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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 09 2019 05:40 GMT
#61
On March 09 2019 14:39 pvsnp wrote:
For whatever reason, I feel like sOs is gonna face TY in the Ro8. Call it a hunch.


I'm not sure if it's possible but I"d definitely love to watch that.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 09 2019 05:44 GMT
#62
On March 09 2019 14:39 pvsnp wrote:
For whatever reason, I feel like sOs is gonna face TY in the Ro8. Call it a hunch.


I'd say that's the most reasonable conclusion. Classic and sOs are much better PvP than Trap, while sOs usually loses to Classic. Bogus isn't too hot lately and TvP has always been his weakest in general, so yeah sOs will probably come 2nd.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
zodiaczerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Canada63 Posts
March 09 2019 05:47 GMT
#63
I'm going to be so sad if Rogue gets knocked out... There's still hope though!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 09 2019 05:51 GMT
#64
Cattlebruiser time.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 09 2019 05:51 GMT
#65
BCs! Finally a good game?!
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4407 Posts
March 09 2019 05:57 GMT
#66
I feel like if Gumiho just didn't throwaway those 10+ helions he would be in an amazing position and would have held this counter easily.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 09 2019 05:58 GMT
#67
Honestly when Artosis says high end unit rush never really stuck around... Isn't broodwar PvZ Shuttle Reaver opening kinda similar anyway ?
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-09 06:01:37
March 09 2019 05:58 GMT
#68
Roaches counter battlecruisers. Mondragon's advice holds true even eight years later and in a different match-up.

On March 09 2019 14:58 Noocta wrote:
Honestly when Artosis says high end unit rush never really stuck around... Isn't broodwar PvZ Shuttle Reaver opening kinda similar anyway ?


Reavers feel closer to mid tier units.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 09 2019 06:01 GMT
#69
Gumiho made 3 BCs and I really think that's too many. A lot of them open you up to hard counter units too much in this game.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 09 2019 06:03 GMT
#70
On March 09 2019 14:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Roaches counter battlecruisers. Mondragon's advice holds true even eight years later and in a different match-up.

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 14:58 Noocta wrote:
Honestly when Artosis says high end unit rush never really stuck around... Isn't broodwar PvZ Shuttle Reaver opening kinda similar anyway ?


Reavers feel closer to mid tier units.

I mean, tech tree wise reavers are basically BW's collosi retarded ancestor (though if we consider lore, it should be collosi that are smart ancestors of reavers lol), they are high tier units all things considered.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 09 2019 06:05 GMT
#71
On March 09 2019 15:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 14:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Roaches counter battlecruisers. Mondragon's advice holds true even eight years later and in a different match-up.

On March 09 2019 14:58 Noocta wrote:
Honestly when Artosis says high end unit rush never really stuck around... Isn't broodwar PvZ Shuttle Reaver opening kinda similar anyway ?


Reavers feel closer to mid tier units.

I mean, tech tree wise reavers are basically BW's collosi retarded ancestor (though if we consider lore, it should be collosi that are smart ancestors of reavers lol), they are high tier units all things considered.


I'd consider colossi kinda mid tier too. Certainly easier to get fast than battlecruisers (or equivalently carriers or a mothership).
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 09 2019 06:05 GMT
#72
The lack of micro play potential to a BC compared to a speed shuttle with a Reaver is probably the biggest difference between the two now that I think about it after Artosis' later comments.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 09 2019 06:15 GMT
#73
Beating Terran with Roach/Hydra in 2019
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Kazi25
Profile Joined July 2016
Philippines236 Posts
March 09 2019 06:16 GMT
#74
Very rare you see blinding clouds used on bio. On pro play.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 09 2019 06:17 GMT
#75
Rematch curse incoming?
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 09 2019 06:17 GMT
#76
We can count this as a late game win for soO right? His army was almost entirely roach/ravager/hydra admittedly, but he was building a greater spire.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 09 2019 06:18 GMT
#77
Man soO 2-0 Gumi, he really is a changed mam
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-09 06:20:26
March 09 2019 06:19 GMT
#78
This match would have been a ridiculous stomp with better creep spread I think. But SoO's macro and especially the attack that killed the tanks during the siege and ferry next to the gold minerals was a big deal to get time for Viper and Hydra production.

Gumiho was on one factory production the whole time, but never got past 3 tanks in his army, big deal against SoO's composition imo.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-09 06:24:11
March 09 2019 06:21 GMT
#79
On March 09 2019 15:18 Nakajin wrote:
Man soO 2-0 Gumi, he really is a changed mam


Tbf RagnaroK also 2-0ed GuMi, so I'm not sure how much of an achievement beating GuMiho is.

On March 09 2019 15:19 Noocta wrote:
This match would have been a ridiculous stomp with better creep spread I think. But SoO's macro and especially the attack that killed the tanks during the siege and ferry next to the gold minerals was a big deal to get time for Viper and Hydra production.

Gumiho was on one factory production the whole time, but never got past 3 tanks in his army, big deal against SoO's composition imo.


Tanks are tough. If you have a massive number of tanks yes they can be quite good against soO's comp., but if you just have a handful and are still building the tank count, soO makes a few ravagers, biles the tanks and wins easily.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 09 2019 06:28 GMT
#80
On March 09 2019 15:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 15:19 Noocta wrote:
This match would have been a ridiculous stomp with better creep spread I think. But SoO's macro and especially the attack that killed the tanks during the siege and ferry next to the gold minerals was a big deal to get time for Viper and Hydra production.

Gumiho was on one factory production the whole time, but never got past 3 tanks in his army, big deal against SoO's composition imo.


Tanks are tough. If you have a massive number of tanks yes they can be quite good against soO's comp., but if you just have a handful and are still building the tank count, soO makes a few ravagers, biles the tanks and wins easily.


Oh for sure. I don't think you ever increase the number of Factyories, but if you keep the tanks alive better, and get up to 5 or 6, probably does wonder to not get on the backfoot of map dominance.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
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