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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 12 2019 12:16 GMT
#61
On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote:
what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol


Just play like Dark or Rogue
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 12 2019 12:17 GMT
#62
On March 12 2019 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote:
what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol


Just play like Dark or Rogue

Which games are you referring to? Have there been recent ultra late game ZvT wins?
Genuinely asking btw, not trolling
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 12 2019 12:21 GMT
#63
On March 12 2019 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote:
what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol


Just play like Dark or Rogue


Rogue just lost to Gumiho's late game terran in IEM tho
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 12 2019 12:22 GMT
#64
On March 12 2019 21:17 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2019 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote:
what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol


Just play like Dark or Rogue

Which games are you referring to? Have there been recent ultra late game ZvT wins?
Genuinely asking btw, not trolling


Scarlett beat Special in WCS a few weeks ago, but special threw imo
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 12 2019 12:22 GMT
#65
On March 12 2019 21:17 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2019 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote:
what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol


Just play like Dark or Rogue

Which games are you referring to? Have there been recent ultra late game ZvT wins?
Genuinely asking btw, not trolling


To be completely honest I havent seen any. Terrans try to end game early/mid game and Zergs usually win once they transition to GGlords.
Inno vs Serral and Gumi vs Serral was the only relevant pro game in a long time I saw go that late. And it looked like once Terran goes into BC Raven its very hard for the Zerg. Although I still think that Inno is simply a better player in the matchup than Serral is, and the longer the game goes, the better it is for Inno, he always was the best late game TvZ wasnt he?
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7090 Posts
March 12 2019 12:23 GMT
#66
I think the main problem is, Sort of doesn't know the current meta

1. Play Zerg
2. Make Nydus
3. Win game
4. Profit
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
March 12 2019 12:23 GMT
#67
On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote:
what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol

That terran style just happens to look ridiculous when it does win, it's quite okay to play against if you have a plan just need to get infestor and eventually BLs, take very patient fights with the endgame hive army and terran can't really do much then. Yes you can't really attack for what feels like forever. But you can army-split and position and spread creep. Terran barely has any anti air or anti-burrowed infestor stuff with this comp so you have a lot of freedom if you make enough BLs and can transfuse them too + sneaky infestors dodging thors/lib circles from underground. If sortof had a bit of a better game and engagement he'd win. He was playing really well with the infestors earlier but still some mistakes. It's easy to take damage or be distracted by cyclones.

I don't find this style very OP, it's just tedious to play against because you get compressed into a tennis ball while terran takes 10 bases. But it's not that big of a deal because it's all about the 4-5base army and one or two fights in the end. If you retain the god hive zerg army and unlock your 5th and 6th, terran won't have the mad bank to switch into full sky terran or ghosts or anything due to their ridiculous cyclone spending.. But if your defense or fight isn't convincing enough, they'll manage to make the switch.

It's one of the more interesting and crazy mech styles to watch. When you have a plan as zerg it can be pretty fun to play against too. Bit of a meme style from terran so if you do manage to defend well and ultimately win the big fight it's pretty rewarding.
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Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
March 12 2019 12:33 GMT
#68
SortOf plays the wrong race.. he should play Toss, play def and reactive all game and then hit with the deathball...
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 12 2019 12:36 GMT
#69
On March 12 2019 21:33 Kimb3r wrote:
SortOf plays the wrong race.. he should play Toss, play def and reactive all game and then hit with the deathball...

I think he s doing alright, lol
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
March 12 2019 12:36 GMT
#70
On March 12 2019 21:36 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2019 21:33 Kimb3r wrote:
SortOf plays the wrong race.. he should play Toss, play def and reactive all game and then hit with the deathball...

I think he s doing alright, lol


haha yeah now he just wrecked Khela with that one attack :D
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-12 12:39:13
March 12 2019 12:38 GMT
#71
And there you have it Sortof was behind but won anyway by not letting the terran transition into BC Raven. And the engagement with the infested Terrans was really good.
It was a big mistake by Kela though, he could have transitioned much sooner with the Eco advantage he had.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 12 2019 12:38 GMT
#72
Inno transitioning into mass BCs seemed to work better than this. =) He had a very decent bank for it.
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
March 12 2019 12:39 GMT
#73
that was a sick game actually.. yeah I think you're right.. instead of wasting money with those rune-bys, investing in some sick BC highteck army would've been sick
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 12 2019 12:41 GMT
#74
Is the bracket drawn today?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-12 12:43:45
March 12 2019 12:42 GMT
#75
On March 12 2019 21:23 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote:
what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol

That terran style just happens to look ridiculous when it does win, it's quite okay to play against if you have a plan just need to get infestor and eventually BLs, take very patient fights with the endgame hive army and terran can't really do much then. Yes you can't really attack for what feels like forever. But you can army-split and position and spread creep. Terran barely has any anti air or anti-burrowed infestor stuff with this comp so you have a lot of freedom if you make enough BLs and can transfuse them too + sneaky infestors dodging thors/lib circles from underground. If sortof had a bit of a better game and engagement he'd win. He was playing really well with the infestors earlier but still some mistakes. It's easy to take damage or be distracted by cyclones.

I don't find this style very OP, it's just tedious to play against because you get compressed into a tennis ball while terran takes 10 bases. But it's not that big of a deal because it's all about the 4-5base army and one or two fights in the end. If you retain the god hive zerg army and unlock your 5th and 6th, terran won't have the mad bank to switch into full sky terran or ghosts or anything due to their ridiculous cyclone spending.. But if your defense or fight isn't convincing enough, they'll manage to make the switch.

It's one of the more interesting and crazy mech styles to watch. When you have a plan as zerg it can be pretty fun to play against too. Bit of a meme style from terran so if you do manage to defend well and ultimately win the big fight it's pretty rewarding.


input from the man himself, thanks snute

i dont play zerg but my mind is blown at how you zerg players can go toe to toe with late game terran. Ghost snipe + nuke just looks so hard to play against as late game zerg. not to mention these new bc styles
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 12 2019 12:44 GMT
#76
Good job by SortOf it's time he does well in a tournament.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 12 2019 12:50 GMT
#77
Bracket draw when?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-12 13:01:53
March 12 2019 12:59 GMT
#78
Some sick match up comming up in group D
A battle of the group titan between INno and Gogojoey both at 6-0
Stephano trying to defend his title of best player in Africa against Drager with a win over Yohilo
eGGz vs TooDming with both players hopes on the line

What a time to be alive

Edit: hey it's already played
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
March 12 2019 13:01 GMT
#79
Congratulations PtitDrogo! Very good performance so far, hopefully he doesn't get rewarded with Serral first round though

One more match till money
WriterMaru
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 12 2019 13:09 GMT
#80
On March 12 2019 22:01 Poopi wrote:
Congratulations PtitDrogo! Very good performance so far, hopefully he doesn't get rewarded with Serral first round though

One more match till money

DNS is also through, so it s possible that one of the games next round gonna be an all french PvP, ensuring some cash influx to the french economy
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
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