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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 17 2018 08:27 GMT
#481
Good to turn in and see that Neeb and Scarlett got rekt.

Maru vs Dark final, HYPE
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
March 17 2018 08:28 GMT
#482
On March 17 2018 17:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:23 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:17 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:13 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:11 theunabletable wrote:
As someone who hasn't played for a year or two and isn't aware of the meta, why are seeker missiles seemingly instant now?

Not a balance whine, but what do zergs do for AA now, with terran air seemingly stronger, and infestors and vipers weaker? I don't really understand how it works.

You need to kill the terran before it happens, apparently.

unacceptable, it should be the other way again

What comp did Zerg have after burrow fungal and 8 armor ultras were nerfed that was really that way?

Broodlord Infestor Viper

That was never unstoppable? And really, with all the changes to the viper and infestor, I haven't seen that comp be unstoppable in a long time

Vipers are still kinda bullshit with 120 damage parasitic bomb.


They also don't stack and deal that damage over like 10 seconds. If they were the original design where they stacked and dealt fast damage I'd agree. That was pretty bullshit, but that's exactly what Terran has right now which is why the current raven needs some sort of nerf to the missile. Maybe a damage nerf or an energy cost increase or something. Even a delay increase would be fine so it works like a specialized seeker missile
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 17 2018 08:29 GMT
#483
Nice, another raven map
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
March 17 2018 08:29 GMT
#484
Maru looks weird now that he almost looks like an adult
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 08:29 GMT
#485
On March 17 2018 17:28 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:23 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:17 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:13 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:11 theunabletable wrote:
As someone who hasn't played for a year or two and isn't aware of the meta, why are seeker missiles seemingly instant now?

Not a balance whine, but what do zergs do for AA now, with terran air seemingly stronger, and infestors and vipers weaker? I don't really understand how it works.

You need to kill the terran before it happens, apparently.

unacceptable, it should be the other way again

What comp did Zerg have after burrow fungal and 8 armor ultras were nerfed that was really that way?

Broodlord Infestor Viper

That was never unstoppable? And really, with all the changes to the viper and infestor, I haven't seen that comp be unstoppable in a long time

Vipers are still kinda bullshit with 120 damage parasitic bomb.


They also don't stack and deal that damage over like 10 seconds. If they were the original design where they stacked and dealt fast damage I'd agree. That was pretty bullshit, but that's exactly what Terran has right now which is why the current raven needs some sort of nerf to the missile. Maybe a damage nerf or an energy cost increase or something. Even a delay increase would be fine so it works like a specialized seeker missile


Who needs stacking when they nearly one shot the vikings anyways.
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
March 17 2018 08:30 GMT
#486
On March 17 2018 17:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Proxy rax to end it now

proxy at home
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 08:31:46
March 17 2018 08:31 GMT
#487
On March 17 2018 17:28 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:23 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:17 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:13 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:11 theunabletable wrote:
As someone who hasn't played for a year or two and isn't aware of the meta, why are seeker missiles seemingly instant now?

Not a balance whine, but what do zergs do for AA now, with terran air seemingly stronger, and infestors and vipers weaker? I don't really understand how it works.

You need to kill the terran before it happens, apparently.

unacceptable, it should be the other way again

What comp did Zerg have after burrow fungal and 8 armor ultras were nerfed that was really that way?

Broodlord Infestor Viper

That was never unstoppable? And really, with all the changes to the viper and infestor, I haven't seen that comp be unstoppable in a long time

Vipers are still kinda bullshit with 120 damage parasitic bomb.


They also don't stack and deal that damage over like 10 seconds. If they were the original design where they stacked and dealt fast damage I'd agree. That was pretty bullshit, but that's exactly what Terran has right now which is why the current raven needs some sort of nerf to the missile. Maybe a damage nerf or an energy cost increase or something. Even a delay increase would be fine so it works like a specialized seeker missile

Without AAM as a counterweight, Vipers are complete bullshit since they demolish Vikings

Ravens though are the counter-bullshit on the Terran side. In an ideal world both would be nerfed heavily
Denominator of the Universe
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 17 2018 08:31 GMT
#488
God forbid terran has a lategame option in 2 ou of seven maps.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
March 17 2018 08:32 GMT
#489
On March 17 2018 17:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:28 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:23 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:17 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:13 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:11 theunabletable wrote:
As someone who hasn't played for a year or two and isn't aware of the meta, why are seeker missiles seemingly instant now?

Not a balance whine, but what do zergs do for AA now, with terran air seemingly stronger, and infestors and vipers weaker? I don't really understand how it works.

You need to kill the terran before it happens, apparently.

unacceptable, it should be the other way again

What comp did Zerg have after burrow fungal and 8 armor ultras were nerfed that was really that way?

Broodlord Infestor Viper

That was never unstoppable? And really, with all the changes to the viper and infestor, I haven't seen that comp be unstoppable in a long time

Vipers are still kinda bullshit with 120 damage parasitic bomb.


They also don't stack and deal that damage over like 10 seconds. If they were the original design where they stacked and dealt fast damage I'd agree. That was pretty bullshit, but that's exactly what Terran has right now which is why the current raven needs some sort of nerf to the missile. Maybe a damage nerf or an energy cost increase or something. Even a delay increase would be fine so it works like a specialized seeker missile


Who needs stacking when they nearly one shot the vikings anyways.


Again. Over like 10 seconds. That ability is also expensive and the Vikings can be repaired since as you said, it only nearly one shots
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 17 2018 08:32 GMT
#490
I had no idea that there was a reaper path at the 3rd.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 08:33:47
March 17 2018 08:33 GMT
#491
On March 17 2018 17:32 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:28 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:23 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:17 Parrek wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:13 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:11 theunabletable wrote:
As someone who hasn't played for a year or two and isn't aware of the meta, why are seeker missiles seemingly instant now?

Not a balance whine, but what do zergs do for AA now, with terran air seemingly stronger, and infestors and vipers weaker? I don't really understand how it works.

You need to kill the terran before it happens, apparently.

unacceptable, it should be the other way again

What comp did Zerg have after burrow fungal and 8 armor ultras were nerfed that was really that way?

Broodlord Infestor Viper

That was never unstoppable? And really, with all the changes to the viper and infestor, I haven't seen that comp be unstoppable in a long time

Vipers are still kinda bullshit with 120 damage parasitic bomb.


They also don't stack and deal that damage over like 10 seconds. If they were the original design where they stacked and dealt fast damage I'd agree. That was pretty bullshit, but that's exactly what Terran has right now which is why the current raven needs some sort of nerf to the missile. Maybe a damage nerf or an energy cost increase or something. Even a delay increase would be fine so it works like a specialized seeker missile


Who needs stacking when they nearly one shot the vikings anyways.


Again. Over like 10 seconds. That ability is also expensive and the Vikings can be repaired since as you said, it only nearly one shots

5 health means anything else oneshots them and good luck beating BLs without AA. Pulling them back to repair removes them from the battle, and good luck beating BLs without AA

PB is bullshit, just because AAm is also bullshit doesn't excuse PB
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 08:33 GMT
#492
On March 17 2018 17:32 Ej_ wrote:
I had no idea that there was a reaper path at the 3rd.


Didn't they add it recently? Along with making Abiogenesis really ugly, and doubling the LOS blockers at the third on Blackpink.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 17 2018 08:34 GMT
#493
On March 17 2018 17:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:32 Ej_ wrote:
I had no idea that there was a reaper path at the 3rd.


Didn't they add it recently? Along with making Abiogenesis really ugly, and doubling the LOS blockers at the third on Blackpink.

Well I vetoed Abiogenesis after yet another immortal PvZ so I can't speak about that.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
March 17 2018 08:34 GMT
#494
And to think Maru used to be one of the cheesiest players on the scene back before he won that OSL in 2013... Amazing play :o
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 17 2018 08:34 GMT
#495
On March 17 2018 17:29 Ej_ wrote:
Nice, another raven map



Without raven Serral wouldn't have lose 12 drones in early game
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 17 2018 08:34 GMT
#496
The gap is so wide open it's kind of embarrassing for all involved right now
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 08:35:04
March 17 2018 08:34 GMT
#497
On March 17 2018 17:34 Ziggy wrote:
And to think Maru used to be one of the cheesiest players on the scene back before he won that OSL in 2013... Amazing play :o

He's all grown up now, and so is his playstyle
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
March 17 2018 08:34 GMT
#498
On March 17 2018 17:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:32 Ej_ wrote:
I had no idea that there was a reaper path at the 3rd.


Didn't they add it recently? Along with making Abiogenesis really ugly, and doubling the LOS blockers at the third on Blackpink.

Fun fact : they made Abiogenesis ugly because apparently, you could see a swastika before.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 08:35 GMT
#499
On March 17 2018 17:34 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:32 Ej_ wrote:
I had no idea that there was a reaper path at the 3rd.


Didn't they add it recently? Along with making Abiogenesis really ugly, and doubling the LOS blockers at the third on Blackpink.

Well I vetoed Abiogenesis after yet another immortal PvZ so I can't speak about that.


Protoss can survive long enough to get an immortal on Abiogenesis?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 17 2018 08:35 GMT
#500
4 bases off 1 banshee and 1 tank

What a great map.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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