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Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
March 02 2019 18:30 GMT
#1641
stats winning this tourney
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 02 2019 18:30 GMT
#1642
On March 03 2019 03:29 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.

its pretty baffling to see Stats drop out of GSL to MC of all people and then he comes to IEM and goes on a tear through all the protoss


MC is magic. Don't question it.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 02 2019 18:31 GMT
#1643
On March 03 2019 03:17 Rodya wrote:
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On March 03 2019 03:10 Xain0n wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:52 Doko wrote:
rip about 12k viewers after serral lost


Will we lose more viewers from Serral going out or every Terran going out?

I will never understand why people cheer for a foreigner for no reason other than them being born outside of korea


You see what I mean when i mention hate?
Here's another one implying Serral is loved because he is not korean.
That's such an incredible bias.

Might be that people cheer for Serral because he is unbelievably good?
Five meaningless and boring series then there comes a ZvZ involving Serral and you have incredible games.

His streak and period of domination are unprecedent, the weird fact was actually him not dropping a game in the extremely volatile Sc2.

This weekend he showed up with uncharacteristic errors, weird indecisiveness and questionable decision making by his standards still looking an absolute top tier player.
He deserves nothing but respect.

If you aren't new to sc2 you know that people have had an undo amount of love for Snute, Mana, Naniwa, etc. because of their foreigner status, and Serral's fanclub probably hasn't grown much since winning GSL vs The World.

By the way, his dominance isn't unprecedented, because Serral barely plays against top players. Life and Innovation both had stronger periods of dominance, even if they didn't win 25 series in a row or whatever. Not to mention Maru's 2018.


Man, there is no longer streak and nobody ever won as many consecutive premier tournaments.
The streak is the longest even if we count only koreans. Maru's 2018 is out of the question, Inno actually got reverse swept during his period of dominance while MVP and Life indeed looked extremely dominating in 2011 and 2012; the scene was different tho so that they didn't remain undefeated as long and didn't win as many tournaments.
I am not saying Serral is the GOAT and you will never take into consideration non korean tournaments because they are nothing to your eyes. That's a mere opinion, results are results.

People surely loved foreigners becauase of their ethnicity but loved korean as well because of their skill; no american player was ever called Captain America if I am not wrong.
Serral has reached another level, he is by far the best foreigner all time and was the best player in 2018(I know you won't agree, it's pointless to let me know that another time); saying he is highly regarded only because he is non korean is highly offensive.

As for the immature fans, well, you guys don't seem me very mature to me. I didn't see you guys praising Serral's skill when he won BlizzCon despite you not liking him, a good sport would have. I, for instance, would very much compliment soO today for his killer instinct.

Considering how unpopular sc2 is in Korea, it seems me korean have a good number of fans. Especially here on Team Liquid.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 02 2019 18:31 GMT
#1644
On March 03 2019 03:30 Akio wrote:
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On March 03 2019 03:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Oh wow ence won

Are they in the finals now?

Yeah. Would have been such a great day tomorrow with Serral
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
March 02 2019 18:31 GMT
#1645
I didn't realise I would live to see ENCE CSGO > ENCE SC2 this year.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 18:31 GMT
#1646
On March 03 2019 03:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:29 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.

its pretty baffling to see Stats drop out of GSL to MC of all people and then he comes to IEM and goes on a tear through all the protoss


MC is magic. Don't question it.

remember when he came back in proleague and randomly dumped on Zest?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 02 2019 18:31 GMT
#1647
On March 03 2019 03:30 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Oh wow ence won

Are they in the finals now?


Yes, against Astralis or MiBR. If it's the danes second place will be a nice performance.
Zest fanboy.
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
March 02 2019 18:31 GMT
#1648
On March 03 2019 03:23 darklycid wrote:
So how the fuck did stats lose to MC in gsl o.0


MC knows how to bullshit and 1-base your way in PvP.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 02 2019 18:31 GMT
#1649
On March 03 2019 03:30 JJH777 wrote:
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On March 03 2019 03:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:26 JJH777 wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:59 Elentos wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:56 JJH777 wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:50 JJH777 wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Good games. I hope soO doesn't get another 2nd place... And Serral still manages to look pretty good in defeat (unlike Maru).


Now that Terran is out of the tournament I think Maru looks very good. His 2-0 vs Dark is the single most impressive thing a Terran did during this tournament. It is more impressive than Innovation 2-1ing Serral. While Serral is probably the best ZvP and ZvZer (despite this loss to Soo) I don't even think he is top 3 in ZvT.


Do you really? Leenock and Neeb played well, but not that well.


He looked off but he still barely lost to them. Almost every terran in this tournament lost to someone you wouldn't normally expect them to.

Maru probably had the most impressive single match performance of the whole tournament for Terran but at the end of the day he was still out in the group stage. Hard to say he performed strongly with that in mind.


All Terrans were out in the group stage besides TY who had a 3 terran group and really easy zergs. Maru would have gotten out of that group as well.


If you can lose to Leenock you can lose to Solar (RagnaroK is Lambo in this analogy).


Solar wasn't in TYs group. I'm not saying Maru would have beaten Solar. I'm saying if Maru and TY swapped groups Maru probably gets out and TY doesn't.


Oh yeah probably. My mistake I was thinking of Group C. Though the way he was playing he probably wouldn't have gotten any further than TY.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
March 02 2019 18:32 GMT
#1650
On March 03 2019 03:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:29 MASTERCAKES wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.



He's really struggled with PvP since they took out the mothership core.


Somewhat unfortunate since he came to prominence by winning a Protoss-heavy tournament.

Adept toss.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 02 2019 18:33 GMT
#1651
On March 03 2019 03:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:30 Akio wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Oh wow ence won

Are they in the finals now?

Yeah. Would have been such a great day tomorrow with Serral

:/ Torille jos ENCE voittaa Astralisin?
Mine gas, build tanks.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 02 2019 18:33 GMT
#1652
On March 03 2019 03:32 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:29 MASTERCAKES wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.



He's really struggled with PvP since they took out the mothership core.


Somewhat unfortunate since he came to prominence by winning a Protoss-heavy tournament.

Adept toss.


ping pong toss to be accurate!
Zest fanboy.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 02 2019 18:33 GMT
#1653
On March 03 2019 03:31 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:29 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.

its pretty baffling to see Stats drop out of GSL to MC of all people and then he comes to IEM and goes on a tear through all the protoss


MC is magic. Don't question it.

remember when he came back in proleague and randomly dumped on Zest?


Is MC StarCraft 2's Boxer? I remember that one Proleague game where he randomly showed up and spanked Oz' at-the-time ace Zerg (who was inexplicably not Jaedong).
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
March 02 2019 18:33 GMT
#1654
On March 03 2019 03:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:29 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.

its pretty baffling to see Stats drop out of GSL to MC of all people and then he comes to IEM and goes on a tear through all the protoss


MC is magic. Don't question it.

He's the only likable protoss player.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 18:33 GMT
#1655
On March 03 2019 03:32 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:29 MASTERCAKES wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.



He's really struggled with PvP since they took out the mothership core.


Somewhat unfortunate since he came to prominence by winning a Protoss-heavy tournament.

Adept toss.

yeah disrupters have almost completely disappeared from the matchup, hurt him a lot
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
March 02 2019 18:33 GMT
#1656
On March 03 2019 03:32 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:29 MASTERCAKES wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.



He's really struggled with PvP since they took out the mothership core.


Somewhat unfortunate since he came to prominence by winning a Protoss-heavy tournament.

Adept toss.

Actually Neeb's most known for adepts in PVZ while his PVP dominance in 2016 was mostly RELIABALLS
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 18:33 GMT
#1657
On March 03 2019 03:33 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:29 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.

its pretty baffling to see Stats drop out of GSL to MC of all people and then he comes to IEM and goes on a tear through all the protoss


MC is magic. Don't question it.

He's the only likable protoss player.

how can you dislike Stats? he's like the nicest guy ever
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 02 2019 18:34 GMT
#1658
On March 03 2019 03:33 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:30 Akio wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Oh wow ence won

Are they in the finals now?

Yeah. Would have been such a great day tomorrow with Serral

:/ Torille jos ENCE voittaa Astralisin?

Meh, not even SC2.
why even
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-02 18:36:13
March 02 2019 18:35 GMT
#1659
I really dislike this build from Neeb, it just looks bad, similar army and probes while down a nexus
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
March 02 2019 18:36 GMT
#1660
On March 03 2019 03:33 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:33 nojok wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:29 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.

its pretty baffling to see Stats drop out of GSL to MC of all people and then he comes to IEM and goes on a tear through all the protoss


MC is magic. Don't question it.

He's the only likable protoss player.

how can you dislike Stats? he's like the nicest guy ever

He plays protoss, MC played the opponent.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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