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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
After not losing for one entire year he gets defeated having already advanced first in his group; I don't think he's clueless in lategame ZvT but he looked like and lost deservingly, he would lose again by playing so passively. Before being worried I'd wait for Serral to actually lose a tournament worthy series, he's very quick to adapt and he will be playing bo5+ from now on. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On March 02 2019 01:54 RaFox17 wrote: Luckily he has been killing koreans left and right  Indeed he has, which just makes the first part of that point even stronger. No one would EVER be calling out the B word if it was just his Korean kill streak that was being considered, after all Maru's kill streak last year was far more impressive. People are only caring about the streak because of how long it was and it was only as long as it was because he was protected from his best competitors for the majority of the year. Don't get me wrong I am a huge fan of Serral, but his legacy has a MASSIVE asterisk next to it as long as WCS is regionlocked and he refuses to compete in GSL. As long as both of those things are true, I will NEVER call him a bonjwa. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On March 02 2019 01:55 Soke wrote: soO floating at least 1k/1k the whole game, even while losing. His macro was definitely off Should've built some Nexuses  .(It's a joke about one of Neeb's games yesterday, if you're confused). | ||
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egrimm
Poland1199 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On March 02 2019 01:54 JoeCool wrote: Well Serral already played 4 game prior to the match vs innovation. I think the games where pretty demanding while innovation on the other hand didn't put that much energy into them. Maybe that's an explanation. ? thats a ridiculous explanation | ||
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herwo
199 Posts
lol wouldn't bank on that based on this game.. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
On March 02 2019 01:54 JoeCool wrote: Well Serral already played 4 game prior to the match vs innovation. I think the games where pretty demanding while innovation on the other hand didn't put that much energy into them. Maybe that's an explanation. yeah Inno didn't put much energy into the first games because he only cared about the game vs Serral. Sure | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
On March 02 2019 01:58 herwo wrote: lol wouldn't bank on that based on this game.. he also lost in the late vs gumi tho | ||
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dysenterymd
1237 Posts
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TerranFan
48 Posts
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On March 02 2019 01:58 Charoisaur wrote: yeah Inno didn't put much energy into the first games because he only cared about the game vs Serral. Sure I don't know and to be honest I don't care either. Maybe Serral just didn't know what to do. Doesn't matter though. | ||
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stilt
France2749 Posts
On March 02 2019 01:58 herwo wrote: lol wouldn't bank on that based on this game.. Two actually which lasted 40 minutes, he had the time to make adjustements. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 02 2019 01:57 Vindicare605 wrote: Indeed he has, which just makes the first part of that point even stronger. No one would EVER be calling out the B word if it was just his Korean kill streak that was being considered, after all Maru's kill streak last year was far more impressive. People are only caring about the streak because of how long it was and it was only as long as it was because he was protected from his best competitors for the majority of the year. Don't get me wrong I am a huge fan of Serral, but his legacy has a MASSIVE asterisk next to it as long as WCS is regionlocked and he refuses to compete in GSL. As long as both of those things are true, I will NEVER call him a bonjwa. No way on earth Maru's kill streak was better, Serral's win streak korean was bigger and more impressive even considering koreans only. IIRC it was 16-0 before today which makes it 20-0 before losing, compared to Maru's 16-1. Think whatever you like, Serral still advanced first in the so-called group of Death today. The unusual thing is usually not losing series, not the opposite. People won tournaments in the past by advancing third in their groups and now a single 1-2 causes all this fuss? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On March 02 2019 01:59 TerranFan wrote: Group C was indeed the group of death. That Innovation and Rogue didn't move on I did not expect that at all. I'm not surprised that Inno didn't advance. I am surprised that neither he nor Gumiho did. We're down to TY and Bunny to give us ANY terrans in the Ro8. I was not expecting that at all before the group stage started and it's really upsetting. | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
As rational as Maru not caring about tournaments that are not GSL | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On March 02 2019 01:58 dysenterymd wrote: Serral is still on track to win every premier tournament he enters for an entire calendar years, just needs to win IEM and WESG. Sadly TY is in these tournaments too | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Not in WESG unfortunately  | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On March 02 2019 02:01 Xain0n wrote: No way on earth Maru's kill streak was better, Serral's win streak korean was bigger and more impressive even considering koreans only. IIRC it was 16-0 before today which makes it 20-0 before losing, compared to Maru's 16-1. Think whatever you like, Serral still advanced first in the so-called group of Death today. The unusual thing is usually not losing series, not the opposite. People won tournaments in the past by advancing third in their groups and now a single 1-2 causes all this fuss? I dont give a single shit about the fact that Innovation beat Serral today. In fact I'm here arguing that Serral's streak is blown completely out of proportion because a majority of it was regionlocked. We've seen tremendous kill streaks throughout SC2's history. Serral's isn't special, it's only special because he's a foreigner, and when you start taking those special considerations into perspective there are other factors like regionlocking that need to be considered also. Also, 4 straight GSL championships is WAY more impressive than anything Serral has done so far. That is a fact. | ||
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