EPTWESG 2018 Grand Final - Group Stage Day 2 - Page 2
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fastr
France902 Posts
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:08 fastr wrote: Stephano put out a good fight in game 2, but Inno's macro and late game is absolutely incredible, if Serral couldn't crack that egg I'm not sure anybody can, maybe Rogue? Rogue and Dark probably Maybe even Solar | ||
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:08 fastr wrote: Stephano put out a good fight in game 2, but Inno's macro and late game is absolutely incredible, if Serral couldn't crack that egg I'm not sure anybody can, maybe Rogue? Meomaika | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On March 12 2019 16:55 Poopi wrote: Stephano keeps disappointing again and again... So sad to see him fall even further from his peak How can you not improve at a MU after all this time losing in it, while playing in EU where there are a lot of good zergs to practice with? Only saw the 0-2 result but still -_- This so much ! How was Stephano even good once? He is so terrible I cant even find the rights words for it. And sure, he occasionally has good games against P and T, but how on earth can you be a gold leaguer in ZvZ playing on Pro level in a region full of top Zergs? Its just so strange... | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:12 MarianoSC2 wrote: This so much ! How was Stephano even good once? He is so terrible I cant even find the rights words for it. And sure, he occasionally has good games against P and T, but how on earth can you be a gold leaguer in ZvZ playing on Pro level in a region full of top Zergs? Its just so strange... Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7162 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:25 Geo.Rion wrote: Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu Well, winning a ZvT vs Inno is one of the most challenging games there are, so that's understandable. Losing vs Toodming on the other hand is avoidable. I guess that was his tournament life right there | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:25 Geo.Rion wrote: Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu He has broken 7k mmr in EU numerous times, finishes regularly in the top 8/16 of EU GM, yet he can't have a good result in tournaments. It's really weird. At this point watching him play you forget he was the foreigner GOAT once, and he is not that old. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:25 Geo.Rion wrote: Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu WCS consists of plenty of Zergs and Protosses. Having a weak ZvZ cannot be saved by good ZvT and ZvP as ZvZ makes up for almost a half of your matches. This can work in Code S where you have more Terrans. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:42 deacon.frost wrote: WCS consists of plenty of Zergs and Protosses. Having a weak ZvZ cannot be saved by good ZvT and ZvP as ZvZ makes up for almost a half of your matches. This can work in Code S where you have more Terrans. But how is he on the top of the ladder when over half of the top euro GMs are zergs? | ||
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:51 Geo.Rion wrote: But how is he on the top of the ladder when over half of the top euro GMs are zergs? Maybe he is farming T/P a bit below his MMR and not losing much? You can gain MMR playing almost only vs inferior players (but you don't gain much points and you can lose a lot of points if you happen to lose one game) I guess you need to watch his matchup winrates ingame to be sure but his ZvZ is probably his weakest here too | ||
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:51 Geo.Rion wrote: But how is he on the top of the ladder when over half of the top euro GMs are zergs? Don't know, but his winrates should be visible on his ladder account, aren't they? But I can tell you my experience, sure, I am not GM  I leave every barcode, every mirror and every random(I play unranked). yet if I play enough I can get into the league I should be in(better said - I play vs people who are in the league I belong to ). Sure, on my level ZvZ/ZvR/Zv|||| don't make 50 % of my games, on the other hand I don't win 100 % of the time the rest of the games. Mind you I have roughly 5 % win rate in ZvZ(sometimes the other player leaves faster )Think about that. Yes, I am nowhere near GM but it should be possible to be that high with bad ZvZ. It's still a ladder BO1, even BO3 in SC2 is considered volatile. | ||
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
Stephano also lost to gogojoey? Is he sick or something at this point? Thankfully he didn't qualify for France, what a shameful performance. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On March 12 2019 19:03 Poopi wrote: Am I reading liquipedia right? Stephano also lost to gogojoey? Is he sick or something at this point? Thankfully he didn't qualify for France, what a shameful performance. Knowing him, he probably threw the games after realizing he's pretty much out, went with some meme-allins probably | ||
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
On March 12 2019 19:05 Geo.Rion wrote: Knowing him, he probably threw the games after realizing he's pretty much out, went with some meme-allins probably At least PtitDrogo is carrying the french flag by beating the overrated Reynor. Hopefully he and DnS manage to qualify | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
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freeamount
China202 Posts
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zergtat
Hong Kong853 Posts
I remembered in 2010, 2011 we played tons of games together (WOL diamond only), at that time he was still so young but he keeps asking for games! S glad to see him achieved this much! | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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