D


Who cares about Maru vs Serral, INno vs Serral is the true rivalty

That's true to be honest, maybe the hype behind Maru vs Serral will start to settle down. Unless Maru wins 3 GSLs again and Serral wins all the WCS events


What is a WCS?

Weird Chinese Siracha

if you're talking about the hot sauce, its spelt Sriracha
otherwise I don't know what you're talking about
Faker is the GOAT!
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 17 2019 11:53 GMT
#1104
On March 17 2019 20:52 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:48 pvsnp wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:46 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:43 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
You can accuse me of having a tinfoil hat on here but Serral did not look great. Coughing, looked underslept, hands were trembling, was trying to tear his hair out, generally looked miserable. I don't think he was at 100% and he still went to 7 games in the grand finals. I'm saying this as a card-carrying GSL>>>>> guy and Inno fanboy, BTW. I just don't think Serral was on his A-game for this series.


Yes finally! Here it is guys, Serral lost because he was sick. Korean elitists probably poisoned his drinks.


Seriously though, I do kinda agree with him. After Game 4, Serral went to put on his headphones and his hands were literally shaking. He adjusted his headset several times and wiped his forehead so his hair went all weird (that's why I remembered it).

I think it was nerves and not illness, but yeah, Serral was definitely not on top of his mental game today.


Whatever it was, it looked weird. The casters were mentioning that this was fairly normal for Serral, and maybe I'm just used to GSL players having fairly robotic reactions, he just seemed kinda...off. Inno is my favorite player of all time and I think GSL is still by far the toughest tourney in the world, so I'm stoked with the result, I'm just wondering if anyone else was thrown off when they showed shots of Serral.


as we say where im from

innovation had serral shook
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HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
March 17 2019 11:54 GMT
#1105
On March 17 2019 20:40 pvsnp wrote:
Calling it here, Inno's gonna bomb out of his GSL group in last place after getting totally wasted for the next 3 days trying to spend $150k on hookers and blow.



Ah yes, the soO way
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 17 2019 11:54 GMT
#1106
On March 17 2019 20:53 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:52 Akio wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:44 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:42 Akio wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:33 Mun_Su wrote:
INno finally won a tournament with huge price monney ! And he beats Maru and Serral to do it, undefeated all the way, gratz =D


Who cares about Maru vs Serral, INno vs Serral is the true rivalty

That's true to be honest, maybe the hype behind Maru vs Serral will start to settle down. Unless Maru wins 3 GSLs again and Serral wins all the WCS events


What is a WCS?

Weird Chinese Siracha

if you're talking about the hot sauce, its spelt Sriracha
otherwise I don't know what you're talking about

My attempt at saving a horrible point with a joke has utterly failed, and I admit defeat.
Mine gas, build tanks.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 17 2019 11:54 GMT
#1107
On March 17 2019 20:52 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:48 pvsnp wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:46 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:43 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
You can accuse me of having a tinfoil hat on here but Serral did not look great. Coughing, looked underslept, hands were trembling, was trying to tear his hair out, generally looked miserable. I don't think he was at 100% and he still went to 7 games in the grand finals. I'm saying this as a card-carrying GSL>>>>> guy and Inno fanboy, BTW. I just don't think Serral was on his A-game for this series.


Yes finally! Here it is guys, Serral lost because he was sick. Korean elitists probably poisoned his drinks.


Seriously though, I do kinda agree with him. After Game 4, Serral went to put on his headphones and his hands were literally shaking. He adjusted his headset several times and wiped his forehead so his hair went all weird (that's why I remembered it).

I think it was nerves and not illness, but yeah, Serral was definitely not on top of his mental game today.


Nah they both had the same conditions. Also Inno didn't look that sharp today either. Just feels like excuses to me.
I admit Serral looked super nervous and kind of scared or not in it but that's kinda his fault ain't it (can't really say which emotions were there for sure just very emotional for his standards)

Of course these are excuses. The same people who laugh at "MAru doesn't care" are now proclaiming Serral almost dying at the stage.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
March 17 2019 11:56 GMT
#1108
Is it really that controversial to point out that Serral's ZvT is underdeveloped compared to his other matchups lol
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16022 Posts
March 17 2019 11:58 GMT
#1109
On March 17 2019 20:56 sertman wrote:
Is it really that controversial to point out that Serral's ZvT is underdeveloped compared to his other matchups lol

Yes because he was really really sick to the point he could barely hold a mouse and still almost beat the best terra in the world.
This is just further prove that he's the first SC2 bonjwa, imagine him in shape... Inno would've stood no chance
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
March 17 2019 11:59 GMT
#1110
On March 17 2019 20:58 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:56 sertman wrote:
Is it really that controversial to point out that Serral's ZvT is underdeveloped compared to his other matchups lol

Yes because he was really really sick to the point he could barely hold a mouse and still almost beat the best terra in the world.
This is just further prove that he's the first SC2 bonjwa, imagine him in shape... Inno would've stood no chance


Source? He seemed to have no "mouse holding" issues.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
March 17 2019 12:01 GMT
#1111
this tourney once again leaves a bitter taste with all the technical difficulties, lags, pauses, questionable production and the handling of the draw was the icing on the cake

imho all players were affected by it to some degree and lead to lower level of play than usual
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 17 2019 12:01 GMT
#1112
On March 17 2019 20:54 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:53 AzAlexZ wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:52 Akio wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:44 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:42 Akio wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:33 Mun_Su wrote:
INno finally won a tournament with huge price monney ! And he beats Maru and Serral to do it, undefeated all the way, gratz =D


Who cares about Maru vs Serral, INno vs Serral is the true rivalty

That's true to be honest, maybe the hype behind Maru vs Serral will start to settle down. Unless Maru wins 3 GSLs again and Serral wins all the WCS events


What is a WCS?

Weird Chinese Siracha

if you're talking about the hot sauce, its spelt Sriracha
otherwise I don't know what you're talking about

My attempt at saving a horrible point with a joke has utterly failed, and I admit defeat.

Faker is the GOAT!
Xitah
Profile Joined October 2018
49 Posts
March 17 2019 12:02 GMT
#1113
Source? He seemed to have no "mouse holding" issues.


Come on, it's obvious. At one point he even had to play with his tongue on a trackpad, instead of holding a mouse, that's how bad it was.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
March 17 2019 12:02 GMT
#1114
no one mentioned this, but in the last game Serral either made too many drones or was too late to build his roaches, Inno just walked across the map completely undeterred with a much bigger army supply and when his siege tanks were already very well setup a ton of roaches were still to hatch, we all know what happened next.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 12:20:52
March 17 2019 12:02 GMT
#1115
On March 17 2019 20:56 sertman wrote:
Is it really that controversial to point out that Serral's ZvT is underdeveloped compared to his other matchups lol


It's not, it is controversial to say that it's straight up bad.
3-4 vs INno (4-6 if you count Katowice I guess) isn't a bad results, he still probably is one of the best zvt player in the world but not has good his other match up.

Probably the best zvt of all foreigner not living in Korea, so if he work on it/ goes to KR for a while he could be fine.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 12:08:31
March 17 2019 12:04 GMT
#1116
On March 17 2019 20:56 sertman wrote:
Is it really that controversial to point out that Serral's ZvT is underdeveloped compared to his other matchups lol


No, it's very obvious to anyone that is not a rabid Serral fan who can't accept that Serral does in fact have weaknesses.

Not rocket science either, Serral is a European who lives and plays in Europe. Who can he practice with that's on the level of top Korean Terrans?
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 17 2019 12:08 GMT
#1117
Not a bad start to 2019, first soO wins and then INnoVation, very happy with the results so far and it’s nice to see INno recover from his terrible 2018
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 17 2019 12:09 GMT
#1118
On March 17 2019 21:04 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:56 sertman wrote:
Is it really that controversial to point out that Serral's ZvT is underdeveloped compared to his other matchups lol


No, it's very obvious to anyone that is not a rabid Serral fan who can't accept that Serral does in fact have weaknesses, Not rocket science either, Serral is a European who lives and plays in Europe. Who can he practice with that's on the level of top Korean Terrans?

and why the hell all top terrans always reside in korea is beyond me
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
March 17 2019 12:12 GMT
#1119
On March 17 2019 21:04 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:56 sertman wrote:
Is it really that controversial to point out that Serral's ZvT is underdeveloped compared to his other matchups lol


No, it's very obvious to anyone that is not a rabid Serral fan who can't accept that Serral does in fact have weaknesses.

Not rocket science either, Serral is a European who lives and plays in Europe. Who can he practice with that's on the level of top Korean Terrans?


As semi-rabid Serral fan, I hastily note that of course Serral has weaknesses! Question is: Relative to what or who?

Even his weakest match up cannot be said to be weak if we compare across whole field, or only if we just look at the pool of top players.

It was not like Inno had easy milkrun in a park today, right? Serral put best resistance against him than anyone else in the tournament.
Part-time Serralogist
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 12:17:13
March 17 2019 12:15 GMT
#1120
On March 17 2019 21:12 UnLarva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 21:04 pvsnp wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:56 sertman wrote:
Is it really that controversial to point out that Serral's ZvT is underdeveloped compared to his other matchups lol


No, it's very obvious to anyone that is not a rabid Serral fan who can't accept that Serral does in fact have weaknesses.

Not rocket science either, Serral is a European who lives and plays in Europe. Who can he practice with that's on the level of top Korean Terrans?


As semi-rabid Serral fan, I hastily note that of course Serral has weaknesses! Question is: Relative to what or who?

Even his weakest match up cannot be said to be weak if we compare across whole field, or only if we just look at the pool of top players.

It was not like Inno had easy milkrun in a park today, right? Serral put best resistance against him than anyone else in the tournament.


"Serral's ZvT is underdeveloped compared to his other matchups lol"

Was what the OP said, and that's a very obvious truth, since it's relative to his ZvP and ZvZ.

Certainly Serral has excellent ZvT, he's beaten Inno before after all, and took him to Game 7 here. But I would argue that Rogue and Dark have a better understanding of how to play against top Terrans–just watch how Rogue took Inno apart at IEM.
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