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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 01 2019 16:50 GMT
#1261
On March 02 2019 01:49 Poopi wrote:
Will TY be the savior we need?


For sure lol, he isn't a patch/gimmicky player unlike the others top T
TL+ Member
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2019 16:50 GMT
#1262
at least this series proves that Serral fans are as good as kr fan to create mistake for their champ :D
Zest fanboy.
Amarillo Caballero
Profile Joined May 2014
United States72 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 16:50:59
March 01 2019 16:50 GMT
#1263
Now we just need Scarlett, soO, and Dear to make it out for perfect Round of 12 racial balance.
DreamlnCode
Profile Joined December 2018
United Kingdom77 Posts
March 01 2019 16:50 GMT
#1264
Innovation taking apart Serral like a computer. That was a good series.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 16:51:12
March 01 2019 16:50 GMT
#1265
On March 02 2019 01:45 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 01:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The streak Innovation stopped:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

it's funny somehow that it's soO who beat Serral before

twice


You have to add that game vs AI in LAN (lol) and today's victories against Rogue, Solar, Ragnarok and Gumiho.
Cheers!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2019 16:51 GMT
#1266
On March 02 2019 01:45 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 01:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The streak Innovation stopped:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

it's funny somehow that it's soO who beat Serral before

twice


these games were pure strategical outplayed (aka muta into lategame ZvZ) by soO despite a worse unit control.
Zest fanboy.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 01 2019 16:52 GMT
#1267
On March 02 2019 01:47 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 01:44 D-light wrote:
On March 02 2019 01:42 DieuCure wrote:
If you can't win against INno in late game you don't stand a chance against TY.

This meaningless series certainly tells us that 100%


He still tried hard.

And if it was meaningless it was too for INno, Serral isn't that strong in ZvT, but since he dont have to play ZvT inWCS ...

In certain ways obviously, but not sure why he'd show everything he's got.

And at least Inno was playing for not getting 0-5'd and beating Serral.
why even
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
March 01 2019 16:52 GMT
#1268
On March 02 2019 01:47 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
That Serral vs Innovation is bothering me. At no point Serral was winning the game. He was just sitting around when he could have killed several time Innovation bases.


Yes, it's really frustrating, and the defense of the botton east base which was nuked by the ghost was horrible. Innovation kept using the same spot and serral never reacted to it.
At least, we know his weakness.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
March 01 2019 16:53 GMT
#1269
On March 02 2019 01:44 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 01:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The streak Innovation stopped:

[image loading]


If it walks like a Bonjwa and sounds like a Bonjwa...


Relax. The vast majority of his wins have been vs a foreigner scene that has been regionlocked.

I don't care how many wins he has, regionlocked foreigner kills do not count.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
March 01 2019 16:54 GMT
#1270
On March 02 2019 01:52 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 01:47 DieuCure wrote:
On March 02 2019 01:44 D-light wrote:
On March 02 2019 01:42 DieuCure wrote:
If you can't win against INno in late game you don't stand a chance against TY.

This meaningless series certainly tells us that 100%


He still tried hard.

And if it was meaningless it was too for INno, Serral isn't that strong in ZvT, but since he dont have to play ZvT inWCS ...

In certain ways obviously, but not sure why he'd show everything he's got.

And at least Inno was playing for not getting 0-5'd and beating Serral.


Dunno, it seems obvious he has no idea how to play against this style.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 01 2019 16:54 GMT
#1271
On March 02 2019 01:50 imre wrote:
at least this series proves that Serral fans are as good as kr fan to create mistake for their champ :D

Examples pls
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
March 01 2019 16:54 GMT
#1272
On March 02 2019 01:53 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 01:44 Bagration wrote:
On March 02 2019 01:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The streak Innovation stopped:

[image loading]


If it walks like a Bonjwa and sounds like a Bonjwa...


Relax. The vast majority of his wins have been vs a foreigner scene that has been regionlocked.

I don't care how many wins he has, regionlocked foreigner kills do not count.

Luckily he has been killing koreans left and right
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
March 01 2019 16:54 GMT
#1273
On March 02 2019 01:47 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
That Serral vs Innovation is bothering me. At no point Serral was winning the game. He was just sitting around when he could have killed several time Innovation bases.


Well Serral already played 4 game prior to the match vs innovation. I think the games where pretty demanding while innovation on the other hand didn't put that much energy into them. Maybe that's an explanation.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
March 01 2019 16:55 GMT
#1274
BUNNYYY
I Protoss winner, could it be?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 16:57:17
March 01 2019 16:55 GMT
#1275
I mean, i don't know about you guys but i first opened Serral vs Inno at game 2 ~20 minutes in and i instantly knew Serral has lost because he had a bunch of brood lords. After that 20 minute long animation, i went away for 10 minutes, come back and see Serral in decent position, switch screen for 5 minutes, come back, see brood lords again and once again i know Serral has lost. It does not help that Serral's overall play seemed a bit off, because i recall zergs used to have better reaction times even in lategame, fatigue maybe.

What am i doing wrong?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
March 01 2019 16:55 GMT
#1276
soO floating at least 1k/1k the whole game, even while losing. His macro was definitely off
Djsoke
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
March 01 2019 16:55 GMT
#1277
soO..

:/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 01 2019 16:56 GMT
#1278
Bunjwa v TY grand finals inc
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
March 01 2019 16:56 GMT
#1279
On March 02 2019 01:54 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 01:47 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
That Serral vs Innovation is bothering me. At no point Serral was winning the game. He was just sitting around when he could have killed several time Innovation bases.


Well Serral already played 4 game prior to the match vs innovation. I think the games where pretty demanding while innovation on the other hand didn't put that much energy into them. Maybe that's an explanation.


Maybe, or his approach is wrong and he would have to rethink it.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 01 2019 16:56 GMT
#1280
On March 02 2019 01:53 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 01:44 Bagration wrote:
On March 02 2019 01:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The streak Innovation stopped:

[image loading]


If it walks like a Bonjwa and sounds like a Bonjwa...


Relax. The vast majority of his wins have been vs a foreigner scene that has been regionlocked.

I don't care how many wins he has, regionlocked foreigner kills do not count.

With the 4 extra offline korean wins today + the 16 offline koreans beaten on this list it's still something
Neosteel Enthusiast
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