• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:28
CEST 12:28
KST 19:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature0Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy8uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event17Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments7[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Is there a way to see if 2 accounts=1 person? uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
BW AKA finder tool ASL 20 HYPE VIDEO! BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI The year 2050
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 844 users

[IEM XIII] Katowice 2019 - Group Stage (RO24) - Day 2 - Pa…

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 116 Next
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 01 2019 13:32 GMT
#541
Serral hyyyyyp
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 01 2019 13:33 GMT
#542
On March 01 2019 22:32 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:30 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:25 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
If no terrans (can't believe this is even possible) are through to RO12 - we'll definitely see a terran nerf.

I expect them to nerf early game terran a bit more so terrans are more willing to go into lategame and use Thors.

Thor and BC become a single unit working like the viking.


Yeah it would make sense. Sizes are similar and everything
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
March 01 2019 13:33 GMT
#543
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

I was really looking forward for this group stages as it looked stacked(RL stuff came into play so i just started watching now) but Serral looks dominating again.

Maru played like crap until it was too late. After that he started to play very well again.

Maru is weird
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 01 2019 13:34 GMT
#544
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

He just made a lot of mistakes tbh. Don't really know if it's a slump or just a bad day/travel.

I saw his ladder games against Zest the other day and he looked absolutely insane, made protoss look completely lost in the lategame with constant multitasking. But he didn't show any of that here.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 13:35:13
March 01 2019 13:34 GMT
#545
On March 01 2019 22:31 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

I was really looking forward for this group stages as it looked stacked(RL stuff came into play so i just started watching now) but Serral looks dominating again.

I think at this point it's a mix of him not playing as well and terran being bad on this patch, because other terrans seem to struggle just as much.


For tvp I understand but in zvt these results make me a bit clueless considering the creep/hydra/queen nerf... I mean for sure the situation was not very great prior to the patch but it seems like it has worsened.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 01 2019 13:35 GMT
#546
On March 01 2019 22:26 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:24 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:22 kajtarp wrote:
Kinda expected Inno to go out. But i tought its because Serral, Rogue, and Solar will beat him. But didn't think he will go out so convincingly. Already 0-3 and didn't even play Serral...

I'm afraid the next big one going out is going to be soO....


soO can't go out he need to be the one breaking Serral streak in the grand final. It's the only way it can be right.

soO beat Serral 2-0 on LAN last year but no one remembers because technically it was two bo1s played after eachother -_-


Serral was defeated by soO before his streak started and he beat him 2-1 at HSC.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 01 2019 13:35 GMT
#547
On March 01 2019 22:34 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:31 Poopi wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

I was really looking forward for this group stages as it looked stacked(RL stuff came into play so i just started watching now) but Serral looks dominating again.

I think at this point it's a mix of him not playing as well and terran being bad on this patch, because other terrans seem to struggle just as much.


For pvt I understand but in zvt these results make me a bit clueless considering the creep/hydra/queen nerf... I mean for sure the situation was not very great prior to the patch but it seems like it has worsened.

ZvT was pretty Z favoured pre patch. It looked balanced/maybe T favoured now but the results here don't support that.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 01 2019 13:36 GMT
#548
On March 01 2019 22:34 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

He just made a lot of mistakes tbh. Don't really know if it's a slump or just a bad day/travel.

I saw his ladder games against Zest the other day and he looked absolutely insane, made protoss look completely lost in the lategame with constant multitasking. But he didn't show any of that here.


Jet lag doesnt exist, you filthy Korean elitist.
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 01 2019 13:36 GMT
#549
On March 01 2019 22:34 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:31 Poopi wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

I was really looking forward for this group stages as it looked stacked(RL stuff came into play so i just started watching now) but Serral looks dominating again.

I think at this point it's a mix of him not playing as well and terran being bad on this patch, because other terrans seem to struggle just as much.


For tvp I understand but in zvt these results make me a bit clueless considering the creep/hydra/queen nerf... I mean for sure the situation was not very great prior to the patch but it seems like it has worsened.


I don't really get it either to be honest nydus is stupid but it's not what make the difference in most cases, maybe it's the maps
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
March 01 2019 13:36 GMT
#550
On March 01 2019 22:34 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:31 Poopi wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

I was really looking forward for this group stages as it looked stacked(RL stuff came into play so i just started watching now) but Serral looks dominating again.

I think at this point it's a mix of him not playing as well and terran being bad on this patch, because other terrans seem to struggle just as much.


For pvt I understand but in zvt these results make me a bit clueless considering the creep/hydra/queen nerf... I mean for sure the situation was not very great prior to the patch but it seems like it has worsened.

I am not up to date with all the patch notes so I'm not sure why, nor have I tested the current maps (often plays a big role in TvZ balance / balance in general), but terrans got beat badlier by zergs in WCS than vs protosses iirc.
WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 01 2019 13:37 GMT
#551
On March 01 2019 22:35 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:26 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:24 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:22 kajtarp wrote:
Kinda expected Inno to go out. But i tought its because Serral, Rogue, and Solar will beat him. But didn't think he will go out so convincingly. Already 0-3 and didn't even play Serral...

I'm afraid the next big one going out is going to be soO....


soO can't go out he need to be the one breaking Serral streak in the grand final. It's the only way it can be right.

soO beat Serral 2-0 on LAN last year but no one remembers because technically it was two bo1s played after eachother -_-


Serral was defeated by soO before his streak started and he beat him 2-1 at HSC.

His offline streak (in bo3+) started when he beat Classic 3-1 in march. His 0-2 loss to classic was in april.

The casters even ignore it as they all say his last loss was 17th of march
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
March 01 2019 13:38 GMT
#552
On March 01 2019 22:36 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:34 stilt wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:31 Poopi wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

I was really looking forward for this group stages as it looked stacked(RL stuff came into play so i just started watching now) but Serral looks dominating again.

I think at this point it's a mix of him not playing as well and terran being bad on this patch, because other terrans seem to struggle just as much.


For tvp I understand but in zvt these results make me a bit clueless considering the creep/hydra/queen nerf... I mean for sure the situation was not very great prior to the patch but it seems like it has worsened.


I don't really get it either to be honest nydus is stupid but it's not what make the difference in most cases, maybe it's the maps

or terrans are just depressed from all the TvPs they play. From watching foreign terrans stream I at least get that impression this could be the case.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
March 01 2019 13:38 GMT
#553
Rail confirmed one of the very best protoss
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 01 2019 13:39 GMT
#554
On March 01 2019 22:38 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:36 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:34 stilt wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:31 Poopi wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

I was really looking forward for this group stages as it looked stacked(RL stuff came into play so i just started watching now) but Serral looks dominating again.

I think at this point it's a mix of him not playing as well and terran being bad on this patch, because other terrans seem to struggle just as much.


For tvp I understand but in zvt these results make me a bit clueless considering the creep/hydra/queen nerf... I mean for sure the situation was not very great prior to the patch but it seems like it has worsened.


I don't really get it either to be honest nydus is stupid but it's not what make the difference in most cases, maybe it's the maps

or terrans are just depressed from all the TvPs they play. From watching foreign terrans stream I at least get that impression this could be the case.


We terran are always depress tho
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44134 Posts
March 01 2019 13:39 GMT
#555
On March 01 2019 22:31 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

I was really looking forward for this group stages as it looked stacked(RL stuff came into play so i just started watching now) but Serral looks dominating again.

I think at this point it's a mix of him not playing as well and terran being bad on this patch, because other terrans seem to struggle just as much.

Ah that's too bad. Even inno who looked good recently is almost zeroed on his group which isn't what i'm expecting
this is a quote
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 01 2019 13:40 GMT
#556
On March 01 2019 22:36 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 22:34 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2019 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Wait Maru got eliminated already ? is he on a slump lately ? (just checked the groups)

He just made a lot of mistakes tbh. Don't really know if it's a slump or just a bad day/travel.

I saw his ladder games against Zest the other day and he looked absolutely insane, made protoss look completely lost in the lategame with constant multitasking. But he didn't show any of that here.


Jet lag doesnt exist, you filthy Korean elitist.

Maru constantly playing worse outside of korea for 6 years is because he's he's just a bad player

Real Maru fans are used to it tbh. I still remember him winning OSL in 2013 then losing in WCS
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
March 01 2019 13:40 GMT
#557
Has anyone gotten a drop already? They are enabled for this tourney right?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
March 01 2019 13:40 GMT
#558
I wonder how much the nydus worm threat hurts early game terran openers. Also curious how much the threat of randomly timed mutas (which were indirectly buffed through thor nerf) make the midgame harder and I wonder to what extend the ultra buff makes terrans feel like lategame is even worse than it already was.

Those changes might have an indirect effect on the balance.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 01 2019 13:40 GMT
#559
TY will 10-0 his group and make Terran appear broken, they will find a way to nerf it ( Ghost or Raven, why not ).
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
March 01 2019 13:40 GMT
#560
it's so fun watching those nydus plays. So dynamic play full of action and multi-tasking
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 116 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 305
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3386
Sea 2758
ggaemo 944
Larva 552
Barracks 227
EffOrt 122
Hyun 97
Last 79
ToSsGirL 78
sSak 29
[ Show more ]
JulyZerg 22
Movie 20
Shine 18
yabsab 14
Dota 2
XcaliburYe728
XaKoH 456
KheZu267
Fuzer 115
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K509
edward221
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King40
Westballz15
Other Games
singsing1980
DeMusliM322
mouzStarbuck165
Hui .146
rGuardiaN40
Trikslyr24
OptimusSC210
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 27
• musti20045 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt510
Upcoming Events
Online Event
32m
SC Evo League
1h 32m
Online Event
2h 32m
OSC
2h 32m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4h 32m
CSO Contender
6h 32m
[BSL 2025] Weekly
7h 32m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
23h 32m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d
SC Evo League
1d 1h
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 4h
BSL Team Wars
1d 8h
Team Dewalt vs Team Bonyth
Afreeca Starleague
1d 23h
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
2 days
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-08-13
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.