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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 17 2019 11:46 GMT
#1081
On March 17 2019 20:43 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
You can accuse me of having a tinfoil hat on here but Serral did not look great. Coughing, looked underslept, hands were trembling, was trying to tear his hair out, generally looked miserable. I don't think he was at 100% and he still went to 7 games in the grand finals. I'm saying this as a card-carrying GSL>>>>> guy and Inno fanboy, BTW. I just don't think Serral was on his A-game for this series.


Yes finally! Here it is guys, Serral lost because he was sick. Korean elitists probably poisoned his drinks.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 17 2019 11:46 GMT
#1082
On March 17 2019 20:40 pvsnp wrote:
Calling it here, Inno's gonna bomb out of his GSL group in last place after getting totally wasted for the next 3 days trying to spend $150k on hookers and blow.


When he has only 1 MU to practice and there's this risky sOs involved? nah
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7153 Posts
March 17 2019 11:46 GMT
#1083
On March 17 2019 20:43 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:42 AzAlexZ wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:38 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Get recked Serral. Inno played so sloppy and he still completely dominated, and crushed him. 2 times in a row now that Serral was outplayed by Inno. GG, fortunately luck not enough this time.

yes.... 4-3 is 'completely dominated and crushed', Sit the fuk down.

Well, Serral had to cheese to had a chance to not get smacked


Is that why Maru cheeses all the time?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 11:48:37
March 17 2019 11:46 GMT
#1084
Rogue defeated Soo and Innovation a couple of times.
But, he got wrecked by Serral.
Then, Serral got demolished by both Soo and Innovation in the sick close series.

From my observation,

Serral is very powerful against Protoss player.
His ZVZ is still pretty good, manage to triumph over Dark and Rogue.
But he is very weak against Terran player. Thus, if he fight against Maru, I am pretty sure that there will no close series like this.
It was just that Maru's TvT was not good, you may see that he always titled whenever he faced Bunny, TY or Innovation.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 17 2019 11:47 GMT
#1085
On March 17 2019 20:43 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
You can accuse me of having a tinfoil hat on here but Serral did not look great. Coughing, looked underslept, hands were trembling, was trying to tear his hair out, generally looked miserable. I don't think he was at 100% and he still went to 7 games in the grand finals. I'm saying this as a card-carrying GSL>>>>> guy and Inno fanboy, BTW. I just don't think Serral was on his A-game for this series.

Weather in China is also not desirable , it is super cold, so if Serral was already sick it is likely that he felt really bad for the finals
Faker is the GOAT!
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 11:49:06
March 17 2019 11:47 GMT
#1086
On March 17 2019 20:46 swarminfestor wrote:
Rogue defeated Soo and Innovation a couple of times.
But, he got wrecked by Serral.
Then, Serral got demolished by both Soo and Innovation in the sick close series.

From my observation,

Serral is very powerful against Protoss players not named Neeb.
His ZVZ is still pretty good, manage to triumph over Dark and Rogue.
But he is very weak against Terran player.Thus, if he fight against Maru, I am pretty sure that there will no close series.
It was just that Maru's TvT was not good, you may see that he always titled whenever he faced Bunny, TY or Innovation.

fixed that for you.
Edit: also Maru almost lost to Scarlett today, so nah
Faker is the GOAT!
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 11:48:48
March 17 2019 11:47 GMT
#1087
Serral losing to Innovation doesn't feel as bad as it would've felt if he has lost to Maru, who is currently objectively worse player than Innovation (the guy who just beat both of them in his last 2 games).

Now, Inno vs. sOo final soon please.

Serral vs Maru Bo7 with few thousand bucks prize money (maybe for some charitable causes so they would take part by social obligations from their fanbases) should be just sponsored and arranged out of competitive schedules to end that topic, as it seems that gods of SC2 doesn't favor that match up otherwise.
Part-time Serralogist
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 17 2019 11:47 GMT
#1088
On March 17 2019 20:45 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:42 AzAlexZ wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:38 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Get recked Serral. Inno played so sloppy and he still completely dominated, and crushed him. 2 times in a row now that Serral was outplayed by Inno. GG, fortunately luck not enough this time.

yes.... 4-3 is 'completely dominated and crushed', Sit the fuk down.

Well, Serral had to cheese to had a chance to not get smacked

yes and when Maru does it no one bats an eye.. these double standards man
Cheesing is a part of the game... It's not like Inno didn't cheese this series (once)


Terran will always be the golden child and gain all the positive bias

that's just how starcraft has been since the sc1 days
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 17 2019 11:47 GMT
#1089
On March 17 2019 20:46 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:42 AzAlexZ wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:38 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Get recked Serral. Inno played so sloppy and he still completely dominated, and crushed him. 2 times in a row now that Serral was outplayed by Inno. GG, fortunately luck not enough this time.

yes.... 4-3 is 'completely dominated and crushed', Sit the fuk down.

Well, Serral had to cheese to had a chance to not get smacked


Is that why Maru cheeses all the time?

It's possible, nobody ever asked the little guy about it.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 11:49:23
March 17 2019 11:48 GMT
#1090
On March 17 2019 20:46 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:43 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
You can accuse me of having a tinfoil hat on here but Serral did not look great. Coughing, looked underslept, hands were trembling, was trying to tear his hair out, generally looked miserable. I don't think he was at 100% and he still went to 7 games in the grand finals. I'm saying this as a card-carrying GSL>>>>> guy and Inno fanboy, BTW. I just don't think Serral was on his A-game for this series.


Yes finally! Here it is guys, Serral lost because he was sick. Korean elitists probably poisoned his drinks.


Seriously though, I do kinda agree with him. After Game 4, Serral went to put on his headphones and his hands were literally shaking. He adjusted his headset several times and wiped his forehead so his hair went all weird (that's why I remembered it).

I think it was nerves and not illness, but yeah, Serral was definitely not on top of his mental game today.
Denominator of the Universe
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 17 2019 11:48 GMT
#1091
On March 17 2019 20:44 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:40 pvsnp wrote:
Calling it here, Inno's gonna bomb out of his GSL group in last place after getting totally wasted for the next 3 days trying to spend $150k on hookers and blow.



hell he's earned it



I hope not cause he has blizzcon to qualify for !

On March 17 2019 20:43 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
You can accuse me of having a tinfoil hat on here but Serral did not look great. Coughing, looked underslept, hands were trembling, was trying to tear his hair out, generally looked miserable. I don't think he was at 100% and he still went to 7 games in the grand finals. I'm saying this as a card-carrying GSL>>>>> guy and Inno fanboy, BTW. I just don't think Serral was on his A-game for this series.



I don't know, he was probably tilted. Also INno was sometimes also sloppy in his unit control
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
March 17 2019 11:49 GMT
#1092
On March 17 2019 20:46 swarminfestor wrote:
Rogue defeated Soo and Innovation a couple of times.
But, he got wrecked by Serral.
Then, Serral got demolished by both Soo and Innovation in the sick close series.

From my observation,

Serral is very powerful against Protoss player.
His ZVZ is still pretty good, manage to triumph over Dark and Rogue.
But he is very weak against Terran player. Thus, if he fight against Maru, I am pretty sure that there will no close series like this.
It was just that Maru's TvT was not good, you may see that he always titled whenever he faced Bunny, TY or Innovation.

I wouldn't say based on him losing 3-4 to the probably best TvZer in the world that his ZvT is "very weak"
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 11:50:15
March 17 2019 11:49 GMT
#1093
Honestly fine albeut slightly sloppy games by both players. Hopefully their next meeting will happen in better conditions.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 17 2019 11:50 GMT
#1094
On March 17 2019 20:46 swarminfestor wrote:
Rogue defeated Soo and Innovation a couple of times.
But, he got wrecked by Serral.
Then, Serral got demolished by both Soo and Innovation in the sick close series.

From my observation,

Serral is very powerful against Protoss player.
His ZVZ is still pretty good, manage to triumph over Dark and Rogue.
But he is very weak against Terran player. Thus, if he fight against Maru, I am pretty sure that there will no close series like this.
It was just that Maru's TvT was not good, you may see that he always titled whenever he faced Bunny, TY or Innovation.

he still has better form than maru currently but yeah,i don't think dude could win against 2018 maru in a bo5 let alone a bo7
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 17 2019 11:50 GMT
#1095
On March 17 2019 20:37 Inflicted wrote:
what does this mean for Maru vs Serral tho


It means we'll get our hopes up again come GSL vs The World. They'll both be within a round of meeting each other again. Then this time, Maru will crap the bed and get eliminated by a Zerg this time.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 17 2019 11:51 GMT
#1096
On March 17 2019 20:48 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:46 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:43 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
You can accuse me of having a tinfoil hat on here but Serral did not look great. Coughing, looked underslept, hands were trembling, was trying to tear his hair out, generally looked miserable. I don't think he was at 100% and he still went to 7 games in the grand finals. I'm saying this as a card-carrying GSL>>>>> guy and Inno fanboy, BTW. I just don't think Serral was on his A-game for this series.


Yes finally! Here it is guys, Serral lost because he was sick. Korean elitists probably poisoned his drinks.


Seriously though, I do kinda agree with him. After Game 4, Serral went to put on his headphones and his hands were literally shaking. He adjusted his headset several times and wiped his forehead so his hair went all weird (that's why I remembered it).

I think it was nerves and not illness, but yeah, Serral was definitely not on top of his mental game today.

Adrenaline does that too. And I think that using 400 APM against someone you know you weak to while fighting in the finals over 100k (that's the diff between 1st and 2nd, right?)... My bet is on that little bastard. Also causes an erection to some falks
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 11:52:32
March 17 2019 11:51 GMT
#1097
On March 17 2019 20:47 UnLarva wrote:
Serral losing to Innovation doesn't feel as bad as it would've felt if he has lost to Maru, who is currently objectively worse player than Innovation (the guy who just beat both of them in his last 2 games).

Now, Inno vs. sOo final soon please.

Serral vs Maru Bo7 with few thousand bucks prize money (maybe for some charitable causes so they would take part by social obligations from their fanbases) should be just sponsored and arranged out of competitive schedules to end that topic, as it seems that gods of SC2 doesn't favor that match up otherwise.

1. I don't think Maru vs Serral has the hype anymore now that they aren't the 2 best players in the world anymore.
2. Maru doesn't seem like the type of player who takes these kind of showmatches seriously.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 17 2019 11:51 GMT
#1098
On March 17 2019 20:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:46 swarminfestor wrote:
Rogue defeated Soo and Innovation a couple of times.
But, he got wrecked by Serral.
Then, Serral got demolished by both Soo and Innovation in the sick close series.

From my observation,

Serral is very powerful against Protoss player.
His ZVZ is still pretty good, manage to triumph over Dark and Rogue.
But he is very weak against Terran player. Thus, if he fight against Maru, I am pretty sure that there will no close series like this.
It was just that Maru's TvT was not good, you may see that he always titled whenever he faced Bunny, TY or Innovation.

I wouldn't say based on him losing 3-4 to the probably best TvZer in the world that his ZvT is "very weak"

game 2 and 3 were not quite convincing tbh
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 17 2019 11:52 GMT
#1099
there is no shame to losing to innovation

innovation is a veteran terran legend who is capable of beating anyone throughout the years.
TL+ Member
ScrappyRabbit
Profile Joined March 2016
200 Posts
March 17 2019 11:52 GMT
#1100
On March 17 2019 20:48 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:46 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:43 ScrappyRabbit wrote:
You can accuse me of having a tinfoil hat on here but Serral did not look great. Coughing, looked underslept, hands were trembling, was trying to tear his hair out, generally looked miserable. I don't think he was at 100% and he still went to 7 games in the grand finals. I'm saying this as a card-carrying GSL>>>>> guy and Inno fanboy, BTW. I just don't think Serral was on his A-game for this series.


Yes finally! Here it is guys, Serral lost because he was sick. Korean elitists probably poisoned his drinks.


Seriously though, I do kinda agree with him. After Game 4, Serral went to put on his headphones and his hands were literally shaking. He adjusted his headset several times and wiped his forehead so his hair went all weird (that's why I remembered it).

I think it was nerves and not illness, but yeah, Serral was definitely not on top of his mental game today.


Whatever it was, it looked weird. The casters were mentioning that this was fairly normal for Serral, and maybe I'm just used to GSL players having fairly robotic reactions, he just seemed kinda...off. Inno is my favorite player of all time and I think GSL is still by far the toughest tourney in the world, so I'm stoked with the result, I'm just wondering if anyone else was thrown off when they showed shots of Serral.
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