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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 01 2019 12:30 GMT
#361
On March 01 2019 21:28 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 21:26 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:24 nojok wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:22 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:21 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:20 Acrofales wrote:
Wardi is quite the Serral fanboy. But that really was a great ZvZ.

Out of foreigner casters - who isnt?

well, show me a Korean v Korean zvz where the korean zerg pulls out that. Beating the same comp, with same upgrades, with half they army supply

Tomorrow it will be one third of the army supply and upgrade deficit.

i dont get it, what are you saying?

Serral had one upgrade advantage (armor) and his army was smaller but not half the size of solar's one.

If that`s the case, i apologize, i must have missed the carapace upgrade, but you re probably right about that. Gonna edit my post.
But im fairly sure the army size was around 50%, but I will check it once the vod is out.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 01 2019 12:31 GMT
#362
I am really disappointed, I thought inno would be sharper, he looks disappointed too.

On the other hand.. I picked Serral as my number one for group... yet I am still surprised he hasn't dropped off in abilities after being on top for so long.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
March 01 2019 12:31 GMT
#363
On March 01 2019 21:28 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 21:26 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:24 nojok wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:22 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:21 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:20 Acrofales wrote:
Wardi is quite the Serral fanboy. But that really was a great ZvZ.

Out of foreigner casters - who isnt?

well, show me a Korean v Korean zvz where the korean zerg pulls out that. Beating the same comp, with same upgrades, with half they army supply

Tomorrow it will be one third of the army supply and upgrade deficit.

i dont get it, what are you saying?

Serral had one upgrade advantage (armor) and his army was smaller but not half the size of solar's one.

Pretty sure I saw Serral on unupgraded 20 supply Ling bane beating Solar's 3/3 maxed Broodlord Infestor Leviathan army
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
terribleplayer1
Profile Joined July 2018
95 Posts
March 01 2019 12:31 GMT
#364
Looking bad for T now that Inno lost to gumiho
267
Profile Joined December 2017
64 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 12:32:52
March 01 2019 12:31 GMT
#365
There are so many things Serral does right at the same time in that game.

Realizing a tumor prevents the block of the wall, killing it and dropping a major building wall, otherwise 100% dead.
Squeezing out a carapace upgrade to create an advantage meanwhile
Canceling upgrade to increase the production when realizing the timing of the push
The defensive positioning to compensate for supply disadvantage
Sacrificing overseer to delay upgrade and creates a major upgrade advantage in the final fight
Flanking with a minor army that targets fires the ravagers of Solar while micro his major army section close perfect

The guy is a freaking morphling... it is insane how he can continuously adapt so well to sudden situations even under severe pressure. Ok I am fan boy x)
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 01 2019 12:32 GMT
#366
On March 01 2019 21:31 terribleplayer1 wrote:
Looking bad for T now that Inno lost to gumiho


Yeah, Terran is pretty weak agaisnt Terran these days!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
March 01 2019 12:33 GMT
#367
On March 01 2019 21:32 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 21:31 terribleplayer1 wrote:
Looking bad for T now that Inno lost to gumiho


Yeah, Terran is pretty weak agaisnt Terran these days!

he means that terrans have a worse chance at advancing now because Gumiho has a worse shot at beating Solar/Serral than Inno
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2019 12:33 GMT
#368
On March 01 2019 21:19 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 21:13 imre wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:10 seemsgood wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:03 imre wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:01 DieuCure wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:00 imre wrote:
On March 01 2019 20:58 Jasper_Ty wrote:
Are we just casually forgetting Maru winning 3 Code S's in a row? If we're talking about dominance then what Maru did in 2018 was almost completely unheard of in the history of Starcraft 2 (if we forget about Mvp 2011-2012 for a second).


problem is that Maru lost every other tournament in the meanwhile :/ but yes 3 code S in a row is crazy and what he did to the korean scene was incredible.


And he did that while Terran was weak, even more impressive. But he stole the last map to TY


Terran wasn't weak early 2018 tbh. Late 2018 on the other hand...
Really looking forward to Serral vs Gumi & Inno, we'll know a lot more about his ZvT chances.

I think tvz s pretty figured out like tvp but its because of the current maps not by the match up itself
Terran players are giving zerg too much freedoom and zerg needs to be contained


most important thing about TvZ vs serral is that you've to be good at dealing with ling counters (and react quickly when he'll engage your main army)
bad thing is that both Inno and Maru are bad at it...

Maru is out and Inno is out of his former shape. So it doesn't matter now, Serral should win against Inno, Gumi is Gumi, so that's hard to predict, whether he fails miserably or offers a good challenge(but he's not as good as TY)


In bo3 gumi should have a slight chance imo. chaos is probably the best way to beat Serral.
Zest fanboy.
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
710 Posts
March 01 2019 12:33 GMT
#369
On March 01 2019 21:31 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 21:28 nojok wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:26 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:24 nojok wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:22 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:21 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:20 Acrofales wrote:
Wardi is quite the Serral fanboy. But that really was a great ZvZ.

Out of foreigner casters - who isnt?

well, show me a Korean v Korean zvz where the korean zerg pulls out that. Beating the same comp, with same upgrades, with half they army supply

Tomorrow it will be one third of the army supply and upgrade deficit.

i dont get it, what are you saying?

Serral had one upgrade advantage (armor) and his army was smaller but not half the size of solar's one.

Pretty sure I saw Serral on unupgraded 20 supply Ling bane beating Solar's 3/3 maxed Broodlord Infestor Leviathan army

i think serral had just the broodlings from a killed evo which had anti-armor missile on them
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
March 01 2019 12:33 GMT
#370
On March 01 2019 21:30 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 21:28 nojok wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:26 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:24 nojok wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:22 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:21 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:20 Acrofales wrote:
Wardi is quite the Serral fanboy. But that really was a great ZvZ.

Out of foreigner casters - who isnt?

well, show me a Korean v Korean zvz where the korean zerg pulls out that. Beating the same comp, with same upgrades, with half they army supply

Tomorrow it will be one third of the army supply and upgrade deficit.

i dont get it, what are you saying?

Serral had one upgrade advantage (armor) and his army was smaller but not half the size of solar's one.

If that`s the case, i apologize, i must have missed the carapace upgrade, but you re probably right about that. Gonna edit my post.
But im fairly sure the army size was around 50%, but I will check it once the vod is out.


i want say it was 100 army supply vs 130 (solar) but impossible to know how much of that 30 differential was crossing the map. Either way solar seemed really happy to give serral a convex line after every volley of biles.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
March 01 2019 12:33 GMT
#371
On March 01 2019 21:31 267 wrote:
There are so many things Serral does right at the same time in that game.

Realizing a tumor prevents the block of the wall, killing it and dropping a major building wall, otherwise 100% dead.
Squeezing out a carapace upgrade to create an advantage meanwhile
Canceling upgrade to increase the production when realizing the timing of the push
The defensive positioning to compensate for supply disadvantage
Sacrificing overseer to delay upgrade and creates a major upgrade advantage in the final fight
Flanking with a minor army that targets fires the ravagers of Solar while micro his major army section close perfect

The guy is a freaking morphling... it is insane how he can continuously adapt so well to sudden situations even under severe pressure. Ok I am fan boy x)


I mean, you have to be able to adapt to anything in Finland. Moose with knives coming out of nowhere, saunas roaming the land, Lordi drafting you to the band. Basically, you become the perfect killer if you survive the first few years
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 01 2019 12:34 GMT
#372
On March 01 2019 21:31 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 21:28 nojok wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:26 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:24 nojok wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:22 Geo.Rion wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:21 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:20 Acrofales wrote:
Wardi is quite the Serral fanboy. But that really was a great ZvZ.

Out of foreigner casters - who isnt?

well, show me a Korean v Korean zvz where the korean zerg pulls out that. Beating the same comp, with same upgrades, with half they army supply

Tomorrow it will be one third of the army supply and upgrade deficit.

i dont get it, what are you saying?

Serral had one upgrade advantage (armor) and his army was smaller but not half the size of solar's one.

Pretty sure I saw Serral on unupgraded 20 supply Ling bane beating Solar's 3/3 maxed Broodlord Infestor Leviathan army


Pretty sure you are salty for no reason this time. Serral didn't have 20 lings, only the starting drones.
And I officially sued Smix, who I found out is lurking under the alternate ID called "Rodya" here on TL.
herwo
Profile Joined January 2019
199 Posts
March 01 2019 12:35 GMT
#373
On March 01 2019 21:31 267 wrote:
There are so many things Serral does right at the same time in that game.

Realizing a tumor prevents the block of the wall, killing it and dropping a major building wall, otherwise 100% dead.
Squeezing out a carapace upgrade to create an advantage meanwhile
Canceling upgrade to increase the production when realizing the timing of the push
The defensive positioning to compensate for supply disadvantage
Sacrificing overseer to delay upgrade and creates a major upgrade advantage in the final fight
Flanking with a minor army that targets fires the ravagers of Solar while micro his major army section close perfect

The guy is a freaking morphling... it is insane how he can continuously adapt so well to sudden situations even under severe pressure. Ok I am fan boy x)


have no doubt, people in these threads will never see any of this. they'll think it's a BO win and then open liquipedia and aligulac to namedrop some irrelevant stats
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 01 2019 12:35 GMT
#374
On March 01 2019 21:33 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 21:32 opisska wrote:
On March 01 2019 21:31 terribleplayer1 wrote:
Looking bad for T now that Inno lost to gumiho


Yeah, Terran is pretty weak agaisnt Terran these days!

he means that terrans have a worse chance at advancing now because Gumiho has a worse shot at beating Solar/Serral than Inno


I dont think so, INno just doesnt look as good as expected.
TL+ Member
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
March 01 2019 12:35 GMT
#375
Why don't we get to see this famous Serral moment?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
March 01 2019 12:36 GMT
#376
Ah. Here we go.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 01 2019 12:36 GMT
#377
On March 01 2019 21:31 267 wrote:
There are so many things Serral does right at the same time in that game.

Realizing a tumor prevents the block of the wall, killing it and dropping a major building wall, otherwise 100% dead.
Squeezing out a carapace upgrade to create an advantage meanwhile
Canceling upgrade to increase the production when realizing the timing of the push
The defensive positioning to compensate for supply disadvantage
Sacrificing overseer to delay upgrade and creates a major upgrade advantage in the final fight
Flanking with a minor army that targets fires the ravagers of Solar while micro his major army section close perfect

The guy is a freaking morphling... it is insane how he can continuously adapt so well to sudden situations even under severe pressure. Ok I am fan boy x)
Nice summary. Serral is indeed something else.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 01 2019 12:39 GMT
#378
Rotterdam explaining that engagement perfectly
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
March 01 2019 12:40 GMT
#379
...I don't understand
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 01 2019 12:40 GMT
#380
Solar throwing hard here, a fight on the 3rd was game over for Serral :/
Zest fanboy.
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