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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 18 2019 00:53 GMT
#1221
On March 18 2019 07:58 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 07:22 Xain0n wrote:
On March 18 2019 07:21 DieuCure wrote:
As expected, Serral can't win against very top terrans in important matches.



What happened at HSC then? I don't think Inno's race was the problem here at WESG.


HSC... Lolz


Way to be ignorant. Another person that cannot see the difference in relaxed and fun casting and yet strong Esport competition.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 18 2019 01:58 GMT
#1222
On March 17 2019 18:37 Mun_Su wrote:
it's been a while since INno won a tournament, and he never won a high paying one (100k and higher) if i remember correctly. so Gogo INno !


Does no one remember he won Home Story Cup last summer against soO?
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 02:59:16
March 18 2019 02:58 GMT
#1223
Yeah, it's just that liquipedia does not list it as a Premier tournament. I'm guessing it's because the prize pool was smaller (I believe around 10k) since when Zest won HSC XVI, it had 20k prize pool and was considered Premier tournament. Still, it's odd that the one that Serral won also had 20k prize pool but is still considered Major tournament. For sake of consistency, I think they may as well make all HSCs premier tournament.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 18 2019 03:24 GMT
#1224
Geez. We get a top tier ZvT with a 4-3 result, and all we can talk about is whether one has more "premier" tournament wins than the other. I for one had a blast watching. GG Inno and GG serral.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
March 18 2019 04:07 GMT
#1225
On March 18 2019 12:24 mierin wrote:
Geez. We get a top tier ZvT with a 4-3 result, and all we can talk about is whether one has more "premier" tournament wins than the other. I for one had a blast watching. GG Inno and GG serral.


I enjoyed finals too. Was not trying to sound salty that Inno and Serral's HSCs were not considered premier tournament but just wanted to throw the point out there since someone mentioned HSC tbh.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
March 18 2019 05:56 GMT
#1226
Reminds me of the Messi/CR7 rivalry where fans on one side does not allow the other to be a good player.
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Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
March 18 2019 08:36 GMT
#1227
On March 18 2019 12:24 mierin wrote:
Geez. We get a top tier ZvT with a 4-3 result, and all we can talk about is whether one has more "premier" tournament wins than the other. I for one had a blast watching. GG Inno and GG serral.


Yeah.. can't understand that either. We saw some really good SC2 action in the finals and instead of being happy about that, we have these senseless discussion...
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
March 18 2019 08:43 GMT
#1228
On March 18 2019 17:36 Kimb3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 12:24 mierin wrote:
Geez. We get a top tier ZvT with a 4-3 result, and all we can talk about is whether one has more "premier" tournament wins than the other. I for one had a blast watching. GG Inno and GG serral.


Yeah.. can't understand that either. We saw some really good SC2 action in the finals and instead of being happy about that, we have these senseless discussion...


Yeah, me too. They say that inno defeated serral because of *insert reason here*. Same goes the other way. Like they are taking away the credit of each other's victory.
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 09:14:02
March 18 2019 09:09 GMT
#1229
My biggest problem is that we will have to wait FOREVER for a possible rematch. Or any international tournament really. Next planned one is GSL v World I guess
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
March 18 2019 09:47 GMT
#1230
On March 18 2019 18:09 Harris1st wrote:
My biggest problem is that we will have to wait FOREVER for a possible rematch. Or any international tournament really. Next planned one is GSL v World I guess


That's definitely something to be sad about... those Korea vs The Rest tourneys are always the most fun ones
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1200 Posts
March 18 2019 12:25 GMT
#1231
I think TaKeTV can help out potentially.
Commentator
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
March 18 2019 12:43 GMT
#1232
On March 18 2019 21:25 TaKeTV wrote:
I think TaKeTV can help out potentially.


Please do Dennis (or Naruto or whoever is managing this account right now)! You are my hero <3
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 18 2019 13:47 GMT
#1233
Will there be Nation Wars this year?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2019 14:10 GMT
#1234
On March 18 2019 14:56 digmouse wrote:
Reminds me of the Messi/CR7 rivalry where fans on one side does not allow the other to be a good player.

Both are excellent, but messi is the goat
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
March 18 2019 14:20 GMT
#1235
On March 18 2019 22:47 Xain0n wrote:
Will there be Nation Wars this year?

Well usually we hear about it the year before so I guess not? But one can hope, I really enjoyed last year Nation Wars where I was able to see it live. Too bad I ended up hyping Serral like crazy to my friend who doesn't follow sc as much but he lost two times to soO :x

Other than that I guess we'll have to wait until GSL vs the world to see top kor fight top foreigners again (and maybe a few foreigners in GSL now that the rules that made everyone but Scarlett leave have been reversed for the next GSL seasons)
WriterMaru
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1214 Posts
March 18 2019 15:00 GMT
#1236
Replay Pack

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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 06:38:58
March 19 2019 06:38 GMT
#1237
On March 18 2019 11:58 Anc13nt wrote:
Yeah, it's just that liquipedia does not list it as a Premier tournament. I'm guessing it's because the prize pool was smaller (I believe around 10k) since when Zest won HSC XVI, it had 20k prize pool and was considered Premier tournament. Still, it's odd that the one that Serral won also had 20k prize pool but is still considered Major tournament. For sake of consistency, I think they may as well make all HSCs premier tournament.

Yes, it's the prize-pool, i believe the cut off is at 20.000$, or around there. So sometimes HSC is listed as premier and sometimes not.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 19 2019 10:09 GMT
#1238
On March 19 2019 15:38 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 11:58 Anc13nt wrote:
Yeah, it's just that liquipedia does not list it as a Premier tournament. I'm guessing it's because the prize pool was smaller (I believe around 10k) since when Zest won HSC XVI, it had 20k prize pool and was considered Premier tournament. Still, it's odd that the one that Serral won also had 20k prize pool but is still considered Major tournament. For sake of consistency, I think they may as well make all HSCs premier tournament.

Yes, it's the prize-pool, i believe the cut off is at 20.000$, or around there. So sometimes HSC is listed as premier and sometimes not.


It's not that easy. At first I thought it was as you say and after that I thought it was determined by first prize being above 10k; still, Starcraft Starleague(SSL), whose pool is 11 k and 2k for the winner, is a Premier while Guangzhou Carnival is a Major despite having 47k as prize pool and 31k for the winner(it was played offline as well so that's not the reason). This one is not a lone exception, there are a dozen if you look for them.
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