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On November 04 2018 07:43 HolydaKing wrote:
Go Serral, if Rogue wins this one I'll be so damn scared. D:
haha exactly my thoughts
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France12908 Posts
On November 04 2018 07:42 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:37 Poopi wrote:On November 04 2018 07:34 SSNYC77 wrote:On November 04 2018 07:10 Charoisaur wrote:On November 04 2018 07:07 deacon.frost wrote:On November 04 2018 07:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 04 2018 07:00 Dave4 wrote:
What's your views!?
well if Serral wins blizzcon and you say he's not a bonjwa then I really wonder who you're going to call bonjwa Can we call somebody who has so few matches vs the best a true Bonjwa? Really? Is this a trolling post I didn't recognize or what? Flash did his status by playing the best most of the time. Most of the time Serral is playing other foreigners who don't have a chance vs all the non bonjwa Koreans. This would be a true disrespect to the BW scene, to Maru and in the end even to Serral. Out of 8 best foreigners 2 advanced from groups and only 1 passed RO8, but hey, dominating them gives you the banjo status, we need to open WCS to Koreans to get their banjo statuses. yeah this "bonjwa" talk is why his fans are so goddamn annoying and I hope he loses. Rogue won 3 tournaments in a row and nobody considered him close to a bonjwa. Now Serral may win 2 real tournaments in a row and people are using the b-word??? Serral since Leipzig: 80% overall, 83% vs non koreans, 67% vs koreans. Rogue from Super tournament to World Championship: 61% overall, 72% vs non koreans, 58% vs koreans Rogue was nowhere near as impressive as Serral during his winstreak. For reference Maru since wesg: 64% overall, 86% vs nonkoreans. 58% vs koreans, On what sample size? he just made those stats up - Maru is 64 % in games and 80 % in matches vs koreans since WESG http://aligulac.com/players/49/results/?after=2018-03-18&before=2019-01-01&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
Lol that's scam statistics then
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On November 04 2018 07:43 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:42 nojok wrote:On November 04 2018 07:41 Zealously wrote:On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off  Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!! cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft. Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map. But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings... It's not that Serral isn't really good at ling-bane micro and small-scale engagements, it's that it's ridiculous and a little disrespectful to a half-dozen (+) other players to say he's somehow above and beyond anything ever seen in the history of Starcraft lol #justiceforFruitdealer lmao fruitdealer, I think Life would be better than Serral if he kept playing btw
Life never had the heart to grind the game like Serral did for last 2 years straight, so he would probably keep being Life with ultra high highs and Code B lows.
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ahhh... mirror builds
That nice feeling from PvP
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On November 04 2018 07:39 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:38 StasisField wrote:On November 04 2018 07:36 Shathe wrote:
100k watching a ZvZ xD That's how good Serral is. His mere presence alone makes ZvZ a watchable MU Even when every match he played was ZvZ during WCS Montreal, I still watched the shit out of them, his play is enchanting.
Agreed, and ZvZ is my least favorite MU to watch
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 04 2018 07:43 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:41 deacon.frost wrote:On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!! cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft. Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map. But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings... From the thread I understand that Rogue defended with a big micro some all-in with a single queen. was this overhyped the same way? I bet it wasnt  Lol Deacon, you're here, not watching the games, and rooting against Serral? Are you literally here for the sheer sake of complaining? I genuinely do not understand what you're getting out of being here. I just find it pretty funny.
To get the results?
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On November 04 2018 07:41 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!! cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft. Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map. But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings... It's not that Serral isn't really good at ling-bane micro and small-scale engagements, it's that it's ridiculous and a little disrespectful to a half-dozen (+) other players to say he's somehow above and beyond anything ever seen in the history of Starcraft lol
Name a Zerg who is so good at multiprongs and backstabs while being the best macro Zerg at the same time.
Life was as good at the counteragression as Serral but he never was as solid overall.
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On November 04 2018 07:43 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:41 Steroidbrucie wrote:
has anyone ever seen a more dominant and ruthless player like serral? Mvp, innovation, Life, Zest on a arguably better field I would say.
I'll agree with this. Serral is epic, but he hasn't earned his stripes to the same degree those guys have (the first three especially).
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On November 04 2018 07:41 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:40 OhThatDang wrote:
I may be in the minority here, but it feels bad when they're just praising Serrals hold of that last game and didn't give Rogue too much credit in game two when he held off a similar build :O Everyone praised ling bane wars, not actual hold.
French stream praised ROgue's hold in g2, even if they are for serral obviously
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 04 2018 07:43 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:41 stilt wrote:On November 04 2018 07:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 04 2018 07:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off Write an article about it. Artosis will probably call you a piece of shit but it's worth it I think Blizzard will issue a statement that Life's great ling/bane plays have been vacated. I thought they had forgot his name... They certainly didn't hang his poster with the other blizzcon winners
Technically they took it down
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Rogue excels towards the end of a series so he still has a chance.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 04 2018 07:42 SSNYC77 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:37 deacon.frost wrote:On November 04 2018 07:34 SSNYC77 wrote:On November 04 2018 07:10 Charoisaur wrote:On November 04 2018 07:07 deacon.frost wrote:On November 04 2018 07:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 04 2018 07:00 Dave4 wrote:
What's your views!?
well if Serral wins blizzcon and you say he's not a bonjwa then I really wonder who you're going to call bonjwa Can we call somebody who has so few matches vs the best a true Bonjwa? Really? Is this a trolling post I didn't recognize or what? Flash did his status by playing the best most of the time. Most of the time Serral is playing other foreigners who don't have a chance vs all the non bonjwa Koreans. This would be a true disrespect to the BW scene, to Maru and in the end even to Serral. Out of 8 best foreigners 2 advanced from groups and only 1 passed RO8, but hey, dominating them gives you the banjo status, we need to open WCS to Koreans to get their banjo statuses. yeah this "bonjwa" talk is why his fans are so goddamn annoying and I hope he loses. Rogue won 3 tournaments in a row and nobody considered him close to a bonjwa. Now Serral may win 2 real tournaments in a row and people are using the b-word??? Serral since Leipzig: 80% overall, 83% vs non koreans, 67% vs koreans. Rogue from Super tournament to World Championship: 61% overall, 72% vs non koreans, 58% vs koreans Rogue was nowhere near as impressive as Serral during his winstreak. For reference Maru since wesg: 64% overall, 86% vs nonkoreans. 58% vs koreans, Yeah but Maru plays way more against Koreans who are better so even with his domination he will lose here and there becuase of this  That's issue of Serral not playing in Korea. There is no issue with Serral not playing in korea. He still faces off against koreans on the biggest stages, say Olympics of SC2, and performs. But regardless i was addressing the Serral to Rogue comparison, not Maru.
The point is that the more you play the best players the more you lose. Which means this comparison is pretty unfair against Maru
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On November 04 2018 07:41 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!! cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft. Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map. But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings... It's not that Serral isn't really good at ling-bane micro and small-scale engagements, it's that it's ridiculous and a little disrespectful to a half-dozen (+) other players to say he's somehow above and beyond anything ever seen in the history of Starcraft lol
Some words in starcraft just have different meanings compared to the real world
foreigner means 'everyone not from korea'
and ever means 'within the last two weeks'
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On November 04 2018 07:41 papaz wrote:Why? He is steamrolling the rest of the WCS, taking the money like taking candy from a kid. Go to GSL and he won’t nearly have the same chances. He is perfectly taking advantage of region lock crushing non Koreans left and right getting that sweet money.
If guys like Reynor or Neeb make the Ro8 of GSL, why wouldn't Serral have some serious chances to win ?
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tbh savOir match fixed better than Life
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On November 04 2018 07:44 Mun_Su wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:41 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 04 2018 07:40 OhThatDang wrote:
I may be in the minority here, but it feels bad when they're just praising Serrals hold of that last game and didn't give Rogue too much credit in game two when he held off a similar build :O Everyone praised ling bane wars, not actual hold. French stream praised ROgue's hold in g2, even if they are for serral obviously
Rogue's hold in g2 was the only notable thing in g2, anyway. Rest of it was basically concluded from that point because neither side would screw it up in big way.
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On November 04 2018 07:43 Yonnua wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:41 Zealously wrote:On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!! cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft. Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map. But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings... It's not that Serral isn't really good at ling-bane micro and small-scale engagements, it's that it's ridiculous and a little disrespectful to a half-dozen (+) other players to say he's somehow above and beyond anything ever seen in the history of Starcraft lol This is the weird thing about Serral- whereas almost every big name zerg has brought some new innovation to the race, Serral hasn't really- he just executes every skill that already exists very well. It's weirdly anachronistic and different.
He's certainly contributed to the existing European ZvZ burrow-roach harass meta, but yeah by and large he hasn't been an innovator. Though I don't feel like every other top zerg brought innovations historically.
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On November 04 2018 07:43 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2018 07:42 nojok wrote:On November 04 2018 07:41 Zealously wrote:On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!! cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft. Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map. But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings... It's not that Serral isn't really good at ling-bane micro and small-scale engagements, it's that it's ridiculous and a little disrespectful to a half-dozen (+) other players to say he's somehow above and beyond anything ever seen in the history of Starcraft lol #justiceforFruitdealer lmao fruitdealer, I think Life would be better than Serral if he kept playing btw
I am pretty sure that's not a uncommon view, still serral is amazing !
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On November 04 2018 07:42 Jarree wrote:
I haven't played the game in years, I watched some series yesterday and the games were really bad, like 100% of terran games were bad with some kind of proxy. But I have to say this looks pretty awesome.
I don't think proxies have to be bad.
There are lots of reaper proxies, or proxies that just give a bit more pressure instead of being like the biggest commitment ever, I don't see how that has to be bad when we can still transition to standard macro games after...
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