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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15962 Posts
November 03 2018 22:42 GMT
#801
On November 04 2018 07:37 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:34 SSNYC77 wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:07 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:00 Dave4 wrote:
What's your views!?


well if Serral wins blizzcon and you say he's not a bonjwa then I really wonder who you're going to call bonjwa

Can we call somebody who has so few matches vs the best a true Bonjwa? Really? Is this a trolling post I didn't recognize or what? Flash did his status by playing the best most of the time. Most of the time Serral is playing other foreigners who don't have a chance vs all the non bonjwa Koreans. This would be a true disrespect to the BW scene, to Maru and in the end even to Serral. Out of 8 best foreigners 2 advanced from groups and only 1 passed RO8, but hey, dominating them gives you the banjo status, we need to open WCS to Koreans to get their banjo statuses.

yeah this "bonjwa" talk is why his fans are so goddamn annoying and I hope he loses.
Rogue won 3 tournaments in a row and nobody considered him close to a bonjwa. Now Serral may win 2 real tournaments in a row and people are using the b-word???


Serral since Leipzig: 80% overall, 83% vs non koreans, 67% vs koreans.

Rogue from Super tournament to World Championship: 61% overall, 72% vs non koreans, 58% vs koreans

Rogue was nowhere near as impressive as Serral during his winstreak.

For reference Maru since wesg: 64% overall, 86% vs nonkoreans. 58% vs koreans,

On what sample size?

he just made those stats up - Maru is 64 % in games and 80 % in matches vs koreans since WESG
http://aligulac.com/players/49/results/?after=2018-03-18&before=2019-01-01&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
SSNYC77
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
43 Posts
November 03 2018 22:42 GMT
#802
On November 04 2018 07:37 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:34 SSNYC77 wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:07 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:00 Dave4 wrote:
What's your views!?


well if Serral wins blizzcon and you say he's not a bonjwa then I really wonder who you're going to call bonjwa

Can we call somebody who has so few matches vs the best a true Bonjwa? Really? Is this a trolling post I didn't recognize or what? Flash did his status by playing the best most of the time. Most of the time Serral is playing other foreigners who don't have a chance vs all the non bonjwa Koreans. This would be a true disrespect to the BW scene, to Maru and in the end even to Serral. Out of 8 best foreigners 2 advanced from groups and only 1 passed RO8, but hey, dominating them gives you the banjo status, we need to open WCS to Koreans to get their banjo statuses.

yeah this "bonjwa" talk is why his fans are so goddamn annoying and I hope he loses.
Rogue won 3 tournaments in a row and nobody considered him close to a bonjwa. Now Serral may win 2 real tournaments in a row and people are using the b-word???


Serral since Leipzig: 80% overall, 83% vs non koreans, 67% vs koreans.

Rogue from Super tournament to World Championship: 61% overall, 72% vs non koreans, 58% vs koreans

Rogue was nowhere near as impressive as Serral during his winstreak.

For reference Maru since wesg: 64% overall, 86% vs nonkoreans. 58% vs koreans,

Yeah but Maru plays way more against Koreans who are better so even with his domination he will lose here and there becuase of this That's issue of Serral not playing in Korea.

There is no issue with Serral not playing in korea. He still faces off against koreans on the biggest stages, say Olympics of SC2, and performs. But regardless i was addressing the Serral to Rogue comparison, not Maru.
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
November 03 2018 22:42 GMT
#803
i want a game 5
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
November 03 2018 22:42 GMT
#804
On November 04 2018 07:41 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:
Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off

Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!!


cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft.

Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map.

But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings...

From the thread I understand that Rogue defended with a big micro some all-in with a single queen. was this overhyped the same way? I bet it wasnt



He is the reigning world champ so...
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
November 03 2018 22:42 GMT
#805
On November 04 2018 07:39 Kalera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:39 Paljas wrote:
Why cant we watch a single bo5 without a fucking break in between?


Players need a break too.

they actually dont, but if its due to the players, I would understand
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 03 2018 22:42 GMT
#806
On November 04 2018 07:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:
Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off

Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!!


cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft.

Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map.

But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings...


It's not that Serral isn't really good at ling-bane micro and small-scale engagements, it's that it's ridiculous and a little disrespectful to a half-dozen (+) other players to say he's somehow above and beyond anything ever seen in the history of Starcraft lol

#justiceforFruitdealer
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
November 03 2018 22:42 GMT
#807
I haven't played the game in years, I watched some series yesterday and the games were really bad, like 100% of terran games were bad with some kind of proxy. But I have to say this looks pretty awesome.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
November 03 2018 22:42 GMT
#808
On November 04 2018 07:42 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:39 Kalera wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:39 Paljas wrote:
Why cant we watch a single bo5 without a fucking break in between?


Players need a break too.

they actually dont, but if its due to the players, I would understand


Dang how do you operate three bodies at once
droppanda
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia176 Posts
November 03 2018 22:42 GMT
#809
I’m gonna have a heart attack
SSNYC77
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
43 Posts
November 03 2018 22:42 GMT
#810
On November 04 2018 07:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:37 Poopi wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:34 SSNYC77 wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:07 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:00 Dave4 wrote:
What's your views!?


well if Serral wins blizzcon and you say he's not a bonjwa then I really wonder who you're going to call bonjwa

Can we call somebody who has so few matches vs the best a true Bonjwa? Really? Is this a trolling post I didn't recognize or what? Flash did his status by playing the best most of the time. Most of the time Serral is playing other foreigners who don't have a chance vs all the non bonjwa Koreans. This would be a true disrespect to the BW scene, to Maru and in the end even to Serral. Out of 8 best foreigners 2 advanced from groups and only 1 passed RO8, but hey, dominating them gives you the banjo status, we need to open WCS to Koreans to get their banjo statuses.

yeah this "bonjwa" talk is why his fans are so goddamn annoying and I hope he loses.
Rogue won 3 tournaments in a row and nobody considered him close to a bonjwa. Now Serral may win 2 real tournaments in a row and people are using the b-word???


Serral since Leipzig: 80% overall, 83% vs non koreans, 67% vs koreans.

Rogue from Super tournament to World Championship: 61% overall, 72% vs non koreans, 58% vs koreans

Rogue was nowhere near as impressive as Serral during his winstreak.

For reference Maru since wesg: 64% overall, 86% vs nonkoreans. 58% vs koreans,

On what sample size?

he just made those stats up - Maru is 64 % in games and 80 % in matches vs koreans since WESG
http://aligulac.com/players/49/results/?after=2018-03-18&before=2019-01-01&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=


My bad, i put in 2017 not 2018
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 03 2018 22:43 GMT
#811
Go Serral, if Rogue wins this one I'll be so damn scared. D:
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
November 03 2018 22:43 GMT
#812
On November 04 2018 07:42 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:41 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:
Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off

Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!!


cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft.

Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map.

But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings...


It's not that Serral isn't really good at ling-bane micro and small-scale engagements, it's that it's ridiculous and a little disrespectful to a half-dozen (+) other players to say he's somehow above and beyond anything ever seen in the history of Starcraft lol

#justiceforFruitdealer

lmao fruitdealer, I think Life would be better than Serral if he kept playing btw
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 03 2018 22:43 GMT
#813
On November 04 2018 07:41 RealityTheGreat wrote:
Chinese fans are input infi
Infi GG quickly on Master Collesions
Infi GG'd almost before the game started though.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
November 03 2018 22:43 GMT
#814
On November 04 2018 07:41 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:
Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off

Write an article about it. Artosis will probably call you a piece of shit but it's worth it I think


Blizzard will issue a statement that Life's great ling/bane plays have been vacated.


I thought they had forgot his name...

They certainly didn't hang his poster with the other blizzcon winners
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 22:43:24
November 03 2018 22:43 GMT
#815
On November 04 2018 07:41 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:
Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off

Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!!


cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft.

Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map.

But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings...

From the thread I understand that Rogue defended with a big micro some all-in with a single queen. was this overhyped the same way? I bet it wasnt


Lol Deacon, you're here, not watching the games, and rooting against Serral? Are you literally here for the sheer sake of complaining? I genuinely do not understand what you're getting out of being here. I just find it pretty funny.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
November 03 2018 22:43 GMT
#816
On November 04 2018 07:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:
Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off

Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!!


cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft.

Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map.

But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings...


It's not that Serral isn't really good at ling-bane micro and small-scale engagements, it's that it's ridiculous and a little disrespectful to a half-dozen (+) other players to say he's somehow above and beyond anything ever seen in the history of Starcraft lol

This is the weird thing about Serral- whereas almost every big name zerg has brought some new innovation to the race, Serral hasn't really- he just executes every skill that already exists very well. It's weirdly anachronistic and different.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
November 03 2018 22:43 GMT
#817
On November 04 2018 07:41 Steroidbrucie wrote:
has anyone ever seen a more dominant and ruthless player like serral?


Mvp, innovation, Life, Zest on a arguably better field I would say.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
November 03 2018 22:43 GMT
#818
On November 04 2018 07:43 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:42 nojok wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:41 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:
Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off

Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!!


cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft.

Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map.

But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings...


It's not that Serral isn't really good at ling-bane micro and small-scale engagements, it's that it's ridiculous and a little disrespectful to a half-dozen (+) other players to say he's somehow above and beyond anything ever seen in the history of Starcraft lol

#justiceforFruitdealer

lmao fruitdealer, I think Life would be better than Serral if he kept playing btw


Honestly I think Life would've cured cancer
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
November 03 2018 22:43 GMT
#819
I feel like Pig was having a brain fart there. and. talking. like. this. for a sec glad he found his rhythm again! :D
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
November 03 2018 22:43 GMT
#820
On November 04 2018 07:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 07:39 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:36 DBooN wrote:
On November 04 2018 07:35 Zealously wrote:
Serral is cool and really good but "We've never seen anything like this" about Zerg micro/defense pisses me off

Have you ever seen someone defend against Zerglings while having more Zerglings himself?! He must have a third hand!!


cmon guys if you can't see why and how this kind of multitask is impressive I dont know if you even like starcraft.

Serral comes out ahead out of every freaking ling bane war while macroing more cleanly than his opponents. He still the awareness to set up single baneling traps in commonly used paths of the map.

But yeah, he is just defending lings with more lings...


It's not that Serral isn't really good at ling-bane micro and small-scale engagements, it's that it's ridiculous and a little disrespectful to a half-dozen (+) other players to say he's somehow above and beyond anything ever seen in the history of Starcraft lol


"BUT WE DON'T DO THAAAAAAAT blabla"

Serral is a god though
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
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