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[IEM XIII] Katowice 2019 - Playoffs - Day 1 - Page 82

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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 18:27 GMT
#1621
fat archons
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 02 2019 18:28 GMT
#1622
PvP should just display the immortal count somewhere because that's pretty much what it comes down to most of the times
Mine gas, build tanks.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 18:28 GMT
#1623
this looks ugly for Neeb, that army is massive
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 02 2019 18:28 GMT
#1624
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 02 2019 18:28 GMT
#1625
On March 03 2019 03:24 starkiller123 wrote:
If Serral was still in the tournament this game would at least be 100x as exciting

I dunno, Stats is playing better PvP so far which doesn't really make the games look exciting. I have more hopes for Dark vs Solar.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16057 Posts
March 02 2019 18:28 GMT
#1626
Stats' PvP is perfect
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 02 2019 18:28 GMT
#1627
Spirit of Idra haunts NA still
Neosteel Enthusiast
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 02 2019 18:28 GMT
#1628
Another 3-0?
Mine gas, build tanks.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 02 2019 18:29 GMT
#1629
Oh wow ence won
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 02 2019 18:29 GMT
#1630
On March 03 2019 03:26 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 02:59 Elentos wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:56 JJH777 wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:50 JJH777 wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Good games. I hope soO doesn't get another 2nd place... And Serral still manages to look pretty good in defeat (unlike Maru).


Now that Terran is out of the tournament I think Maru looks very good. His 2-0 vs Dark is the single most impressive thing a Terran did during this tournament. It is more impressive than Innovation 2-1ing Serral. While Serral is probably the best ZvP and ZvZer (despite this loss to Soo) I don't even think he is top 3 in ZvT.


Do you really? Leenock and Neeb played well, but not that well.


He looked off but he still barely lost to them. Almost every terran in this tournament lost to someone you wouldn't normally expect them to.

Maru probably had the most impressive single match performance of the whole tournament for Terran but at the end of the day he was still out in the group stage. Hard to say he performed strongly with that in mind.


All Terrans were out in the group stage besides TY who had a 3 terran group and really easy zergs. Maru would have gotten out of that group as well.


If you can lose to Leenock you can lose to Solar (RagnaroK is Lambo in this analogy).
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
March 02 2019 18:29 GMT
#1631
On March 03 2019 03:28 Akio wrote:
PvP should just display the immortal count somewhere because that's pretty much what it comes down to most of the times

Archons matter more than immortals tbh
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
March 02 2019 18:29 GMT
#1632
On March 03 2019 03:28 Akio wrote:
PvP should just display the immortal count somewhere because that's pretty much what it comes down to most of the times

That and an archon counter. If you have more of both it seems like you pretty much always win.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 02 2019 18:29 GMT
#1633
We really need a discussion to know if Korean fans or foreign fans are the best.

Does the soft lock of english barrier favor foreign fans?
Is the GSL being at 4 am mean korean fans have more passion?
How do we take into consideration the large potential of lurker?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
MASTERCAKES
Profile Joined March 2012
United States127 Posts
March 02 2019 18:29 GMT
#1634
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.



He's really struggled with PvP since they took out the mothership core.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 02 2019 18:29 GMT
#1635
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.

its pretty baffling to see Stats drop out of GSL to MC of all people and then he comes to IEM and goes on a tear through all the protoss
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16057 Posts
March 02 2019 18:29 GMT
#1636
On March 03 2019 03:29 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:28 Akio wrote:
PvP should just display the immortal count somewhere because that's pretty much what it comes down to most of the times

That and an archon counter. If you have more of both it seems like you pretty much always win.

unless the opponent has 20 carriers
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
March 02 2019 18:30 GMT
#1637
On March 03 2019 03:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:26 JJH777 wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:59 Elentos wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:56 JJH777 wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:50 JJH777 wrote:
On March 03 2019 02:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Good games. I hope soO doesn't get another 2nd place... And Serral still manages to look pretty good in defeat (unlike Maru).


Now that Terran is out of the tournament I think Maru looks very good. His 2-0 vs Dark is the single most impressive thing a Terran did during this tournament. It is more impressive than Innovation 2-1ing Serral. While Serral is probably the best ZvP and ZvZer (despite this loss to Soo) I don't even think he is top 3 in ZvT.


Do you really? Leenock and Neeb played well, but not that well.


He looked off but he still barely lost to them. Almost every terran in this tournament lost to someone you wouldn't normally expect them to.

Maru probably had the most impressive single match performance of the whole tournament for Terran but at the end of the day he was still out in the group stage. Hard to say he performed strongly with that in mind.


All Terrans were out in the group stage besides TY who had a 3 terran group and really easy zergs. Maru would have gotten out of that group as well.


If you can lose to Leenock you can lose to Solar (RagnaroK is Lambo in this analogy).


Solar wasn't in TYs group. I'm not saying Maru would have beaten Solar. I'm saying if Maru and TY swapped groups Maru probably gets out and TY doesn't.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 02 2019 18:30 GMT
#1638
On March 03 2019 03:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Oh wow ence won

Are they in the finals now?
Mine gas, build tanks.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 02 2019 18:30 GMT
#1639
On March 03 2019 03:29 MASTERCAKES wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 03:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 03 2019 03:27 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm maybe it wasn't typical Neeb modesty when he said he wasn't confident in the MU


Sucks to play against Stats if you're not confident in your vs. Protoss o_0.



He's really struggled with PvP since they took out the mothership core.


Somewhat unfortunate since he came to prominence by winning a Protoss-heavy tournament.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 02 2019 18:30 GMT
#1640
On March 03 2019 03:29 Nakajin wrote:
We really need a discussion to know if Korean fans or foreign fans are the best.

Does the soft lock of english barrier favor foreign fans?
Is the GSL being at 4 am mean korean fans have more passion?
How do we take into consideration the large potential of lurker?


How do you differentiate Maru fans from generic terran balance whiners?

The questions only become more difficult from there onwards.
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